So, you lie about "melting down over DeSantis running for President" when he's clearly identifying a personal grievance with how he's been treated.
And of course, that response is legitimate because you all have been smearing him publicly for weeks in whatever manner you had available to you, you're upset he's telling you to go fuck yourself?
Why am I supposed to care that he hates you for how you treat him?
By the way, a lot of people are saying that announcement went poorly. I personally don't care how his announcement went, I'm not really surprised if it did because he's always had some public speaking issues, but you're attempt to deflect the poor performance with an attack on a pollster is pretty telling.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, but it's definitely not a meltdown. It isnt hard to understand the logic. Just about anyone with an above room temperature IQ knows that Biden is an establishment stooge. Whereas DeSantis has fooled a ton of people into thinking he's not Bush lite.
If DeSantis, who banned grooming in schools, smashed Disney, banned vaccine and mask mandates, opposed regime change in Syria, is "Bush lite", then I guess this Bush is an amazingly good fellow.
Yes, he has skeletons in his closet. And it may well be that he will revert to his own neocon self once he is in office. There is no way of knowing, which is why I prefer Trump (even though he was practically useless on neoconism beyond starting no new wars). But he's doing and saying everything (mostly) right at the moment.
If you openly say that you support a proven establishment stooge over someone who may not be completely perfect, then yes, I count that as a meltdown.
If DeSantis, who banned grooming in schools, smashed Disney, banned vaccine and mask mandates, opposed regime change in Syria, is "Bush lite", then I guess this Bush is an amazingly good fellow.
Extremely naive. These are all good things, but as the pieces come together it's getting clearer and clearer that these are very calculated moves to try and take the party back for the establishment. Would love nothing more than to be wrong, and even just a few months ago I still had some optimism remaining, but even just seeing who comes out of the woodwork to back him should be enough to make people extremely wary.
I agree that he's obviously better than Biden though, but there is a very real danger of dissipating the populist sentiment that has built up over the past decade if enough people think they've "won" if DeSantis wins. He won't though so it's a moot point unless orange man has a stroke or the CIA nails him JFK style. That being said, I don't blame Baris for being extremely bitter when they made it very personal for him.
These are all good things, but as the pieces come together it's getting clearer and clearer that these are very calculated moves to try and take the party back for the establishment.
Maybe, but like I said, I'm with Trump. I just don't think that Desantis is as bad as people make him out to be, let alone bad enough to justify not supporting him or voting for a senile imbecile.
but even just seeing who comes out of the woodwork to back him should be enough to make people extremely wary.
Eh, Trump has his backers as well. Lindsey Graham being one. He probably doesn't agree with Trump on foreign policy, so I guess he wants to support Trump to retain his influence with Trump to make sure he does absolutely nothing contrary to what neocons want.
but there is a very real danger of dissipating the populist sentiment that has built up over the past decade if enough people think they've "won" if DeSantis wins.
But the same is true if Trump wins, not?
This is more an argument against cult-like following of an idiot politician than against DeSantis.
In fact, DeSantis may be better, because he has to earn their support rather than take it for granted like Trump.
That being said, I don't blame Baris for being extremely bitter when they made it very personal for him.
There's never any justification to put private grievance ahead of the public good.
Over what though? Not DeSantis running. Over DeSantis shills trying to shit up his life and actually harass him.
Baris is a bit of a sensitive soul, I could tell from listening to one and only one podcast. I'm not surprised he has reacted bitterly for people trying to use his past as a weapon to smear him and destroy his career because his poll numbers aren't coming out they way they want.
I don't like YouGov's polls either, but I don't autistically screech and try to destroy people's lives.
I am willing to vote for Trump if he unfortunately becomes the nominee even though at this point I absolutely despise the psychotic mess that Trump has turned into.
This should speak volumes in terms of our current situation.
Baris is unable to see the bigger picture if he is going to essentially endorse fucking Biden over DeSantis.
Baris's polling record has been poor in the last two cycles and that is undeniable.
Frankly since Baris hates DeSantis like this, it is clear that he will not be able to poll the 2024 GOP primary fairly.
The DeSantis Twitter space suffered technical difficulties at the start thanks to Twitter servers being unable to keep up with the large demand of people joining the space. This is a suffering from success type of problem.
