I think a panel of competent writers could fix most of the Star Wars swirl trilogy in an afternoon. The problem is the “white board”. You know, the one filled top to bottom with progressive buzzwords that have nothing to do with telling a good story. As long as that white board is in the room, Disney will continue to suck.
Edit: I meant to type “sequel” trilogy, but swirl is better.
Star Wars also requires that "it" factor of the Force though, which is something you have to understand philosophically. The Force is a metaphor for God: the source of true goodness, investing every choice with meaning, and supreme. You can't just grab the guy who wrote Dune and expect him to turn out a great Star Wars script because he has a totally different view of the world and attempting to ape the Star Wars atmosphere will come off as cynical or clumsy.
For example, Rogue One had an interesting idea to explore the Rebellion committing necessary evils, but the whole idea of the rebels being a bunch of sociopathic CIA hardasses kind of defeats the point of the Rebellion itself, because we know what the CIA turns into and it ain't pretty. Also Jyn Erso's Disney speech was an uncomfortably maudlin fusion of Belle and Patton.
Star Wars also requires that "it" factor of the Force though, which is something you have to understand philosophically.
Lucas could barely keep it coherent or having any actual philosophy behind it. It only ever worked when it was so vague it barely had any substance and your mind just filled it in.
Even your definition only works for a couple of characters and a handful of scenes overall.
Star Wars isn't an intellectual treatise, but there is a consistent underlying structure and its mode of expression is highly affecting and occasionally sophisticated in imagery, musical score, and symbolism. The meaning may be simple, but to fully understand it you also have to understand its transformation into cinema, and that's complex.
This doesn't even get into the problem of reproduction. Star Wars is a product of the auteur era and only an auteur could effectively capture it authentically.
Like I'm sure Gareth Edwards is more than capable of understanding the philosophy of Star Wars. But he just doesn't.
No joke, Admiral Radish is the best character in the entire Disney SW franchise. Chads right past the impotent female leadership of the rebels and actually has the gall to take the fight to the enemy.
And he has about ten minutes of screen time before he dies.
It's abundantly clear that at least two different people made that movie, it's so incredibly schizophrenic about tone and pacing.
I know I'm an EU fan so I am biased, but when they decided to do away with it you would think someone would say "you know those are some of the most hardcore fans, so maybe we should just continue those stories in a separate continuity while having our main canon".
I've seen so many Youtubers give their Sequel Trilogy ideas and they all sound a lot better than what we got. Heck if you just want to cater to the fans and do fan service..... have Luke be the one to catch that lightsabert in TFA and he runs of Kylo Ren who has defeated Rey.
I wonder if it’s even possible to satisfy the progressive white board while telling a good story. Some of those leftist requirements go beyond diversity casting and extend to plot and character requirements that are entirely at odds with good storytelling. It’s one thing to say “half or more of the people in every scene need to be female” and quite another to say “our female lead can never be shown demonstrating weakness or any negative character trait”.
It is, but it requires a considerable amount of work and thought to be put into the holistic picture. You can't just write scenes then write the leadins to those in a string of lines like many productions do.
Which means you'd need one person with a good sense of self awareness working without executives constantly rewriting pieces (and thus disrupting the overall body). Leaving it impossible in practice to actually reach.
You could do a pretty good 'passing the torch' story by simply using the Thrawn Trilogy(with some allusions to Jedi Academy) with very few modifications.
Of course, if they wanted to go complete balls to the wall, simply use the Legacy comics and keep one particular characters heritage as a 'wham' moment.
Now that I can’t speak to, I haven’t played since the year it came out - but I heard BioWare just handed off development / management of it to another company which doesn’t bode well
I think a panel of competent writers could fix most of the Star Wars swirl trilogy in an afternoon. The problem is the “white board”. You know, the one filled top to bottom with progressive buzzwords that have nothing to do with telling a good story. As long as that white board is in the room, Disney will continue to suck.
