That's just ignorant as fuck, they may not have had 'porn' back in the day as we know it but come on, go research some history. They had brothels and dancing girls or they bought slaves. Do I need to go into how the romans organised the rape of women or Genghis Khan raped a shit ton of women to the point lots can trace their ancestry back to him to some degree?
Why are you bringing up things that are not porn in a discussion about porn?
Btw: we still have all of those things today. Prostitutes are basically slaves.
Nah, come on, you guys aren't that dumb, don't seriously tell me you believe this shit about ancient cultures being pure.
Lol. Ancient men actually had regular sex, much of it in formal relationships. That's the point. This is why the Bible instructs married men and women not to "refuse each other's needs."
Perhaps they would. But masturbating to the thought of a couple women from your village is different than jerking it to images of 100’s of different women via high speed Internet porn. Look up the Coolidge effect. What it is is that your brain gets bored with the same stimuli, in your example it’s those same village whores you've thought about a dozen times. Now with internet porn you can see hundreds of different super models in an hour and each new woman is extremely exciting to your brain. It’s the same physiological response one has to something like cocaine or sugary foods. Over time it’s addictive and can damage your brain.
Do I really have to go through all of the history of famous men and nobles who regularly banged mistresses and prostitutes when they couldn't get any from their wives?
No one is talking about famous men and nobles, though, we're talking about normal dudes.
I'm not going to get into the specifics of why porn is bad, but it is being exacerbated by the completely imploding dating market, and these stats here indicate why the porn epidemic is as bad as it is:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jn5EwrO9hZY
If normal men can't get with women (something they used to be able to do just fine without porn), all they have is porn, and whether AI or not, porn is being used as a leverage to substitute meaningful relationships.
The short gist of it is all porn is bad -- real or CGI, because of how it completely distorts the sex drive, along with the neurological reactions to intimacy.
They did and they didn't, this is why again, are you seriously going to tell me that men who weren't getting sex in a regular relationship wouldn't just go and get it through payment or some other means?
A lot of men did. Still better for society than porn.
I bring this all up because porn is simply an evolution of how men are dealing with their sex drives.
Bullshit. Porn is a Jewish tool to destabilize society, and it works, just like psychoanalysis, anthropology, and communism. There is nothing evolved or natural about a modern product that has existed for less than a hundred years.
No one's praising it or anything this is just reality. I feel like this reeks of the kind of bullshit I saw being posted around on social media with people going "Look at how much better life was in the 60's" and then they were frequently posting up obvious marketing propaganda from an air travel company and it was clearly a middle/upper class families' living standards being shown.
Guess what? Cultural products like those marketing ads have some truth to them. Americans were flat out better off in the 60s. You could have the house and picket fence and nuclear family on a single income salary at the factory. Goods cost less in real dollars and your paycheck went longer.
What you're reciting now through other means is the basic leftist mantra that human beings were always just as crooked, greedy, deceptive, and debased as they are today, it was just hidden more effectively in the past. This is not true. The existence of vice in the past does not erase the vastly better rates of dual-parent heterosexual parenting, for example. At the same time, certain phenomena like the lead poisoning crime wave and the iron grip of unions did create worse conditions than today. But it is simply intellectually lazy to comfort yourself that your particular failings are no more or less harmful than those of your ancestors.
You're actually making me the Voluntaryist argue against extreme sexual infidelity over porn. Considering that porn doesn't cause wars of succession due to monarchies and how they work then yes I would argue that sexual infidelity is far more damaging. I can also point towards far more modern examples like the epidemic of single mothers especially in black communities.
Infidelity is not the root cause of monarchic wars of succession, monarchies are. Man, what a retarded argument. Even then people were at least having children in that time period, not committing generational suicide.
Infidelity in the black community exploded since the 60s, when hardcore porn gained traction. I'm not arguing that this is anything more than a coincidence but why, exactly, did you bring this up? This is yet another example of cultural standards degrading in the last hundred years - AKA, the past was indeed better. In today's superior culture, we have furries and trannies running the country and the very fabric of reality is coming apart.