DeSantis had a lengthy discussion of actual policy that would be sadly impossible for Trump to replicate. DeSantis is a man who can tell you why Chevron deference is a huge mistake with regards to the administrative state. You ask Trump about Chevron deference and he will tell you about how oil companies did well under Trump. Trump has a sheer lack of knowledge concerning the details that matter.
DeSantis's launch and Baris's dumb comments are unrelated.
I am just disappointed in the type of man Richard Baris has revealed himself to be.
I am willing to vote for Trump if he unfortunately becomes the nominee even though at this point I absolutely despise the psychotic mess that Trump has turned into.
Lol are you doing the Trump is insane routine libs loved to do when he was president?
Trump is just trolling social media again, the only difference it's that it's working on you this time. We saw what he looked like at the CNN presser. He's fine.
Remember, this is the guy that called Ben Carson a homicidal basket case and implied he was a pedophile. Ben had incredibly thick skin and went on to accept a Cabinet post, but it's the same Trump.
B, it's not a disgrace, it's exactly what he's done for the past six years. I didn't care then and I don't care now.
DeSantis can speak in acceptable boardroom tones and that's all well and good. But I find it amusing that you can't stand Trump for the same reason all our Republican upper-middle class buffoons can't stand him: he doesn't talk all edumacated! it's beneath the office!!
Poor results are the only thing that's beneath the office and the only thing that gives me pause about Trump is his position on vaccines and Disney.
I have listed my grievances against Trump many times:
Operation WarpSpeed and handing the country to Fauci
Failing to stop or crackdown on BLM riots
Failing to stop the Dems from flooding the 2020 election with mail in ballots
Terrible personnel selection choices throughout his Presidency
Terrible endorsements during 2022 midterms
Trump's retarded tone is not what makes me dislike him as the nominee, it is the poor results that Trump is responsible for that make me a strong proponent of DeSantis 2024.
Notice how he downvotes your replies immediately, even jokes. Like someone on the other post said, these DeSantis shills(?) have no sense of humor, much like TDS people on the Left. Honestly this guy's comments (not necessarily the posts) have given me a more negative view of the governor's campaign than anything else. I'm glad DeSantis does not actually support or condone the content of this sycophant's messages. From what others are suggesting he's not going to directly engage or attack Trump which is probably for the best.
DeSantis clearly has bad advisers around him. Trump... well... I don't know if Trump has advisers at the moment, for better and worse. NFT's are a joke, until he raises a million dollars off of them. ... you scummy little handed, devious, capitalist, shit. Fucker would bring back Trump steaks in a heart beat, I swear. Bastard should just come out with a brand Orange Juice at this point.
"ORANGE MAN BAD JUICE. Literally made from Liberal Tears."
But DeSantis seems to be running with a litany of advisers who are all corporately approved, and seem to be just as ignorant and out of touch as everyone else inside the belt-way. He's better without their help.
Which brings me to the strategy behind this shilling. This feels like some Mike Bloomberg style efforts at shilling and infiltration. It's unnecessary and damaging, but I get an ugly feeling... that it's supposed to be. I think DeSantis's advisers are trying to sink both campaigns. Luckily, DeSantis is so badly advised it might be hurting him more than hurting both.
The good news is that I genuinely think that DeSantis, like Rubio and Cruz, will recover just fine. Frankly, I don't think that the Neo-Con & Dem advisers understand that the Republican party wants to see a test of strength. The Republicans aren't looking for a feel-good convention where the establish tells us who's been the best little boy with a shot at the brass ring. We want to see someone actually win, so that we can rally around them.
I've said it before. Thank god our enemies are so stupid, or we'd already be dead.
Baris doesn't hate DeSantis as much as he hates... well... you. The DeSantis shills.
He has an understanding of the bigger picture, you just disagree with his assessment. His polling record has been good enough as far as I've seen. Voter fraud does cause a nasty 5-10 point swing.
The DeSantis Twitter space suffered technical difficulties at the start thanks to Twitter servers being unable to keep up with the large demand of people joining the space. This is a suffering from success type of problem.
Bullshit. This is a bad argument. Twitter spaces have handled millions of users before. Re-frame this as "focusing on the wrong thing". Say, "the media is trying to direct everyone's attention to the technical glitch in order to pressure politicians into thinking that Twitter and Alt-Media is a bad place to make announcements. Don't fall for the deflection."
Baris's polls are worthless and if you still believe in them I feel sorry for you.