Edit: I meant to type “sequel” trilogy, but swirl is better.
Star Wars also requires that "it" factor of the Force though, which is something you have to understand philosophically. The Force is a metaphor for God: the source of true goodness, investing every choice with meaning, and supreme. You can't just grab the guy who wrote Dune and expect him to turn out a great Star Wars script because he has a totally different view of the world and attempting to ape the Star Wars atmosphere will come off as cynical or clumsy.
For example, Rogue One had an interesting idea to explore the Rebellion committing necessary evils, but the whole idea of the rebels being a bunch of sociopathic CIA hardasses kind of defeats the point of the Rebellion itself, because we know what the CIA turns into and it ain't pretty. Also Jyn Erso's Disney speech was an uncomfortably maudlin fusion of Belle and Patton.
Lucas could barely keep it coherent or having any actual philosophy behind it. It only ever worked when it was so vague it barely had any substance and your mind just filled it in.
Even your definition only works for a couple of characters and a handful of scenes overall.
Star Wars isn't an intellectual treatise, but there is a consistent underlying structure and its mode of expression is highly affecting and occasionally sophisticated in imagery, musical score, and symbolism. The meaning may be simple, but to fully understand it you also have to understand its transformation into cinema, and that's complex.
This doesn't even get into the problem of reproduction. Star Wars is a product of the auteur era and only an auteur could effectively capture it authentically.
Like I'm sure Gareth Edwards is more than capable of understanding the philosophy of Star Wars. But he just doesn't.
You're going to get me to watch R1 all for a disappointing, three paragraph monolog.
Sorry lol but at least the space battle is great and Felicity is waifu. The robot is somewhat OK.
I honestly think the ultimate ending sequence is evocative. Not talking about Darth Vader for anyone who's seen it FYI
No joke, Admiral Radish is the best character in the entire Disney SW franchise. Chads right past the impotent female leadership of the rebels and actually has the gall to take the fight to the enemy.
And he has about ten minutes of screen time before he dies.
It's abundantly clear that at least two different people made that movie, it's so incredibly schizophrenic about tone and pacing.
I know I'm an EU fan so I am biased, but when they decided to do away with it you would think someone would say "you know those are some of the most hardcore fans, so maybe we should just continue those stories in a separate continuity while having our main canon".
I've seen so many Youtubers give their Sequel Trilogy ideas and they all sound a lot better than what we got. Heck if you just want to cater to the fans and do fan service..... have Luke be the one to catch that lightsabert in TFA and he runs of Kylo Ren who has defeated Rey.
I wonder if it’s even possible to satisfy the progressive white board while telling a good story. Some of those leftist requirements go beyond diversity casting and extend to plot and character requirements that are entirely at odds with good storytelling. It’s one thing to say “half or more of the people in every scene need to be female” and quite another to say “our female lead can never be shown demonstrating weakness or any negative character trait”.
I don't think wokeism can ever be satisfied
And can’t be mentored by a male
It is, but it requires a considerable amount of work and thought to be put into the holistic picture. You can't just write scenes then write the leadins to those in a string of lines like many productions do.
Which means you'd need one person with a good sense of self awareness working without executives constantly rewriting pieces (and thus disrupting the overall body). Leaving it impossible in practice to actually reach.
You could do a pretty good 'passing the torch' story by simply using the Thrawn Trilogy(with some allusions to Jedi Academy) with very few modifications.
Of course, if they wanted to go complete balls to the wall, simply use the Legacy comics and keep one particular characters heritage as a 'wham' moment.
Good point.
Interestingly enough, the KotOR MMO is the only piece of Legends still being worked on
I’ve heard that. Disney hasn’t poisoned it?
Now that I can’t speak to, I haven’t played since the year it came out - but I heard BioWare just handed off development / management of it to another company which doesn’t bode well
Its Bioware, so it has its own poison baked directly into it.
i really wanted to like it, but playing it was such a chore.