I’ve seen enough of your posts to know you don’t have anything to offer that I haven’t already seen 100 times on forums back in 2006. No one needs you to “educate” them on atheism.
All this nonsense because one guy liked posting Bible verses tells me how deeply insecure you are in your own beliefs.
I'm not the one calling for censorship. You've said the posts don't belong here because they aren't "nerd" related.
Well, there's a half dozen posts I can see at a glance that aren't about nerd culture on this board. One about NASCAR. Another about soccer. Not everything that gets posted has to fall into the realm of nerd culture.
Atheists did a slight of hand with the term of atheism. If it used to mean disbelief in God, and now they've just turned it into a redundant word which they claim means "lack of belief in God" aka agnostic.
Ok I've seen this weird distinction before and I'd love to figure out what it's supposed to mean. Lack of belief = disbelief, what is the slight of hand supposed to be? You either believe or you don't, it's a binary, in the quoted description atheist and agnostic are functionally the same thing.
"Partial belief" or "belief, terms and conditions apply" isn't belief, it's just a suspicion, because it's in the definition of belief that it exists above rationalization or doubt. If your definition of agnostic is half way between atheism and truly devout then that's "I suspect there might be a Good but don't truly believe it in my heart, I'm just hedging my bets" not just "a lack of belief in God", in which case you're calling the wrong people agnostic, those agnostics are in churches every other Sunday.
Although I think you have the timeline flipped there. Atheist is a 16th century word with a pretty clear etymology that means "without God", or more literally "not a Theist" - AKA "lack of belief in God", whereas "against God" would be constructed as "antitheist" from those same roots. Agnostic is a 19th century word that from its etymological roots would be synonymous with atheist, if perhaps slightly more broad as to applying to not just all personable God's but all unknown powers in the universe.
The split to atheism being considered a belief against God and agnostic being a lack of belief is a more recent development, and is a evolution that is still incomplete, probably even reverting in most modern usage. Possibly because the language roots are so obvious and at odds with that context driven interpretation that people unfamiliar with the conflict will see "atheist" and immediately think "that must mean lack of faith"
"Oh, no, my bad-faith attempts to denigrate people's belief systems were met with hostility!"
Do you not realise how transparent you are?
Do I think Christians are correct about everything?
No, of course not, if I did, I would be one
Do I think picking out specific passages in an attempt to misrepresent the entire religion is a worthwhile exercise on any level?
No, of course not. That'd be like trying to run a cancel culture mob on you for some dumb shit you said as a teenager. Is it representative of the thing as it actually is? If not, why these infantile attempts to own the Christians.
Honestly, people like you are why I barely discuss my atheism, because I'm concerned that when I do, people will think that I am like you
people saw atheism as a intellectual shame. thinking of it as... i frankly don't know what they think of atheism, and plenty more
Nah, they think your brand of preaching atheism is an intellectual shame. That's different.
who... quite frankly, didn't know atheism was, was shocking!
You ever thought that maybe the word atheism has joined the ranks of other words that have lost all meaning? Like in, most people parading their 'atheism' around are pseudointellectual hacks that think not being 'bound' by religious views gives them some sort of moral and intellectual high ground, when they actually have neither?
stated leftism and atheism. are the same thing!
They surely are not. But the overlap between so called atheists and leftist cunts is ... quite astonishing. As many here said: Most people cannot exist without a prescribed moral framework because they cannot or will not establish one for themselves and adhere to it. So, in rejecting religion they have a need for another prescriptive moral framework. The right's moral framework is tied to Christianity so they cannot go there. And that's why most 'atheist' end up as rabid leftist lunatics that'll defend islam because somehow not every god or religion is to be damned.
now i know they literally have on clue what atheism is. and probably what we think.
Could be that. Could be that most just stopped caring what 'atheists' think, because, as most have adopted the moral framework of the left there's no use to engaging in debate. Just as there is no use in engaging in debate with any other flavor of leftist, because the only principle they adhere to, is the will to power and everything they say or do is subservient to that principle, even if it means to contradict themselves constantly.
and i will be making efforts of some sort to educate people on atheism
I'm sure most people look forward to ignore these 'efforts'
the only one I recited was you. I paraphrased what others said, at best. What I paraphrased wasn't dumb. You didn't even reference what I said but built a strawman of arguments that were never uttered, called these arguments dumb, pretended you won an argument and then proceeded to call me dumb as well for good measure.
As I said: The only place were your little 'win' happened, was in your head. Just like the other day, when the only one that thought our little buddha, a guy that spammed here before you were even aware of this little niche of the internet and has called himself everything from the messiah to the savior, only ever appeared because someone posted bible-quotes, was your sorry ass.
