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McCarthy ousted as speaker
posted 2 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 2 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +41 / -0

What now?

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– Kaarous 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

What now? Who cares. It's not like McCarthy wasn't blatantly uniparty himself. Money is fake, democracy is an immoral sham and politics is a clown show.

Anything that accelerates secession and collapse is good, business as usual and kicking the can is bad.

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– BetterNameUnfound 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Money is fake

Wrong.

Fiat currency is fake.

Currency is only ever a claim check to money.

Gold. Silver. Intrinsic value.

"Ten dollars in gold coin, payable to the bearer on demand."

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– Shill4Hire 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Gold is a fiat currency. Gold lets people know you did some level of labor, worth some amount of food, which you can pass around like a betting chip. It has no inherent value to almost anyone, unless you're into large electronics manufacturing. Things can have inflation related to gold, or recession. A gold coin could buy a bushel of wheat back when, but now, only half a bushel, due to bad harvest, in example. The gold has no value to the farmer, it is only symbolic of works performed in the past. And the "true" value of the gold is basically determined by the nobility or governing body.

Ass, gas, and grass: Those aren't fiat currencies. Real things that people directly wish to obtain, and trade for. If people say gold has no value, then gold has no value. But if people say food has no value, they starve to death and are removed from the system.

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– BetterNameUnfound 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Money needs to be stable. In order to be stable, it needs to meet these 7 characteristics.

(1) It must be durable, which is why we don’t use wheat or corn, or rice.

(2) It must be divisible, which is why we don’t use artwork.

(3) It must be convenient, which is why we don’t use lead or copper.

(4) It must be consistent, which is why we don’t use real estate.

(5) It must possess value in itself, which is why we don’t use paper.

(6) It must be limited in the quantity that is available, which is why we don’t use aluminum or iron.

(7) It should have a long history of acceptance, which is why we don’t use molybdenum or rhodium.

Only GOLD and SILVER fit all seven characteristics.

EVERYTHING else is inferior which makes them credit. They are essentially Gold substitutes.

If you had a race to see who was the fastest man in the world there can only be one winner and ONLY ONE person can hold the label of the fastest man in the world. It doesn't mean that the rest are slow it just means that they are not the fastest.

Value is ultimately determined by the person holding the money. "He who has the Gold makes the rules."

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– thrwaway_1000 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

There is literally an asteroid (near enough that NASA has a trip planned) with enough gold to make everyone on earth a billionaire, so not really all that scarce. Thus not really money by your definition.

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– BandageBandolier 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Wanna know a real post-collapse gold standard currency? Antibiotics.

They're currently strictly controlled so very few have any personal stockpile, difficult to make, have life-or-death value, and stored correctly have a real world self-life far longer than the already generous use by dates, making them far less perishable than food.

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– Shill4Hire 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Even just NyQuil would have significant value, and follows all that nonsense chart the other person posted. But NyQuil falls under "grass" in the big rhyming three: Drugs. Antibiotics do too, in their own way. But there is a difference between preparing for a recession, preparing for a depression, and preparing for a collapse.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Re: accelerationism. This article made me worried that things can just get worse indefinitely.

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– Kaarous 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

You don't live here anyway, so your concern rings hollow to me.

Secondly, things will not get better in America by peaceful means. Trump's greatest achievement was proving that.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

You don't live here anyway, so your concern rings hollow to me.

Correct, but things aren't exactly going swimmingly in the rest of the US empire either.

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– Kaarous 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

Europe will be in flames of their own making regardless. Brussels has ensured that.

The Russians cutting off Niger's supplies to France's nuclear plants was a stroke of genius.

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– censorthisss 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

You're getting downvoted but history proves that acceleration leads to worse outcomes almost every time.

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– activated_almonds 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I'll take "almost" over "guaranteed march of the boots of tyranny on our faces, forever" unless there's a better alternative.

Slowing down isn't an option that works. Only a reversal of course is a solution.

Back, or through.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Like you, I'm not interested in the boots abiding by a speed limit. What about a slow but steady reversal? That seems to be the best option that's in the cards.

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– Sneak_King 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'm agreeing with AoV over Kaarous. Surely, nothing can get worse than that.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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