The cross section of people trying to remove the word Christmas from common vernacular is broad, but virtually all of them are atheist or irreligious almost by definition. They wouldn’t be trying to erase Christ’s name if they believed in him.
This movement isn’t being led by other religions either. Unless you consider all of the atheistic jews who run our media organizations a religion, which I don’t.
but virtually all of them are atheist or irreligious
kinda? my point being here is to me. the people attacking christmas are usually the feminist, BLM type of folks. of course their are probably some atheist in there? i guess? but by and large i think the people attacking you guy's religion is more so doing it because... it hurts white people? is usually he mantra of these guys. again i could be wrong but i don't see alot of atheist shitting on christmas and more so progressive who are either self hating christians, or people of another religion.
I’m a Christian and I’ve never understood the issue people have with saying merry Christmas but they do seem to cross over with those who hate white people. Most people celebrate Christmas including some non Christians. If I lived in Saudi Arabia I wouldn’t whine about Ramadan
I’m a Christian and I’ve never understood the issue people have with saying merry Christmas but they do seem to cross over with those who hate white people
exactly that's what i'm saying.
If I lived in Saudi Arabia I wouldn’t whine about Ramadan
i am an atheist. i don't believe that a god exist.
The question is not whether god exists. God did not create man, man created god, that much is trivial. If you think reaching that intellectual level is somehow a dunk on the faithful, you're just a very dim, shallow, petty, and naive person.
The question is why god must exist. When you understand that, then you can understand why man attributed man's creation to god.
God must exist for one simple reason. To make the wrongness of murder universal. That's all. A flat foundation on which to build a counter philosophy to moral relativism. Nothing more. Understanding that, then you can get to whether you believe in god, and your answer to that says nothing about the nature of the universe and existence, and everything about you and your view on moral relativism.
i have an opposition to religion. but despite that i agree that companies and brands and buisness are softkey censoring the word Christmas. i actually like christmas and was explaining a piece of my history regarding that.
seriously though what is wrong with people like you? if some dumbass christian announced their faith in god and jesus they get a pass? but if i simply say i don't believe in a god i get people like you? since you know it all jackass. what are my views on religion people? what are my views on someone believing in a god? or. do i think religious people can be good?
You know nothing of me or what i think. all you know is. i'm an atheist, and therefore must believe anyone who is not an atheist. are beneath me. listen man other atheist do believe in that stuff. i do not. i actually view someone's intelligence, to their religion to be separate. but you didn't even bother to ask me what i thought. or even get to know me. instead you just made me to be your enemy simply because i stated i don't believe in a god. you guys are assholes.
All i stated was their was no god. other christians and people of other believes praise their god, say good god. or praise god. or whatever. the fact alone you had an explosion over someone saying. "i don't believe a god exist" is very telling of your mental. now again, if you believe in a god cool. i didn't even say anything direct like. "their is no god" but you went off the deep end over another person's opinion.
now i will not be answering your question regarding is murder wrong because i've been there before with other christians. you believe god is a necessary evil... to keep people from doing bad things because without a god people would fall into murder and chaos... i-i actually disagree. and you seem like the type of who believes without a god we'd all be dead.
again i did not mean to coax this out of you. this was something you inferred. and i full on disagree people needing a god to do good, or to stay inline. but whatever floats your boat i guess.
you believe god is a necessary evil... to keep people from doing bad things
No, that's an overreach. God is only necessary to DEFINE absolute good and absolute bad.
All moral absolutism is a fabrication. It does not exist in nature. But being a fabrication does not make something not real.
Without god, the moral relativists are "correct". A cat's sadistic joy of playing with a mouse it has already wounded is right and good because the cat's own existence and satisfaction is all that exists to the cat.