Now I know why you have the opinions that you have, you've got the Jew hate on so hardcore you'll ignore historical fact to point out how much worse everything is because Jews. Since degeneracy of ancestors can't be traced back to Judaism you ignore it as it's inconvenient, very much like the SJWs do.
Cool psychoanalysis bro. You'd fit right in with Freud, the Jewish guy that invented the idea that all men secretly want to diddle their mother.
No, I won't let you defend this, it's bullshit and ignores historical fact for the sake of winning an argument on the internet. The majority of people in that era did not live like that. Yes you can make an argument about inflation, purchasing power was a lot better than it is today, however poor families were extremely fucked during this time period compared to modern standards but that varies from family to family I can still safely make that argument.
OK, safely make the argument then. Purchasing power was better, home ownership was better, nuclear families were healthier, people were less depressed, but poor families were somehow extremely worse off than today? How?
Are you making an argument in favor of gimmedats? Was the Great Society a great idea?
Why are you bringing up things that are not porn in a discussion about porn?
Btw: we still have all of those things today. Prostitutes are basically slaves.
Lol. Ancient men actually had regular sex, much of it in formal relationships. That's the point. This is why the Bible instructs married men and women not to "refuse each other's needs."
Porn and masturbation is not the same as sex with another human.
Perhaps they would. But masturbating to the thought of a couple women from your village is different than jerking it to images of 100’s of different women via high speed Internet porn. Look up the Coolidge effect. What it is is that your brain gets bored with the same stimuli, in your example it’s those same village whores you've thought about a dozen times. Now with internet porn you can see hundreds of different super models in an hour and each new woman is extremely exciting to your brain. It’s the same physiological response one has to something like cocaine or sugary foods. Over time it’s addictive and can damage your brain.
No one is talking about famous men and nobles, though, we're talking about normal dudes.
I'm not going to get into the specifics of why porn is bad, but it is being exacerbated by the completely imploding dating market, and these stats here indicate why the porn epidemic is as bad as it is: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jn5EwrO9hZY
If normal men can't get with women (something they used to be able to do just fine without porn), all they have is porn, and whether AI or not, porn is being used as a leverage to substitute meaningful relationships.
The short gist of it is all porn is bad -- real or CGI, because of how it completely distorts the sex drive, along with the neurological reactions to intimacy.
A lot of men did. Still better for society than porn.
Bullshit. Porn is a Jewish tool to destabilize society, and it works, just like psychoanalysis, anthropology, and communism. There is nothing evolved or natural about a modern product that has existed for less than a hundred years.
Guess what? Cultural products like those marketing ads have some truth to them. Americans were flat out better off in the 60s. You could have the house and picket fence and nuclear family on a single income salary at the factory. Goods cost less in real dollars and your paycheck went longer.
What you're reciting now through other means is the basic leftist mantra that human beings were always just as crooked, greedy, deceptive, and debased as they are today, it was just hidden more effectively in the past. This is not true. The existence of vice in the past does not erase the vastly better rates of dual-parent heterosexual parenting, for example. At the same time, certain phenomena like the lead poisoning crime wave and the iron grip of unions did create worse conditions than today. But it is simply intellectually lazy to comfort yourself that your particular failings are no more or less harmful than those of your ancestors.
Infidelity is not the root cause of monarchic wars of succession, monarchies are. Man, what a retarded argument. Even then people were at least having children in that time period, not committing generational suicide.
Infidelity in the black community exploded since the 60s, when hardcore porn gained traction. I'm not arguing that this is anything more than a coincidence but why, exactly, did you bring this up? This is yet another example of cultural standards degrading in the last hundred years - AKA, the past was indeed better. In today's superior culture, we have furries and trannies running the country and the very fabric of reality is coming apart.
Cool psychoanalysis bro. You'd fit right in with Freud, the Jewish guy that invented the idea that all men secretly want to diddle their mother.
OK, safely make the argument then. Purchasing power was better, home ownership was better, nuclear families were healthier, people were less depressed, but poor families were somehow extremely worse off than today? How?
Are you making an argument in favor of gimmedats? Was the Great Society a great idea?