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"Liberty" Safe remotely opens gun safe owned by a J6er on FBI request. Then, they blocked comments when their customer base voiced their displeasure. (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by YesMovement 2 years ago by YesMovement +97 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 32 points 2 years ago +32 / -0

When I bought a safe, electronic just seemed ridiculous. Just extra batteries to deal with. It's not that hard to put in a simple combination on a mechanical lock, I can have it open in 15 seconds without trying to go fast. Electronic safe is fixing a problem that doesn't exist. Mine is just a fire safe too, it wouldn't be that tough to keep out someone with tools. A big expensive high security safe? I don't want no electronic shit.

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– akira2501 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

If someone can get to you, with your guard complete down, inside of 15 seconds, you're fucked anyways.

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– cccpneveragain 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

My guns aren't even in a safe. I don't see the value if you aren't trying to lock them up from people welcome in your home. They are right next to the safe though. The way I see if they've made it that far either I'm not home or I've already been shot and killed. I keep a safe to protect documents, backups, and cash from fire mainly.

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– Ender910 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'd maybe consider going for a dual lock combo with a mechanical and electronic one. Both kinds of locks likely have their advantages and disadvantages, security-wise, so having a layer of each would likely cancel out most disadvantages.

Although in both cases I suspect the manufacturers have a master key, and I don't feel confident enough to try a DIY job on something as sophisticated as a safe locking mechanism.

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– DemolitionsPanda 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The issue with safes and locks in general is the failure state.

Electronic locks can fail open or fail closed. Mechanical locks can only fail closed.

Double the locks on your safe is double the vulnerabilities to attack.

Master key systems are expensive to implement and add a huge vulnerability to locks. Lose a master key and a whole product line is potentially compromised.

If I am going to buy a safe, I want it to come with the promise that I am the only one who can open it. If I lose my key, it is going to require a specialist or a grinder.

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– cccpneveragain 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I figure if I'm being hunted by the government I'm already screwed anyway. They don't need contents of a safe to lock me up for no reason.

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– Ender910 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'd be tempted to go out of my way to get a top of the line safe that's a pain to bust into, and leave it completely empty, just so I can see the frustrated reaction from the Feds. Maybe leave something in there like a clown nose, just to troll them further.

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I have an old one of those cheap file safes in a closet. I figured if I am ever burglarized it's a diversion, maybe they think they got my safe and quit looking around that hard. Only thing in it is a picture of Nancy Pelosi that I got in the mail as some sort of campaign prop back during Covid "14 days means eternity" time.

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