You cannot use muh election fraud to explain away why Baris predicted emphatically that Kemp would absolutely lose. Baris said only clown Vernon Jones could beat Stacy Abrams. Jones lost a primary for a Trumpy area house seat. Vernon Jones is Baris's friend so Baris hyped him up.
You are a poster who makes some very intelligent analysis. I have even been impressed by some of your posts.
You have a blindspot with any matters concerning Trump. You live in an imaginary world where Trump is surrounded by competent people and is loved by the majority of Americans.
That is not reality.
Independents despise Trump and Trump is surrounded by grifters like Roger Stone, Alex Bruesewitz, Richard Baris and Robert Barnes.
I don't trust anything you have to say on polls since the time you told me JD Vance was carried by Mike DeWine. Especially for a seat that was already held by Rob Portman who was an Evangelical, but a Neo-Con that people were already getting weary of.
Everyone in Ohio knows DeWine is a cuckold, but they weren't going to vote for a Democratic governor or Senator at this point. He was so fucking weak that he instituted a state-wide Covid curfew that nobody followed and the police eventually just refused to enforce. It tells me you're either ignorant of Ohio politics, or you are just rationalizing. His failure in East Palestine is still outstanding, where as both Trump and Vance made it a political focus, with zero help from DeWine.
You have a blindspot with any matters concerning Trump. You live in an imaginary world where Trump is surrounded by competent people and is loved by the majority of Americans.
I defy you to show me where I've ever said that. Trump is surrounded mostly by people competing for attention, and then he picks what's in front of him. It's an old way of doing business when you're a real-estate mogul building towers: you get already competent people competing for your money and attention. Unfortunately, the pre-supposition for his strategy was competence by default. No one in DC wants to work with him, and most want to cut his fucking throat, so the most competent cabinet members he had either came from the military, or were named Betsy DeVoss.
Trump is loved by 50% of his own base. Most Trump supporters support him as an avatar of their will. They aren't devoted to him specifically, but they see him as the only representation of what they want in a broken system. It is a genuine populist movement. Of the remaining 50% there's a minority that are die-hard Trump-Or-Die voters, and DeSantis doesn't have what it takes to keep them.
Baris and Barnes are not grifters. Certainly Barnes isn't. He's an attorney who likes throwing punches in public because it's an avenue of the law that most attorneys are neither good at, nor interested in. However, he's known for decades that it can be a good mechanism to use political and public pressure to counter some dirty tricks done by judges and prosecutors. Sometimes Barnes is a stubborn and as mean as a mule, but that because the strategy works, even if I disagree.
JD Vance vastly underperformed RINO Mike DeWine and that is sadly a fact.
For the record I despise DeWine for his COVID policies but he performed very strongly in comparison to Vance.
The facts don't change just because we both hate DeWine.
I prefer Vance over DeWine anyday in policies but when it comes to campaigning Vance was pretty lazy. Vance would have only narrowly won against Tim Ryan if DeWine was not on the ballot with him.
If it was Vance vs Sherrod Brown, Vance likely would have lost looking at his subpar performance in 2022.
I disagree entirely with your view of Barnes and Baris. Both of these men rely on Trump staying relevant for their meal ticket. They are both bottom-feeders who will do and say anything to prop up Trump to keep their grift going.
Where you and I vastly differ is that I have no patience for clowns who are OnlyTrump.
I pretty much hate the current version of Trump we see now and yet I still will begrudgingly vote for him over Biden. I expect the same from everyone on the right. That is not asking for much. Support whoever you want in the primaries and unite for the general.
I despise the OnlyTrumpers because they are retards who will destroy our country over their misguided cultism for Trump.
I know Vance under-preformed, and I know why. I didn't even know he was running, that's how badly the Republican establishment ran the campaign. I saw hundreds of "Taxing Tim Ryan" ads, and no one said a fucking word that the dude who wrote "Hillbilly Eulogy" was running for Senate. They tried to throw the race, just like they tried to throw Boebert's race, Lake's race, everyone's fucking race. It was a purge.
I disagree entirely with your view of Barnes and Baris. Both of these men rely on Trump staying relevant for their meal ticket. They are both bottom-feeders who will do and say anything to prop up Trump to keep their grift going.
You clearly don't know anything about Barnes. At this point, his biggest meal ticket is Robert Kennedy, whom he's both representing in court, and also advertising relentlessly for the Democratic nomination. This is because Barnes is not a MAGA chud. He's an anti-establishment Lefty. He has more in common with Glen Greenwald than Tim Pool, Steven Crowder, or Jack Posobiec.
