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Marvel & DC went woke. So people switched to manga. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by dekachin 3 years ago by dekachin +72 / -0
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– Adamrises 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Manga, and Japan in general, has the blessing and curse of being unfathomably formulaic and the Japs themselves incredibly loud if that is messed with.

Which means anything that really shakes up the mold will be met with enough controversy to scare the Japs away from continuing and other companies from even trying. Ragebait political moves will have the opposite effect as they do here.

So, it will happen but it will be at a glacial pace comparatively to what we are used to. And at the rate "web manga" are taking off, and doujins already are, its likely the mainstream industry creating it will have lost its monolith. Which is the requirement to really push social change effectively.

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– RondoOBlongo 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

No, you understimate how retarded japanese suits can be and how non-confrontational japanese companies can be. See what happened when Capcom started leaning to the west. Also, as we saw with western companies, they don't care alienating their domestic market if they think the west is more profitable: aka Squeenix

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– Adamrises 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Video games went Worldwide near thirty years ago and it took 20 of those before the Japs starting vaguely catering to the West with some of their series. Manga has a long way to go and a lot more marketshare before it reaches that level.

Especially as, most of these problems are only in the biggest titles from these companies. Wherein many of the problems are completely absent in their lower marketed, and sometimes unexported, ones. Meaning the rot hasn't even completely taken over the company. Because Jap companies aren't like Western ones with single titles every few years. They have multiple per year inhouse developed, with dozens more published by them as well. Shit Squeenix has been behind every Yoko Taro game, which is offensive to every sensibility the woke have.

Its certainly going to happen eventually, but it has a lot of obstacles before it completely takes over.

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– RondoOBlongo 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They have already starting to skip volumes or cancel some titles (Ayakashi Triangle), shonen jump has quietly abandoned fanservice (shonen jump plus), etc

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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

One of the biggest manga of the last few years (Kaguya-sama) had a spinoff created just for fanservice and lewd jokes. Web manga artists are opening pixiv accounts just to draw hentai of their characters for people to enjoy. Heck web manga as a whole are giving cancelled titles the ability to be continued regardless if the company won't. Shit every season of anime is still dominated by the popularity of its hot waifu with no signs of that changing with how much it is blowing up formerly niche titles (Call of the Night, Dress-up Darling, Tomo is a Girl).

I don't doubt it is happening in some places, I simply don't believe it'll make major waves on the industry as a whole for a bit longer due to the nature of the industry itself.

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– dzonatan 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Capcom is more international than japanese at this point.

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– TheModernDaVinci 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

They are also obsessed with efficiency and profit above all else. So they may occasionally get battered into creating a Woke manga by Western investors or Twitter freaks. Then it will crash and burn, they will say “Well, so much for that.” And then go back to the stuff that sells until it’s time for badgering again.

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– Adamrises 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Not just that, but they also are obsessed with purity. Girls not being "pure" is such a major topic of contention that it basically can destroy entire AAA companies. From idols to games to even the porn has to tiptoe around it. Same with their racism, where if they don't throw in a line about a character being "1/4" Jap, they get hounded and attacked for it.

These are anathemic to the Woke, who need those as a baseline acceptance to even begin pushing further. Which means they have to start slowly and subtly (like they did a long time ago in the West) to get in the door, and the current crop lacks those abilities.

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