You're preaching to people who think all porn is evil no matter what and they can't see the forest for the trees. They openly admit to want it being banned because they've got the boomer mindset on steroids and don't understand that all men have sex drives. I'm with you on 3D replacing porn though, I think it would be hilarious to at least put the porn companies and thots out of business.
they've got the boomer mindset on steroids and don't understand that all men have sex drives.
We got along without porn for 6000 years of human history, much of which was far more productive than the present, so nice try.
Don't come at me with "cave paintings" and "fertility sculptures" either unless you think ancient Greeks were jacking it to prints of the statue of Venus.
That's just ignorant as fuck, they may not have had 'porn' back in the day as we know it but come on, go research some history. They had brothels and dancing girls or they bought slaves. Do I need to go into how the romans organised the rape of women or Genghis Khan raped a shit ton of women to the point lots can trace their ancestry back to him to some degree? Not writing that porn is that much better but it's incredible how silly naive some people are.
I wouldn't advocate teaching that shit in schools obviously but I do have a major problem with how sanitised historical documentaries are and you can tell by how people are posting about this topic. There was so much political backstabbing and intrigue at the best of times that you wouldn't believe and depending on what went on it makes the early game of thrones writing look tame by comparison.
Nah, come on, you guys aren't that dumb, don't seriously tell me you believe this shit about ancient cultures being pure. I'll grant you that things are pretty bad now even by ancient standards though thanks to glowie psy ops which is clearly what some porn sites and streaming sites are turning out to be.
Are you seriously comparing historical sexual vices to the smart phone? A machine that fits in the pocket of every 13 year old and can show him the entirety of human sexual experience, including the most deprived and degenerate behavior imaginable, at the push of a button, for free, endlessly, is a completely unprecedented force in human history. Saying “it’s always been this way” is monumentally retarded.
you don't get it, 30000 years ago people were just as into tentacle monster zombie insects from hell egg-raping the decapitated heads of underage japanese children we HAVE to give this to our children it's just human nature!!!!!!!!!
That's just ignorant as fuck, they may not have had 'porn' back in the day as we know it but come on, go research some history. They had brothels and dancing girls or they bought slaves. Do I need to go into how the romans organised the rape of women or Genghis Khan raped a shit ton of women to the point lots can trace their ancestry back to him to some degree?
Why are you bringing up things that are not porn in a discussion about porn?
Btw: we still have all of those things today. Prostitutes are basically slaves.
Nah, come on, you guys aren't that dumb, don't seriously tell me you believe this shit about ancient cultures being pure.
Lol. Ancient men actually had regular sex, much of it in formal relationships. That's the point. This is why the Bible instructs married men and women not to "refuse each other's needs."
Ancient men actually had regular sex, much of it in formal relationships. That's the point.
They did and they didn't, this is why again, are you seriously going to tell me that men who weren't getting sex in a regular relationship wouldn't just go and get it through payment or some other means? Do I really have to go through all of the history of famous men and nobles who regularly banged mistresses and prostitutes when they couldn't get any from their wives? Or they were simply horny fucks who wanted to get some so they took on extra women in their lives to get laid and had illegitimate bastard children as a result causing things like succession wars etc.?
I bring this all up because porn is simply an evolution of how men are dealing with their sex drives. No one's praising it or anything this is just reality. I feel like this reeks of the kind of bullshit I saw being posted around on social media with people going "Look at how much better life was in the 60's" and then they were frequently posting up obvious marketing propaganda from an air travel company and it was clearly a middle/upper class families' living standards being shown.
Again, you guys are smarter than this, brush up on your unsanitised history and don't fall for this kind of silly bollocks.
Honestly? I already feel like this with real porn. It makes me gag thinking about the whole trafficking stuff alone not to mention the whole trafficking hub thing a while ago if I remember correctly the issue with potentially kids being among those videos. Absolutely makes me swear off of it. 3D or drawn is honestly better since there's no potential victim there. Hopefully AI will help there, too and all those big companies get their just deserts by being kicked out of a job.
This is what gets me about the right wing case against porn, surely if you hated it that much you'd be in favour of 3D and hentai because as you correctly point out it deals with the problem of producing fap material without potentially ruining anyone's lives and puts Thots etc. out of business when frankly they deserve it because they're predatory as fuck themselves and know what they're doing.
The problem is the conservative types have very much got the ew boobies mentality and think they can simply ban the porn issue out of existence which simply doesn't work. It happened with alcohol as a vice most people have, that didn't work, I'm not going to be surprised if there's a moral panic over porn as well.
The ironic thing is because of how useless the right is on everything they do it may well be the left leading the charge on this because they screech the most when women can't monopolise male attention anymore. See for example the mere idea of sex bots being introduced, it scares the shit out of them and they reveal what they really care about with their crazy arguments against it.
You're dealing with people who don't just want porn banned but want everything else along with it banned too. To the point where sexuality and nudity is exclusively only done in a private setting in a bedroom between an established (married) couple and where all avenues of sexuality for singles are closed. AI porn included.
When the Russian media regulator banned access to porn, their press response was just something along the lines of "get a girlfriend lol".
Yeah, it's true, I respect the ones who at least come out and say it but the ones who keep pretending they'll leave people alone piss me off. The joke is I can count the people on my hand who are probably advocating that on this site and I suspect they're people I ended up blocking because they're that obnoxious.
There's also the fact that some of them are just white nationalists who are going with the Jew angle which is why I brought historical context into it. They're not interested in that though. I call them all right wing SJWs because whenever you disprove Jewish influence in something they ignore it as inconvenient just like SJWs do whenever they can't pin anything on white people or claim some form of victimhood.