We humans invented god. As surely as we invented tools and weapons. We invented god to serve a purpose, to solve a problem which we have studied for thousands of years. We looked for a source of moral absolutes that could be universalized onto all beings. And what we found is that no source within ourselves would serve. We had to project the problem onto something external and untouchable. Law is insufficient. Tyrants are unreliable. Only god could fit the task.
this is dumb. i believe humans would've been fucked with or without a god. i think it's rather uncertain if things would've gotten worse, or better, with or without religion. the results are kinda inconclusive if human history would've been better off with or without it.
also, morals don't exist so your right on the money with that however... despite what i said earlier... some bad people in position of power like... kings, and rulers. would times use god or be fill in for gods who would unfairly rule over his subjects. the problem your making here is. with the advent creation of god! we could project our morals on to him, which other people could follow.
wrong, people don't need a god to make judgement systems of right and wrong. most people already know their wrongs from their right. also, their are some devout christians with... questionable morals. i believe morals are things that best work for society, and those morals can change over time. so while your car example is rudimentary. it does sum up morals and the extant of it.
also, morals don't exist so your right on the money with that however... despite what i said earlier... some bad people in position of power like... kings, and rulers. would times use god or be fill in for gods who would unfairly rule over his subjects
Yes, they did. Tyrants are an effective source of absolute right and wrong. Backed with an army they are certainly capable of actualizing their moral system.
But as I said, they're not a reliable source. Not every tyrant is just, and even just tyrants are still mortal. They grow old and die (or, tbh, more often are killed).
Perhaps someday we'll make a machine that can be a perfect tyrant, and on that day god can retire. But frankly I think people like yourself will hate that even more than they hate god, because in that case you'll have a tangible target.
i'm more upset about the purpose of a god. what this god chooses to do/not do. some say god created us and doesn't interfere with human affairs. ok, that doesn't sound to bad of a concept. however...
in the bible he does interfere all the time! so the next question is... suffering, or extreme suffering. holocaust, the crusades. WW1 and many other needless acts of violence. so if god is a concept that helps keeps us all together... why is it their are wakes of bodies in this concept that is necessary for peoples well beings? now again, i can't say those same problems wouldn't have existed in a atheistic world. but it's certainly not any better in a theistic world either.
This site is his personal blog, chud.
i did
No one cares what you think about any topic, atheist sperg. You have the IQ of a Labrador.
Not cool, asshole, not cool. Labs can be taught to not shit on the carpet and to respond to simple verbal commands.
i care what i think
The cross section of people trying to remove the word Christmas from common vernacular is broad, but virtually all of them are atheist or irreligious almost by definition. They wouldn’t be trying to erase Christ’s name if they believed in him.
This movement isn’t being led by other religions either. Unless you consider all of the atheistic jews who run our media organizations a religion, which I don’t.
kinda? my point being here is to me. the people attacking christmas are usually the feminist, BLM type of folks. of course their are probably some atheist in there? i guess? but by and large i think the people attacking you guy's religion is more so doing it because... it hurts white people? is usually he mantra of these guys. again i could be wrong but i don't see alot of atheist shitting on christmas and more so progressive who are either self hating christians, or people of another religion.
Is not even about african gods, retard
shows how much i know.
I’m a Christian and I’ve never understood the issue people have with saying merry Christmas but they do seem to cross over with those who hate white people. Most people celebrate Christmas including some non Christians. If I lived in Saudi Arabia I wouldn’t whine about Ramadan
exactly that's what i'm saying.
EXACTLY!
The question is not whether god exists. God did not create man, man created god, that much is trivial. If you think reaching that intellectual level is somehow a dunk on the faithful, you're just a very dim, shallow, petty, and naive person.
The question is why god must exist. When you understand that, then you can understand why man attributed man's creation to god.
God must exist for one simple reason. To make the wrongness of murder universal. That's all. A flat foundation on which to build a counter philosophy to moral relativism. Nothing more. Understanding that, then you can get to whether you believe in god, and your answer to that says nothing about the nature of the universe and existence, and everything about you and your view on moral relativism.
i have an opposition to religion. but despite that i agree that companies and brands and buisness are softkey censoring the word Christmas. i actually like christmas and was explaining a piece of my history regarding that.
seriously though what is wrong with people like you? if some dumbass christian announced their faith in god and jesus they get a pass? but if i simply say i don't believe in a god i get people like you? since you know it all jackass. what are my views on religion people? what are my views on someone believing in a god? or. do i think religious people can be good?