Support whoever you want in the primaries and unite for the general.
I think I'm a registered Libertarian, but if I could vote, it would go for Larry Elder.
Whether you prefer Trump over DeSantis or DeSantis over Trump, saying you prefer Biden over either is outright idiocy...for that matter, I'd prefer a used tampon over Biden.
You can be strongly Trump 2024 for the primaries and you can be strongly DeSantis 2024 for the primaries. Once the primaries finish, we must unite.
If you claim to be on the right and you are saying that you want a second Biden term over Trump or DeSantis, you are outing yourself as the biggest of retards.
Clawing victory from the Cathedral is the only real option available to us.
Being okay with a second Biden term is merely cementing a permanent spiritual, financial and moral decline from which it would be impossible to rebuild America.
2024 is the last stand. We must do all we can defeat Biden and in the worst case scenario we fail in preventing that second term we must at least prevent a Democrat tri-fecta by taking over the Senate.
A Biden tri-fecta in 2024 means the Dems destroy the filibuster and pack the Supreme Court, they make D.C. and Puerto Rico into new states, they codify Roe and they institute permanent Dem rule.
Yes, I know for me it is Trump cultists who are doing it.
They despise any criticism of their buffoon leader.
I even said I would actually vote for Trump if he became the nominee. Apparently that is not enough for these retards. They expect me to worship Trump like they do.
What is it with DeSantis people and using the word "grifter" as a fill in for "person I dont like." This tweet demonstrates that this trend transcends just this board.
Baris has had some of the best polling for many cycles now. Just cause you're butthurt that he still likes Trump doesn't make him a grifter.
2022 wasn't the best for him for sure. Whatever his methods are have not been able adequately account for ballot harvesting and other recent changes in voting methodology that have taken place in certain districts. Cherry picking that to say he is a grifter is beyond retarded considering his long record of being better than essentially any mainstream pollster (admittedly not the highest bar), and I think you know that deep down. But then again, you're the chief DeSimp here so anyone who doesn't agree with you and has a following is a grifter.
I've been through this with you before but I'll say it again for the peanut gallery. It doesnt take an orange man fanatic to notice how much of a DeSantis shill you are. I recognize a ton of usernames around here, but only two elicit an exasperated sigh whenever I see it in my replies, yours and Imp. That's how much of a meme you've become.
As people here know, I constantly criticize Trump for his various failings but if he becomes the nominee in 2024 I will unenthusiastically still vote for Trump in the general while holding my nose because I understand that preventing a Biden second term is crucial to the survival of America.
Even the completely deranged and pathetic version of Trump we all see today would still be better than a Biden second term.
I am absolutely voting DeSantis in the primaries but I will support the GOP candidate regardless of whether it is either DeSantis or Trump.
OnlyTrumper cultists like Baris are shortsighted clowns if they don't see how important it is to prevent a second Biden term.
For the record Baris is not even a competent pollster these days.
Richard Baris's polls were terribly off in terms of accuracy in the 2020 and 2022 election cycles.
He predicted that Kemp would have no shot of winning GA governor if he won the primary. Kemp soundly beat Stacy Abrams.
He claimed that Duarte would lose the House seat because he was mad that his friend Giglio lost the primary to Duarte. Duarte won the general election.
Baris claimed Herschel Walker would guaranteed win if he just made it to a run-off. Walker lost the runoff.
Baris has decided to go full clown. Sad to see this happen to a guy I looked at for some polling information.
Fuck meatball desantis. He is supported by old ballsack face and rino scum like paul ryan and bush. Hes a backstabbing globalist scum who wants more money for ukraine, destroyed the 1st ammendment in florida while in israel, and refuses to do his job as florida govenor instead backstabbing florida and trump.
Id rather youngkin or if it gets desantis vs biden ill plug nose and give biden the vote since desantis betrayed us while biden was honest that hes a traitorous commie
So, you lie about "melting down over DeSantis running for President" when he's clearly identifying a personal grievance with how he's been treated.
And of course, that response is legitimate because you all have been smearing him publicly for weeks in whatever manner you had available to you, you're upset he's telling you to go fuck yourself?
Why am I supposed to care that he hates you for how you treat him?
By the way, a lot of people are saying that announcement went poorly. I personally don't care how his announcement went, I'm not really surprised if it did because he's always had some public speaking issues, but you're attempt to deflect the poor performance with an attack on a pollster is pretty telling.
