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JUST NOW: Iowa voter tells Trump "we have lost people because you supported the jab." Trump responds by praising the COVID mRNA shots, doesn't acknowledge any of the adverse effects. (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 3 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +34 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

He still is unwilling to accept reality that the entire GOP base hates the COVID vax with a passion.

Old orange man, how many times do we have to teach you this lesson?

Take the L on Operation WarpSpeed and stop praising these clotshots.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Trump and his 2024 campaign team clearly doesn't have the nuance required to craft an answer that threads the needle like you suggested.

He currently just says, "we did something that no one has done before and that many people say the vax was a good thing." This is an infuriating answer that will NOT fly with the GOP base.

Trump's lack of humility and his lack of nuance will hurt him with the base on this issue.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I think different GOP base voters will react differently to this key issue.

To anyone who lost their jobs or almost lost their jobs over the vax or to people who suffered an adverse reaction or had a loved one suffer an adverse reaction, this issue actually really matters.

Trump's current COVID answers makes one realize that he has sadly not learned anything from his mistakes in 2020.

If he actually somehow wins a general election again and he is faced with governing over a pandemic, he clearly would make the same mistakes again. I don't trust Donald Trump to handle it differently.

He will likely create an Operation WarpSpeed again for some new poison vaxes and he will listen to the corrupt experts again and lockdown the country.

Trump's one Achilles heel in this primary is his abysmal handling of COVID and his refusal to acknowledge he made a mistake at all. How would you expect him to handle a future pandemic if he doesn't admit what to change?

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– CanuckElhead 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

This entire thing is one massive sword of damocles hanging over the guys head. If general opinion ever sways on the vax its gonna be a grisly drop and you just know it'll be the 'trump vaccine' again in the blink of an eye.

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– dagthegnome 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

That will only happen if the MSM takes that line and they won't, because there's too much money invested in the pro-vax narrative for them to waver on it now, even to get one over on Trump.

Some people in the Blazes and Daily Wires of the world are trying to use the vax to undermine Trump, when Ben Shapiro especially was one of the biggest pro-vax voices on the "right" up until a year ago. It's all completely disingenuous. The issue is not the vax for any of these people. The issue is Trump.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Ben Shapiro is a neo-con shill. What do you expect from him?

My primary issue with Trump 2024 is his vehement refusal to accept that he made critical errors during COVID.

I don't care what the kosher conservatives do here, I just want to actually hold Trump accountable for his actions during COVID so he learns to never repeat them in the chance he becomes the nominee and miraculously somehow wins a general election again and governs during another pandemic.

Not everyone who wants Trump to change his stance on the vax is a neo-con bad actor.

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– dagthegnome 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I don't believe you.

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There's no reason why it wouldn't happen. At this point TPTB are mostly trying to pretend that absolutely nothing happened from early 2020 to late 2022. The cash cow is dead now, our betters have made their trillions, so there's no reason to not bring it back from the dead and use it to badger Cheeto Hitler. The goyim won't give a shit, they live in a perpetual present, they already forgot everything that happened, so they'll just nod and hum while the talking heads tell them that Le Drumpf's deadly shots killed grandma and caused the planet to melt. Shit, they'll read the articles on their phones while waiting in line for their 3rd mRNA booster against Winter Vagina-induced pericarditis, and they'll believe every single word.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

So the two big contestants are "We kept Florida open-ish, kinda, now let's pander with empty platitudes to random third-world nations" and "Vaxxmaster Trump, he brings the vaxx whether you want it or not"?

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

The options are between an arrogant New York billionaire who loves to brag about fast tracking the COVID vaxes versus the conservative Gov of Florida who actually admitted he initially made a mistake on lockdowning during COVID and then he became the bulwark against all COVID authoritarianism and mandates.

Ron DeSantis's policy platform is substantive and focuses on fighting wokeism, fighting COVID authoritarianism, U.S. energy independence and securing the border.

He is not about pandering to random third world countries. You seem to have him mixed up with Ted Cruz who was recently crying about an anti-homo law in Uganda?

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– user20461 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Trump is a cult, no reason he should have any followers if his supporters still believed in his original campaign promises.

And don't trust 95% of politicians who run for president. That is the most controlled position in all of the US. My 5% of those I'd trust would be Ron Paul, Thomas Massie, and Rand Paul, in that order. And I don't expect them to get anything done, but I do think they'd veto virtually everything that comes out of Congress.

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