For what it's worth, I saw very few people attacking or misunderstanding atheism.
Plenty of people criticized or even attacked you...after you admitted to trying to be an annoying little shit.
Atheism didn't enter into it in the slightest; if you'd behaved the exact same way on some other topic, you would have gotten the same response. To whine about people "not understanding" your ideology is blatant and ridiculous cope.
For example, you can find people sperging out on various topics, and see how they're treated. The issue isn't the ideology, it's the presentation. Fanatical haters or lovers of the following will generally be told to fuck off; women, Nazis, Jews, Trump, DeSantis, Ukraine, Russia, and many more. The fanatics on either said take it too far, and receive deserved criticism for their obnoxious behavior and bad takes.
You're not special. You were obsessive, and went out of your way to be annoying, and were treated as such. Again, it had nothing to do with atheism, or you being "misunderstood." You wanted to stir shit up, did, and then bitched about the results.
this whole response is bullshit. if you were gonna waste my time man you could've dm'd me to kill myself and blocked me!
I'm not a bitch. You keep saying you're intentionally pissing people off, and then blaming them for not blocking you. Nah. Never blocked people, outside of actual malicious spam. I don't see the point.
so many things wrong here.
Then you quote me saying people weren't attacking atheism.
kinda?
You say I'm wrong, then basically at least in part admit I'm right, and that you were exaggerating. Beautiful.
apparently you can't asshole.
Learn to type. I don't even know what you're saying here.
...i respect it [atheism] enough to wanna defend if people don't know what their hating.
Hahaha.
this doesn't apply to me. i made 1 post aday in KIA2, responded civily in the comment section underneath my post. that was it.
i never antagonized shit!
You've said you wanted to rile people up, lol...you've said that multiple times.
if you guys get triggered. by 1 post per day. that has nothing to do with me. but says a whole lot about you guys. and how easily triggered you are when you have the block button at your disposal.
Again, blocking is for bitches. And no one was triggered. You keep going on about your bible verses, or how little you allegedly post. Who cares? I never talked about either of those things.
never claimed that i was [special]
You acted like you were, when you tried to make people disagreeing with your antagonistic takes as a "misunderstanding of atheism." That's why I said you're not special. People were disagreeing with you, not atheism.
yes. obsessive. obsessive to the point i only do it once a day and move on with my life. your right, my wreckless and offensive posts. no, not posts? ok, post. was out of line and boarder line stalking. yeah your totally right man...idiot
Is "your experience" supposed to mean anything to us here?
I’ve seen enough of your posts to know you don’t have anything to offer that I haven’t already seen 100 times on forums back in 2006. No one needs you to “educate” them on atheism.
All this nonsense because one guy liked posting Bible verses tells me how deeply insecure you are in your own beliefs.
Then downvote it or block the users posting it. It's that easy.
I'm not the one calling for censorship. You've said the posts don't belong here because they aren't "nerd" related.
Well, there's a half dozen posts I can see at a glance that aren't about nerd culture on this board. One about NASCAR. Another about soccer. Not everything that gets posted has to fall into the realm of nerd culture.
Ok I've seen this weird distinction before and I'd love to figure out what it's supposed to mean. Lack of belief = disbelief, what is the slight of hand supposed to be? You either believe or you don't, it's a binary, in the quoted description atheist and agnostic are functionally the same thing.
"Partial belief" or "belief, terms and conditions apply" isn't belief, it's just a suspicion, because it's in the definition of belief that it exists above rationalization or doubt. If your definition of agnostic is half way between atheism and truly devout then that's "I suspect there might be a Good but don't truly believe it in my heart, I'm just hedging my bets" not just "a lack of belief in God", in which case you're calling the wrong people agnostic, those agnostics are in churches every other Sunday.
Got it, I think.
Although I think you have the timeline flipped there. Atheist is a 16th century word with a pretty clear etymology that means "without God", or more literally "not a Theist" - AKA "lack of belief in God", whereas "against God" would be constructed as "antitheist" from those same roots. Agnostic is a 19th century word that from its etymological roots would be synonymous with atheist, if perhaps slightly more broad as to applying to not just all personable God's but all unknown powers in the universe.
The split to atheism being considered a belief against God and agnostic being a lack of belief is a more recent development, and is a evolution that is still incomplete, probably even reverting in most modern usage. Possibly because the language roots are so obvious and at odds with that context driven interpretation that people unfamiliar with the conflict will see "atheist" and immediately think "that must mean lack of faith"
“Omg you guys don’t know about atheism! Let me help!”