It's no stretch that saying that you prefer Biden over DeSantis is a massive, unadulterated meltdown.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, but it's definitely not a meltdown. It isnt hard to understand the logic. Just about anyone with an above room temperature IQ knows that Biden is an establishment stooge. Whereas DeSantis has fooled a ton of people into thinking he's not Bush lite.
If DeSantis, who banned grooming in schools, smashed Disney, banned vaccine and mask mandates, opposed regime change in Syria, is "Bush lite", then I guess this Bush is an amazingly good fellow.
Yes, he has skeletons in his closet. And it may well be that he will revert to his own neocon self once he is in office. There is no way of knowing, which is why I prefer Trump (even though he was practically useless on neoconism beyond starting no new wars). But he's doing and saying everything (mostly) right at the moment.
If you openly say that you support a proven establishment stooge over someone who may not be completely perfect, then yes, I count that as a meltdown.
Extremely naive. These are all good things, but as the pieces come together it's getting clearer and clearer that these are very calculated moves to try and take the party back for the establishment. Would love nothing more than to be wrong, and even just a few months ago I still had some optimism remaining, but even just seeing who comes out of the woodwork to back him should be enough to make people extremely wary.
I agree that he's obviously better than Biden though, but there is a very real danger of dissipating the populist sentiment that has built up over the past decade if enough people think they've "won" if DeSantis wins. He won't though so it's a moot point unless orange man has a stroke or the CIA nails him JFK style. That being said, I don't blame Baris for being extremely bitter when they made it very personal for him.
Maybe, but like I said, I'm with Trump. I just don't think that Desantis is as bad as people make him out to be, let alone bad enough to justify not supporting him or voting for a senile imbecile.
Eh, Trump has his backers as well. Lindsey Graham being one. He probably doesn't agree with Trump on foreign policy, so I guess he wants to support Trump to retain his influence with Trump to make sure he does absolutely nothing contrary to what neocons want.
But the same is true if Trump wins, not?
This is more an argument against cult-like following of an idiot politician than against DeSantis.
In fact, DeSantis may be better, because he has to earn their support rather than take it for granted like Trump.
There's never any justification to put private grievance ahead of the public good.
Over what though? Not DeSantis running. Over DeSantis shills trying to shit up his life and actually harass him.
Baris is a bit of a sensitive soul, I could tell from listening to one and only one podcast. I'm not surprised he has reacted bitterly for people trying to use his past as a weapon to smear him and destroy his career because his poll numbers aren't coming out they way they want.
I don't like YouGov's polls either, but I don't autistically screech and try to destroy people's lives.
I am willing to vote for Trump if he unfortunately becomes the nominee even though at this point I absolutely despise the psychotic mess that Trump has turned into.
This should speak volumes in terms of our current situation.
Baris is unable to see the bigger picture if he is going to essentially endorse fucking Biden over DeSantis.
Baris's polling record has been poor in the last two cycles and that is undeniable.
Frankly since Baris hates DeSantis like this, it is clear that he will not be able to poll the 2024 GOP primary fairly.
The DeSantis Twitter space suffered technical difficulties at the start thanks to Twitter servers being unable to keep up with the large demand of people joining the space. This is a suffering from success type of problem.
DeSantis had a lengthy discussion of actual policy that would be sadly impossible for Trump to replicate. DeSantis is a man who can tell you why Chevron deference is a huge mistake with regards to the administrative state. You ask Trump about Chevron deference and he will tell you about how oil companies did well under Trump. Trump has a sheer lack of knowledge concerning the details that matter.
DeSantis's launch and Baris's dumb comments are unrelated.
I am just disappointed in the type of man Richard Baris has revealed himself to be.
Lol are you doing the Trump is insane routine libs loved to do when he was president?
When this is what Trump is currently posting, it is clear he is losing it. https://twitter.com/RenoCiccotta/status/1661523012535951360
Trump is just trolling social media again, the only difference it's that it's working on you this time. We saw what he looked like at the CNN presser. He's fine.
Remember, this is the guy that called Ben Carson a homicidal basket case and implied he was a pedophile. Ben had incredibly thick skin and went on to accept a Cabinet post, but it's the same Trump.
edit: the context for the tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992
Trump is calling back to this and saying that Kim Jong Un is going to be buddies with him again when he's running foreign policy.
Try to rationalize this insanity away anyway you want but this kind of stupidity is an absolute disgrace for a former President.