You know nothing of me or what i think. all you know is. i'm an atheist, and therefore must believe anyone who is not an atheist. are beneath me. listen man other atheist do believe in that stuff. i do not. i actually view someone's intelligence, to their religion to be separate. but you didn't even bother to ask me what i thought. or even get to know me. instead you just made me to be your enemy simply because i stated i don't believe in a god. you guys are assholes.
Very well, if you want to have this argument...
Is murder wrong and if so, why?
yeah before we even go over this.
All i stated was their was no god. other christians and people of other believes praise their god, say good god. or praise god. or whatever. the fact alone you had an explosion over someone saying. "i don't believe a god exist" is very telling of your mental. now again, if you believe in a god cool. i didn't even say anything direct like. "their is no god" but you went off the deep end over another person's opinion.
now i will not be answering your question regarding is murder wrong because i've been there before with other christians. you believe god is a necessary evil... to keep people from doing bad things because without a god people would fall into murder and chaos... i-i actually disagree. and you seem like the type of who believes without a god we'd all be dead.
again i did not mean to coax this out of you. this was something you inferred. and i full on disagree people needing a god to do good, or to stay inline. but whatever floats your boat i guess.
No, that's an overreach. God is only necessary to DEFINE absolute good and absolute bad.
All moral absolutism is a fabrication. It does not exist in nature. But being a fabrication does not make something not real.
Without god, the moral relativists are "correct". A cat's sadistic joy of playing with a mouse it has already wounded is right and good because the cat's own existence and satisfaction is all that exists to the cat.
We humans invented god. As surely as we invented tools and weapons. We invented god to serve a purpose, to solve a problem which we have studied for thousands of years. We looked for a source of moral absolutes that could be universalized onto all beings. And what we found is that no source within ourselves would serve. We had to project the problem onto something external and untouchable. Law is insufficient. Tyrants are unreliable. Only god could fit the task.
this is dumb. i believe humans would've been fucked with or without a god. i think it's rather uncertain if things would've gotten worse, or better, with or without religion. the results are kinda inconclusive if human history would've been better off with or without it.
also, morals don't exist so your right on the money with that however... despite what i said earlier... some bad people in position of power like... kings, and rulers. would times use god or be fill in for gods who would unfairly rule over his subjects. the problem your making here is. with the advent creation of god! we could project our morals on to him, which other people could follow.
wrong, people don't need a god to make judgement systems of right and wrong. most people already know their wrongs from their right. also, their are some devout christians with... questionable morals. i believe morals are things that best work for society, and those morals can change over time. so while your car example is rudimentary. it does sum up morals and the extant of it.
Yes, they did. Tyrants are an effective source of absolute right and wrong. Backed with an army they are certainly capable of actualizing their moral system.
But as I said, they're not a reliable source. Not every tyrant is just, and even just tyrants are still mortal. They grow old and die (or, tbh, more often are killed).
Perhaps someday we'll make a machine that can be a perfect tyrant, and on that day god can retire. But frankly I think people like yourself will hate that even more than they hate god, because in that case you'll have a tangible target.
i'm more upset about the purpose of a god. what this god chooses to do/not do. some say god created us and doesn't interfere with human affairs. ok, that doesn't sound to bad of a concept. however...
in the bible he does interfere all the time! so the next question is... suffering, or extreme suffering. holocaust, the crusades. WW1 and many other needless acts of violence. so if god is a concept that helps keeps us all together... why is it their are wakes of bodies in this concept that is necessary for peoples well beings? now again, i can't say those same problems wouldn't have existed in a atheistic world. but it's certainly not any better in a theistic world either.
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OP, you don't have enough time in this forum to post new threads.
my bad