Fuck off lol
https://www.livejournal.com/
"Oh, no, my bad-faith attempts to denigrate people's belief systems were met with hostility!"
Do you not realise how transparent you are?
Do I think Christians are correct about everything?
No, of course not, if I did, I would be one
Do I think picking out specific passages in an attempt to misrepresent the entire religion is a worthwhile exercise on any level?
No, of course not. That'd be like trying to run a cancel culture mob on you for some dumb shit you said as a teenager. Is it representative of the thing as it actually is? If not, why these infantile attempts to own the Christians.
Honestly, people like you are why I barely discuss my atheism, because I'm concerned that when I do, people will think that I am like you
Well, with an attitude like that, I suggest you get used to being a disappointment.
By posting more of it.
God you're a fucking tool.
Tl;Dr.
Nah, they think your brand of preaching atheism is an intellectual shame. That's different.
You ever thought that maybe the word atheism has joined the ranks of other words that have lost all meaning? Like in, most people parading their 'atheism' around are pseudointellectual hacks that think not being 'bound' by religious views gives them some sort of moral and intellectual high ground, when they actually have neither?
They surely are not. But the overlap between so called atheists and leftist cunts is ... quite astonishing. As many here said: Most people cannot exist without a prescribed moral framework because they cannot or will not establish one for themselves and adhere to it. So, in rejecting religion they have a need for another prescriptive moral framework. The right's moral framework is tied to Christianity so they cannot go there. And that's why most 'atheist' end up as rabid leftist lunatics that'll defend islam because somehow not every god or religion is to be damned.
Could be that. Could be that most just stopped caring what 'atheists' think, because, as most have adopted the moral framework of the left there's no use to engaging in debate. Just as there is no use in engaging in debate with any other flavor of leftist, because the only principle they adhere to, is the will to power and everything they say or do is subservient to that principle, even if it means to contradict themselves constantly.
I'm sure most people look forward to ignore these 'efforts'
I mean, ok. You defeated arguments that i never made, but if that is what rocks your boat, go ahead.
Only in your head.
the only one I recited was you. I paraphrased what others said, at best. What I paraphrased wasn't dumb. You didn't even reference what I said but built a strawman of arguments that were never uttered, called these arguments dumb, pretended you won an argument and then proceeded to call me dumb as well for good measure.
As I said: The only place were your little 'win' happened, was in your head. Just like the other day, when the only one that thought our little buddha, a guy that spammed here before you were even aware of this little niche of the internet and has called himself everything from the messiah to the savior, only ever appeared because someone posted bible-quotes, was your sorry ass.
why would I do that? Are you new to the internet?
livejournal is that way --->
For what it's worth, I saw very few people attacking or misunderstanding atheism.
Plenty of people criticized or even attacked you...after you admitted to trying to be an annoying little shit.
Atheism didn't enter into it in the slightest; if you'd behaved the exact same way on some other topic, you would have gotten the same response. To whine about people "not understanding" your ideology is blatant and ridiculous cope.
For example, you can find people sperging out on various topics, and see how they're treated. The issue isn't the ideology, it's the presentation. Fanatical haters or lovers of the following will generally be told to fuck off; women, Nazis, Jews, Trump, DeSantis, Ukraine, Russia, and many more. The fanatics on either said take it too far, and receive deserved criticism for their obnoxious behavior and bad takes.
You're not special. You were obsessive, and went out of your way to be annoying, and were treated as such. Again, it had nothing to do with atheism, or you being "misunderstood." You wanted to stir shit up, did, and then bitched about the results.
I'm not a bitch. You keep saying you're intentionally pissing people off, and then blaming them for not blocking you. Nah. Never blocked people, outside of actual malicious spam. I don't see the point.
Then you quote me saying people weren't attacking atheism.
You say I'm wrong, then basically at least in part admit I'm right, and that you were exaggerating. Beautiful.
Learn to type. I don't even know what you're saying here.
Hahaha.
You've said you wanted to rile people up, lol...you've said that multiple times.
Again, blocking is for bitches. And no one was triggered. You keep going on about your bible verses, or how little you allegedly post. Who cares? I never talked about either of those things.
You acted like you were, when you tried to make people disagreeing with your antagonistic takes as a "misunderstanding of atheism." That's why I said you're not special. People were disagreeing with you, not atheism.
I never said any of that?
Oof, man. Oof.
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That's more on him than anything else.
Poster actually is an older poster
Post Approved: OP, you should probably just stop proselytizing and just state your opinions normally, and engage in amicable discussion.