I will begrudgingly vote for this idiotic buffoon in the general over Biden if he makes it there.
I prefer we nominate someone sane and competent like DeSantis instead
A, it's not insanity
B, it's not a disgrace, it's exactly what he's done for the past six years. I didn't care then and I don't care now.
DeSantis can speak in acceptable boardroom tones and that's all well and good. But I find it amusing that you can't stand Trump for the same reason all our Republican upper-middle class buffoons can't stand him: he doesn't talk all edumacated! it's beneath the office!!
Poor results are the only thing that's beneath the office and the only thing that gives me pause about Trump is his position on vaccines and Disney.
I have listed my grievances against Trump many times:
Trump's retarded tone is not what makes me dislike him as the nominee, it is the poor results that Trump is responsible for that make me a strong proponent of DeSantis 2024.
Everything Trump does is 943-dimensional chess.
He only lost so that he'd come back stronker 4 years afterwards.
Frankly I think you're looking far too hard into this. It's obvious that covfeve
Notice how he downvotes your replies immediately, even jokes. Like someone on the other post said, these DeSantis shills(?) have no sense of humor, much like TDS people on the Left. Honestly this guy's comments (not necessarily the posts) have given me a more negative view of the governor's campaign than anything else. I'm glad DeSantis does not actually support or condone the content of this sycophant's messages. From what others are suggesting he's not going to directly engage or attack Trump which is probably for the best.
I want to understand the greater strategy here.
DeSantis clearly has bad advisers around him. Trump... well... I don't know if Trump has advisers at the moment, for better and worse. NFT's are a joke, until he raises a million dollars off of them. ... you scummy little handed, devious, capitalist, shit. Fucker would bring back Trump steaks in a heart beat, I swear. Bastard should just come out with a brand Orange Juice at this point.
"ORANGE MAN BAD JUICE. Literally made from Liberal Tears."
But DeSantis seems to be running with a litany of advisers who are all corporately approved, and seem to be just as ignorant and out of touch as everyone else inside the belt-way. He's better without their help.
Which brings me to the strategy behind this shilling. This feels like some Mike Bloomberg style efforts at shilling and infiltration. It's unnecessary and damaging, but I get an ugly feeling... that it's supposed to be. I think DeSantis's advisers are trying to sink both campaigns. Luckily, DeSantis is so badly advised it might be hurting him more than hurting both.
The good news is that I genuinely think that DeSantis, like Rubio and Cruz, will recover just fine. Frankly, I don't think that the Neo-Con & Dem advisers understand that the Republican party wants to see a test of strength. The Republicans aren't looking for a feel-good convention where the establish tells us who's been the best little boy with a shot at the brass ring. We want to see someone actually win, so that we can rally around them.
I've said it before. Thank god our enemies are so stupid, or we'd already be dead.
Holy shit someone get this pede a coat that's brilliant. 🤣
Someone needs to suggest it to him if they can figure out how to get on Truth because I sure as hell couldn't.
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Baris doesn't hate DeSantis as much as he hates... well... you. The DeSantis shills.
He has an understanding of the bigger picture, you just disagree with his assessment. His polling record has been good enough as far as I've seen. Voter fraud does cause a nasty 5-10 point swing.
Bullshit. This is a bad argument. Twitter spaces have handled millions of users before. Re-frame this as "focusing on the wrong thing". Say, "the media is trying to direct everyone's attention to the technical glitch in order to pressure politicians into thinking that Twitter and Alt-Media is a bad place to make announcements. Don't fall for the deflection."
You're welcome.
This is some weapons grade coping.
Baris's polls are worthless and if you still believe in them I feel sorry for you.
You cannot use muh election fraud to explain away why Baris predicted emphatically that Kemp would absolutely lose. Baris said only clown Vernon Jones could beat Stacy Abrams. Jones lost a primary for a Trumpy area house seat. Vernon Jones is Baris's friend so Baris hyped him up.
You are a poster who makes some very intelligent analysis. I have even been impressed by some of your posts.
You have a blindspot with any matters concerning Trump. You live in an imaginary world where Trump is surrounded by competent people and is loved by the majority of Americans.
That is not reality.
Independents despise Trump and Trump is surrounded by grifters like Roger Stone, Alex Bruesewitz, Richard Baris and Robert Barnes.
I don't trust anything you have to say on polls since the time you told me JD Vance was carried by Mike DeWine. Especially for a seat that was already held by Rob Portman who was an Evangelical, but a Neo-Con that people were already getting weary of.