The fact that these people think ancestors going around banging slave girls and mistresses is better than porn forcing me of all people to make the argument against indefinity when I'm not even that invested should tell you everything about their mindset.
You're preaching to people who think all porn is evil no matter what and they can't see the forest for the trees. They openly admit to want it being banned because they've got the boomer mindset on steroids and don't understand that all men have sex drives. I'm with you on 3D replacing porn though, I think it would be hilarious to at least put the porn companies and thots out of business.
We got along without porn for 6000 years of human history, much of which was far more productive than the present, so nice try.
Don't come at me with "cave paintings" and "fertility sculptures" either unless you think ancient Greeks were jacking it to prints of the statue of Venus.
That's just ignorant as fuck, they may not have had 'porn' back in the day as we know it but come on, go research some history. They had brothels and dancing girls or they bought slaves. Do I need to go into how the romans organised the rape of women or Genghis Khan raped a shit ton of women to the point lots can trace their ancestry back to him to some degree? Not writing that porn is that much better but it's incredible how silly naive some people are.
I wouldn't advocate teaching that shit in schools obviously but I do have a major problem with how sanitised historical documentaries are and you can tell by how people are posting about this topic. There was so much political backstabbing and intrigue at the best of times that you wouldn't believe and depending on what went on it makes the early game of thrones writing look tame by comparison.
Nah, come on, you guys aren't that dumb, don't seriously tell me you believe this shit about ancient cultures being pure. I'll grant you that things are pretty bad now even by ancient standards though thanks to glowie psy ops which is clearly what some porn sites and streaming sites are turning out to be.
Are you seriously comparing historical sexual vices to the smart phone? A machine that fits in the pocket of every 13 year old and can show him the entirety of human sexual experience, including the most deprived and degenerate behavior imaginable, at the push of a button, for free, endlessly, is a completely unprecedented force in human history. Saying “it’s always been this way” is monumentally retarded.
you don't get it, 30000 years ago people were just as into tentacle monster zombie insects from hell egg-raping the decapitated heads of underage japanese children we HAVE to give this to our children it's just human nature!!!!!!!!!
Why are you bringing up things that are not porn in a discussion about porn?
Btw: we still have all of those things today. Prostitutes are basically slaves.
Lol. Ancient men actually had regular sex, much of it in formal relationships. That's the point. This is why the Bible instructs married men and women not to "refuse each other's needs."
They did and they didn't, this is why again, are you seriously going to tell me that men who weren't getting sex in a regular relationship wouldn't just go and get it through payment or some other means? Do I really have to go through all of the history of famous men and nobles who regularly banged mistresses and prostitutes when they couldn't get any from their wives? Or they were simply horny fucks who wanted to get some so they took on extra women in their lives to get laid and had illegitimate bastard children as a result causing things like succession wars etc.?
I bring this all up because porn is simply an evolution of how men are dealing with their sex drives. No one's praising it or anything this is just reality. I feel like this reeks of the kind of bullshit I saw being posted around on social media with people going "Look at how much better life was in the 60's" and then they were frequently posting up obvious marketing propaganda from an air travel company and it was clearly a middle/upper class families' living standards being shown.
Again, you guys are smarter than this, brush up on your unsanitised history and don't fall for this kind of silly bollocks.
Honestly? I already feel like this with real porn. It makes me gag thinking about the whole trafficking stuff alone not to mention the whole trafficking hub thing a while ago if I remember correctly the issue with potentially kids being among those videos. Absolutely makes me swear off of it. 3D or drawn is honestly better since there's no potential victim there. Hopefully AI will help there, too and all those big companies get their just deserts by being kicked out of a job.
This is what gets me about the right wing case against porn, surely if you hated it that much you'd be in favour of 3D and hentai because as you correctly point out it deals with the problem of producing fap material without potentially ruining anyone's lives and puts Thots etc. out of business when frankly they deserve it because they're predatory as fuck themselves and know what they're doing.
The problem is the conservative types have very much got the ew boobies mentality and think they can simply ban the porn issue out of existence which simply doesn't work. It happened with alcohol as a vice most people have, that didn't work, I'm not going to be surprised if there's a moral panic over porn as well.
The ironic thing is because of how useless the right is on everything they do it may well be the left leading the charge on this because they screech the most when women can't monopolise male attention anymore. See for example the mere idea of sex bots being introduced, it scares the shit out of them and they reveal what they really care about with their crazy arguments against it.
You're dealing with people who don't just want porn banned but want everything else along with it banned too. To the point where sexuality and nudity is exclusively only done in a private setting in a bedroom between an established (married) couple and where all avenues of sexuality for singles are closed. AI porn included.
When the Russian media regulator banned access to porn, their press response was just something along the lines of "get a girlfriend lol".
Yeah, it's true, I respect the ones who at least come out and say it but the ones who keep pretending they'll leave people alone piss me off. The joke is I can count the people on my hand who are probably advocating that on this site and I suspect they're people I ended up blocking because they're that obnoxious.
There's also the fact that some of them are just white nationalists who are going with the Jew angle which is why I brought historical context into it. They're not interested in that though. I call them all right wing SJWs because whenever you disprove Jewish influence in something they ignore it as inconvenient just like SJWs do whenever they can't pin anything on white people or claim some form of victimhood.
The fact that these people think ancestors going around banging slave girls and mistresses is better than porn forcing me of all people to make the argument against indefinity when I'm not even that invested should tell you everything about their mindset.