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posted 2 years ago by KnightOfTheRealm1152 2 years ago by KnightOfTheRealm1152 +64 / -0
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– Norenia 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0

They're never going to make California red. The only chance they'll have is if states start splitting because of clear evidence that the governing body is legislating benefit to the mega-urban cities and harm to the rural communities.

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– Smith1980 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Agreed. I live in Texas and I frequently worry about it flipping. Although I’m noticing a shift to red by a number of Hispanics.

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– elleand202 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Texas will not go blue for the same reason that California will never go red. Over a million California Republicans have moved out of state, mostly to Texas. It’s numerically impossible for Republicans to win in California now.

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– Smith1980 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That’s why I stopped getting mad about Californians moving here. I learned they were mostly Republicans fed up with California

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– alucard13mmfmj 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Problem is lets say north california splits and its red. It will eventually form its own liberal metro urban cities and the cycle starts again.

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– Imthrowing4 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Reasons why authoritarian, nationalist fascism is great

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– Assassin47 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It's become clear that the whole world needs to split off from the mega-urban cities. They are a foreign cancer occupying and tyrannizing people in the countryside that still follow their national values, whatever nation that is. To prevent the problem u/alucard13mmfmj brings up, there needs to be laws that reduce or completely eliminate the voting power of cities. For example electoral colleges. Or just say if your population density is over X sorry you don't get a vote in what happens.

Also get rid of "capitol cities" and make sure the government is distributed across random community centers and churches or run out of some guy's trailer.

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– MassivePecorino 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

.>Gruesome Newsome calls an Article V convention

.>Cali, New Yawk, Chiraq, Disastertown and New Jersey South don't like the results, but the other 64 states do.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Completely disagree, and u/Smith1980 's friends are right to try.

As the state's condition worsens, the red areas have to just actually use power to break up the institutional power of the cities, mostly by dissolving the cities institutions and bureaucracies. Frankly, a lot of these places could probably go red except for institutional corruption. It's just that the right doesn't know how to properly fight and conquer their opponents.

Look at Ohio and Florida. Both used to be swing states, now both are becoming blood red. The political maps in the US change, sometimes very hard. Hell, there hasn't been a "Solid South" in about 30 years, and it used to be a one-party state.

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– Smith1980 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You aren’t wrong. I guess it just seems an impossible task in California

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– one_angry_gamer 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Let’s see if your friends are willing to make some sacrifices. Because things will get a whole lot worse for them before it gets any better. And even if they somehow get a Republican in California, they still inherited a corrupted shithole.

u/Dekachin was right when he said “Americans vote with their feet”.

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