Everyone in Ohio knows DeWine is a cuckold, but they weren't going to vote for a Democratic governor or Senator at this point. He was so fucking weak that he instituted a state-wide Covid curfew that nobody followed and the police eventually just refused to enforce. It tells me you're either ignorant of Ohio politics, or you are just rationalizing. His failure in East Palestine is still outstanding, where as both Trump and Vance made it a political focus, with zero help from DeWine.
I defy you to show me where I've ever said that. Trump is surrounded mostly by people competing for attention, and then he picks what's in front of him. It's an old way of doing business when you're a real-estate mogul building towers: you get already competent people competing for your money and attention. Unfortunately, the pre-supposition for his strategy was competence by default. No one in DC wants to work with him, and most want to cut his fucking throat, so the most competent cabinet members he had either came from the military, or were named Betsy DeVoss.
Trump is loved by 50% of his own base. Most Trump supporters support him as an avatar of their will. They aren't devoted to him specifically, but they see him as the only representation of what they want in a broken system. It is a genuine populist movement. Of the remaining 50% there's a minority that are die-hard Trump-Or-Die voters, and DeSantis doesn't have what it takes to keep them.
Baris and Barnes are not grifters. Certainly Barnes isn't. He's an attorney who likes throwing punches in public because it's an avenue of the law that most attorneys are neither good at, nor interested in. However, he's known for decades that it can be a good mechanism to use political and public pressure to counter some dirty tricks done by judges and prosecutors. Sometimes Barnes is a stubborn and as mean as a mule, but that because the strategy works, even if I disagree.
JD Vance vastly underperformed RINO Mike DeWine and that is sadly a fact.
For the record I despise DeWine for his COVID policies but he performed very strongly in comparison to Vance.
The facts don't change just because we both hate DeWine.
I prefer Vance over DeWine anyday in policies but when it comes to campaigning Vance was pretty lazy. Vance would have only narrowly won against Tim Ryan if DeWine was not on the ballot with him.
If it was Vance vs Sherrod Brown, Vance likely would have lost looking at his subpar performance in 2022.
I disagree entirely with your view of Barnes and Baris. Both of these men rely on Trump staying relevant for their meal ticket. They are both bottom-feeders who will do and say anything to prop up Trump to keep their grift going.
Where you and I vastly differ is that I have no patience for clowns who are OnlyTrump.
I pretty much hate the current version of Trump we see now and yet I still will begrudgingly vote for him over Biden. I expect the same from everyone on the right. That is not asking for much. Support whoever you want in the primaries and unite for the general.
I despise the OnlyTrumpers because they are retards who will destroy our country over their misguided cultism for Trump.
I know Vance under-preformed, and I know why. I didn't even know he was running, that's how badly the Republican establishment ran the campaign. I saw hundreds of "Taxing Tim Ryan" ads, and no one said a fucking word that the dude who wrote "Hillbilly Eulogy" was running for Senate. They tried to throw the race, just like they tried to throw Boebert's race, Lake's race, everyone's fucking race. It was a purge.
You clearly don't know anything about Barnes. At this point, his biggest meal ticket is Robert Kennedy, whom he's both representing in court, and also advertising relentlessly for the Democratic nomination. This is because Barnes is not a MAGA chud. He's an anti-establishment Lefty. He has more in common with Glen Greenwald than Tim Pool, Steven Crowder, or Jack Posobiec.
I think I'm a registered Libertarian, but if I could vote, it would go for Larry Elder.
Whether you prefer Trump over DeSantis or DeSantis over Trump, saying you prefer Biden over either is outright idiocy...for that matter, I'd prefer a used tampon over Biden.
This is my entire point.
You can be strongly Trump 2024 for the primaries and you can be strongly DeSantis 2024 for the primaries. Once the primaries finish, we must unite.
If you claim to be on the right and you are saying that you want a second Biden term over Trump or DeSantis, you are outing yourself as the biggest of retards.
Sad to see Baris do this.
I am open to two possibilities: collapse while I am young enough to aid in the recovery, or clawing victory back out of the jaws of big GAE.
What I cannot tolerate is someone who's seeking office to lose more gracefully than his predecessors.
Clawing victory from the Cathedral is the only real option available to us.
Being okay with a second Biden term is merely cementing a permanent spiritual, financial and moral decline from which it would be impossible to rebuild America.
