they've got the boomer mindset on steroids and don't understand that all men have sex drives.
We got along without porn for 6000 years of human history, much of which was far more productive than the present, so nice try.
Don't come at me with "cave paintings" and "fertility sculptures" either unless you think ancient Greeks were jacking it to prints of the statue of Venus.
That's just ignorant as fuck, they may not have had 'porn' back in the day as we know it but come on, go research some history. They had brothels and dancing girls or they bought slaves. Do I need to go into how the romans organised the rape of women or Genghis Khan raped a shit ton of women to the point lots can trace their ancestry back to him to some degree?
Why are you bringing up things that are not porn in a discussion about porn?
Btw: we still have all of those things today. Prostitutes are basically slaves.
Nah, come on, you guys aren't that dumb, don't seriously tell me you believe this shit about ancient cultures being pure.
Lol. Ancient men actually had regular sex, much of it in formal relationships. That's the point. This is why the Bible instructs married men and women not to "refuse each other's needs."
They did and they didn't, this is why again, are you seriously going to tell me that men who weren't getting sex in a regular relationship wouldn't just go and get it through payment or some other means?
A lot of men did. Still better for society than porn.
I bring this all up because porn is simply an evolution of how men are dealing with their sex drives.
Bullshit. Porn is a Jewish tool to destabilize society, and it works, just like psychoanalysis, anthropology, and communism. There is nothing evolved or natural about a modern product that has existed for less than a hundred years.
No one's praising it or anything this is just reality. I feel like this reeks of the kind of bullshit I saw being posted around on social media with people going "Look at how much better life was in the 60's" and then they were frequently posting up obvious marketing propaganda from an air travel company and it was clearly a middle/upper class families' living standards being shown.
Guess what? Cultural products like those marketing ads have some truth to them. Americans were flat out better off in the 60s. You could have the house and picket fence and nuclear family on a single income salary at the factory. Goods cost less in real dollars and your paycheck went longer.
What you're reciting now through other means is the basic leftist mantra that human beings were always just as crooked, greedy, deceptive, and debased as they are today, it was just hidden more effectively in the past. This is not true. The existence of vice in the past does not erase the vastly better rates of dual-parent heterosexual parenting, for example. At the same time, certain phenomena like the lead poisoning crime wave and the iron grip of unions did create worse conditions than today. But it is simply intellectually lazy to comfort yourself that your particular failings are no more or less harmful than those of your ancestors.
Do I really have to go through all of the history of famous men and nobles who regularly banged mistresses and prostitutes when they couldn't get any from their wives?
No one is talking about famous men and nobles, though, we're talking about normal dudes.
I'm not going to get into the specifics of why porn is bad, but it is being exacerbated by the completely imploding dating market, and these stats here indicate why the porn epidemic is as bad as it is:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jn5EwrO9hZY
If normal men can't get with women (something they used to be able to do just fine without porn), all they have is porn, and whether AI or not, porn is being used as a leverage to substitute meaningful relationships.
The short gist of it is all porn is bad -- real or CGI, because of how it completely distorts the sex drive, along with the neurological reactions to intimacy.
Are you seriously comparing historical sexual vices to the smart phone? A machine that fits in the pocket of every 13 year old and can show him the entirety of human sexual experience, including the most deprived and degenerate behavior imaginable, at the push of a button, for free, endlessly, is a completely unprecedented force in human history. Saying “it’s always been this way” is monumentally retarded.
you don't get it, 30000 years ago people were just as into tentacle monster zombie insects from hell egg-raping the decapitated heads of underage japanese children we HAVE to give this to our children it's just human nature!!!!!!!!!
We got along without porn for 6000 years of human history, much of which was far more productive than the present, so nice try.
Don't come at me with "cave paintings" and "fertility sculptures" either unless you think ancient Greeks were jacking it to prints of the statue of Venus.
Why are you bringing up things that are not porn in a discussion about porn?
Btw: we still have all of those things today. Prostitutes are basically slaves.
Lol. Ancient men actually had regular sex, much of it in formal relationships. That's the point. This is why the Bible instructs married men and women not to "refuse each other's needs."
Porn and masturbation is not the same as sex with another human.
A lot of men did. Still better for society than porn.
Bullshit. Porn is a Jewish tool to destabilize society, and it works, just like psychoanalysis, anthropology, and communism. There is nothing evolved or natural about a modern product that has existed for less than a hundred years.
Guess what? Cultural products like those marketing ads have some truth to them. Americans were flat out better off in the 60s. You could have the house and picket fence and nuclear family on a single income salary at the factory. Goods cost less in real dollars and your paycheck went longer.
What you're reciting now through other means is the basic leftist mantra that human beings were always just as crooked, greedy, deceptive, and debased as they are today, it was just hidden more effectively in the past. This is not true. The existence of vice in the past does not erase the vastly better rates of dual-parent heterosexual parenting, for example. At the same time, certain phenomena like the lead poisoning crime wave and the iron grip of unions did create worse conditions than today. But it is simply intellectually lazy to comfort yourself that your particular failings are no more or less harmful than those of your ancestors.
No one is talking about famous men and nobles, though, we're talking about normal dudes.
I'm not going to get into the specifics of why porn is bad, but it is being exacerbated by the completely imploding dating market, and these stats here indicate why the porn epidemic is as bad as it is: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jn5EwrO9hZY
If normal men can't get with women (something they used to be able to do just fine without porn), all they have is porn, and whether AI or not, porn is being used as a leverage to substitute meaningful relationships.
The short gist of it is all porn is bad -- real or CGI, because of how it completely distorts the sex drive, along with the neurological reactions to intimacy.
Are you seriously comparing historical sexual vices to the smart phone? A machine that fits in the pocket of every 13 year old and can show him the entirety of human sexual experience, including the most deprived and degenerate behavior imaginable, at the push of a button, for free, endlessly, is a completely unprecedented force in human history. Saying “it’s always been this way” is monumentally retarded.
you don't get it, 30000 years ago people were just as into tentacle monster zombie insects from hell egg-raping the decapitated heads of underage japanese children we HAVE to give this to our children it's just human nature!!!!!!!!!