It was bad enough they changed his powers from being inherent to being technological or whatever the fuck. My Spider-Man has spinnerettes in his wrists, not some dumb techie shit.
They were technological from the very first issue Spiderman was introduced in. He had them before he even got bit even. The organic ones were created from the Raimi film nearly 40 years later, and were popular enough to briefly be back ported to the comics.
Yes. Part of the Peter Parker character was that he was a brilliant scientist and created the web shooters to complement the powers he got from the spider bite. Him running out of web fluid from time to time was a plot point in the older comics.
The very very original was created to help him in his pre-bite stuntman career he wanted to pursue, which he then modified to the spider gimmick.
Them being tech was more than just a reload plot point, as it also allowed him absurd fluidity with them in terms of what they could be made to do instead of just being sticky ropes. Which made his powers constantly evolving and developing, more befitting of a scientist hero than a brutish one who simply used the same powers but harder.
I'm not familiar with any pre Spider-Man stunt career. That must be a retcon added after I stopped reading in early 1990s. u/ernsithe posted the panel from Amazing Fantasy #15 where he invents them, using "liquid cement" with little explanation or fanfare:
So, they laughed at me for being a bookworm, eh? Well, only a science major could have created a device like this.
It made sense for them to take them out of the Raimi movie, as it would have added extra complication when they could just make it a part of his power set granted from the spider. It made equal sense to put it back in the Andrew Garfield film, as he stole most of the work from the lab with the spiders genetically modified to improve the strength of their webs. There was a much stronger science focus in that film.
Was still a mechanical device he made. Raimi's version was the first time a mainline Spiderman ever had organic ones. A few spinoffs like Spiderman Noir had the organic ones at times, but they were also a completely different origin story and person most of the time.
This is like how Superman originally just jumped really far instead of flying, it might technically have been the case in the beginning but it isn't canon for anybody but extreme purists. Superman flies, Spiderman has mechanical web shooters he fills with chemical web fluid, etc.
Spider-Man was published for 40 years before the added the organic web shooters to align the comic with the movie. No one who read the comic prior to 2002 would have seen them.
I realized afterward that the Spider-Man I'm referring would be the Filmation version ... the cheap-ass cartoon that was a staple in the 6-8 am Saturday morning slots.
"Toby is the better Peter, Andrew is the better Spider-Man" is how I've read the two described. For a lot of the points I'd agree since Andrew's Peter was a literal skater boy while Toby's was a far more bumbling nerd as early Peter should be.
Look at the two dunking sessions between the two. Tony vs Deathstroke has Peter say "I dont want to fight you, Flash" and Peter sounds extremely anxious about what is going to happen because he's still very unsure of what he can now do. During the fight Peter ends up reflexing his way into decking Flash, while Andrew vs whoever was playing Flash in that one is far more energetic and vociferous, traits more common with Spider-Man than Peter Parker.
I figured it would be a matter of time before marvel started pushing Miles. And then we get the Twitter weirdos who most likely never heard of him til the movie came out
It was bad enough they changed his powers from being inherent to being technological or whatever the fuck. My Spider-Man has spinnerettes in his wrists, not some dumb techie shit.
They were technological from the very first issue Spiderman was introduced in. He had them before he even got bit even. The organic ones were created from the Raimi film nearly 40 years later, and were popular enough to briefly be back ported to the comics.
Yes. Part of the Peter Parker character was that he was a brilliant scientist and created the web shooters to complement the powers he got from the spider bite. Him running out of web fluid from time to time was a plot point in the older comics.
The very very original was created to help him in his pre-bite stuntman career he wanted to pursue, which he then modified to the spider gimmick.
Them being tech was more than just a reload plot point, as it also allowed him absurd fluidity with them in terms of what they could be made to do instead of just being sticky ropes. Which made his powers constantly evolving and developing, more befitting of a scientist hero than a brutish one who simply used the same powers but harder.
I'm not familiar with any pre Spider-Man stunt career. That must be a retcon added after I stopped reading in early 1990s. u/ernsithe posted the panel from Amazing Fantasy #15 where he invents them, using "liquid cement" with little explanation or fanfare:
It made sense for them to take them out of the Raimi movie, as it would have added extra complication when they could just make it a part of his power set granted from the spider. It made equal sense to put it back in the Andrew Garfield film, as he stole most of the work from the lab with the spiders genetically modified to improve the strength of their webs. There was a much stronger science focus in that film.
How about the Filmation version?
Was still a mechanical device he made. Raimi's version was the first time a mainline Spiderman ever had organic ones. A few spinoffs like Spiderman Noir had the organic ones at times, but they were also a completely different origin story and person most of the time.
Really? I always thought he got everything from the spider bite.
Pooh. I like the idea of his crap being organic better. It's no more weird or stupid than the Hulk being what he is from fucking "gamma rays".
This is like how Superman originally just jumped really far instead of flying, it might technically have been the case in the beginning but it isn't canon for anybody but extreme purists. Superman flies, Spiderman has mechanical web shooters he fills with chemical web fluid, etc.
Spider-Man was published for 40 years before the added the organic web shooters to align the comic with the movie. No one who read the comic prior to 2002 would have seen them.
Filmation version.
I realized afterward that the Spider-Man I'm referring would be the Filmation version ... the cheap-ass cartoon that was a staple in the 6-8 am Saturday morning slots.
That, and Tobey Maguire is no Peter Parker.
In No Way Home, I still thought that he was one of the best parts of the movie, along with Garfield.
"Toby is the better Peter, Andrew is the better Spider-Man" is how I've read the two described. For a lot of the points I'd agree since Andrew's Peter was a literal skater boy while Toby's was a far more bumbling nerd as early Peter should be.
Look at the two dunking sessions between the two. Tony vs Deathstroke has Peter say "I dont want to fight you, Flash" and Peter sounds extremely anxious about what is going to happen because he's still very unsure of what he can now do. During the fight Peter ends up reflexing his way into decking Flash, while Andrew vs whoever was playing Flash in that one is far more energetic and vociferous, traits more common with Spider-Man than Peter Parker.
I figured it would be a matter of time before marvel started pushing Miles. And then we get the Twitter weirdos who most likely never heard of him til the movie came out
Even when they have none of them realise Miles is the child of an interracial relationship. His dad is black, his mother is hispanic.
That’s true. Also meant to say movie, not comic.
BTW, I realized I was thinking of the Filmation Spider-Man. I watched the hell out of that as a kid.