2024 is the last stand. We must do all we can defeat Biden and in the worst case scenario we fail in preventing that second term we must at least prevent a Democrat tri-fecta by taking over the Senate.
A Biden tri-fecta in 2024 means the Dems destroy the filibuster and pack the Supreme Court, they make D.C. and Puerto Rico into new states, they codify Roe and they institute permanent Dem rule.
Do you have a bunch of stalkers like the Imp downvoting everything that you post, no matter how reasonable?
More like there's people here that see phrases like "spiritual decline" and "rebuild America" and revert to turn-of-the-century automatons.
You know the people railing against "doomers" who think we're headed for collapse?
This doomer doesn't even think a collapse is coming. He thinks a long, slow, permanent decline is coming, and that's far, far worse.
Yes, I know for me it is Trump cultists who are doing it.
They despise any criticism of their buffoon leader.
I even said I would actually vote for Trump if he became the nominee. Apparently that is not enough for these retards. They expect me to worship Trump like they do.
What is it with DeSantis people and using the word "grifter" as a fill in for "person I dont like." This tweet demonstrates that this trend transcends just this board.
Baris has had some of the best polling for many cycles now. Just cause you're butthurt that he still likes Trump doesn't make him a grifter.
The DeSantis camp has borrowed heavily from the lefties' vernacular when it comes to Trump. Right wing TDS is the exact same as lefty TDS
Look at Baris' polling in 2020 and 2022.
Objectively very wrong.
He predicted Brian Kemp losing but Herschel Walker winning.
Baris is a actual grifter.
2022 wasn't the best for him for sure. Whatever his methods are have not been able adequately account for ballot harvesting and other recent changes in voting methodology that have taken place in certain districts. Cherry picking that to say he is a grifter is beyond retarded considering his long record of being better than essentially any mainstream pollster (admittedly not the highest bar), and I think you know that deep down. But then again, you're the chief DeSimp here so anyone who doesn't agree with you and has a following is a grifter.
Baris's polls are trash and I feel sorry for you if you still trust them.
If you are going to call me a DeSimp, I will call you what you are, a Trump cultist.
I've been through this with you before but I'll say it again for the peanut gallery. It doesnt take an orange man fanatic to notice how much of a DeSantis shill you are. I recognize a ton of usernames around here, but only two elicit an exasperated sigh whenever I see it in my replies, yours and Imp. That's how much of a meme you've become.
What is Baris talking about? DeSantis mocking a veteran?
As people here know, I constantly criticize Trump for his various failings but if he becomes the nominee in 2024 I will unenthusiastically still vote for Trump in the general while holding my nose because I understand that preventing a Biden second term is crucial to the survival of America.
Even the completely deranged and pathetic version of Trump we all see today would still be better than a Biden second term.
I am absolutely voting DeSantis in the primaries but I will support the GOP candidate regardless of whether it is either DeSantis or Trump.
OnlyTrumper cultists like Baris are shortsighted clowns if they don't see how important it is to prevent a second Biden term.
For the record Baris is not even a competent pollster these days.
Richard Baris's polls were terribly off in terms of accuracy in the 2020 and 2022 election cycles.
He predicted that Kemp would have no shot of winning GA governor if he won the primary. Kemp soundly beat Stacy Abrams.
He claimed that Duarte would lose the House seat because he was mad that his friend Giglio lost the primary to Duarte. Duarte won the general election.
Baris claimed Herschel Walker would guaranteed win if he just made it to a run-off. Walker lost the runoff.
Baris has decided to go full clown. Sad to see this happen to a guy I looked at for some polling information.
Fuck meatball desantis. He is supported by old ballsack face and rino scum like paul ryan and bush. Hes a backstabbing globalist scum who wants more money for ukraine, destroyed the 1st ammendment in florida while in israel, and refuses to do his job as florida govenor instead backstabbing florida and trump. Id rather youngkin or if it gets desantis vs biden ill plug nose and give biden the vote since desantis betrayed us while biden was honest that hes a traitorous commie
Based on what evidence do you claim that 'he wants more money for Ukraine'?
Actual Floridians disagree.
Then you are certifiably retarded.Or a glowie/troll.
This is the biggest pile of braindead Trump cultism I seen.
Go fuck yourself clown.
It prefer Biden too. Gopeers need to feel some more pain. 3 years of Biden and all they manage to do is create a framework to censor the internet.
Name checks out.
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