Started watching it on Pluto and only in the first season but I’m liking it. I’ve seen random episodes here and there and my dad rented the movie once it was available at blockbuster. Plus it’s cool to see a show with Air Force members as an Air Force vet. I assume since it ended before the woke era there aren’t any major girlboss moments.
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IIRC there are maybe 2 or 3 episodes with "muh sexism/racism" but considering that the series ran for 10 seasons that's pretty minor. It's still probably my favorite series ever.
Season 1 was a bit slow IMHO. It felt fairly low budget and there was too much character introduction and not enough action when I rewatched it. Although that's maybe not an issue if you're watching it for the first time.
The later SG Atlantis felt slightly woker with that weird mystical girlboss but other than her it's still great.
SG Universe ... well, we don't talk about SG Universe.
I’ve heard a lot of people don’t like SGU. What did they do wrong? Totally change the lore?
They basically turned it into a highschool drama.
It also suffered from major one-upmanship. They raised the stakes to a point where it was about the secret behind the creation of the universe. It was so over the top that it didn't fit in with anything that came before.
Not the commenter you posted at, but I just have to reply ;)
They changed the lore, the format, the focus, the acting..
It’s a product of its time. mostly aping the directing style of the Battlestar Galactica reboot with the ongoing mystery of Lost and musical cues matching every drama at the time, which is fitting because of all the romance shit thrown in. At best it’s jarring compared to SG1 and Atlantis. At worst it’s painfully derivative. Still. The character of Dr. rush can be fun to watch (I’d describe him as ruthlessly pragmatic) and there’s a soldier with nice breasts.
Oh, thanks for the heads up
They tried to be too much like Battlestar Galactica, what with all the scheming and interpersonal conflicts going on left and right. Wrote themselves into a lot of weird dead ends. Lacked clear direction. Way too big of a cast and most of the characters were bland or cringey.
Also at this point of the franchise, they'd already delved through just about everything in the Milky Way Galaxy and Pegasus Galaxy. I don't know if there was much fun they could've had exploring the Ori or Asgard galaxy (forgot the names), since the Ori one is basically... more of the usual "primitive medieval peasants who aren't totally primitive" and with how the Asgard subplot played out... hmm.
Actually, they COULD have played off of that unfinished business with the more "grey" Asgard remnants encountered in Atlantis. That actually could've been a very different and new kind of threat. Since the fuckers are purely about science and reasoning (where-as most of the previous villains had been simply power hungry and posed as powerful gods, or were literally hungry)
The Ori were complete trash. Those seasons were completely extraneous. Chore to sit through any of it. Even the space battles sucked. Ori ships looked like oversized toilet seats.
You could tell the writers just despised the Catholic Church and did everything in their power to demonize Catholics. There wasn't any subtlety to it, either. It was just pure cringe.
Aye, the Ori were definitely based loosely on a general "Christian" theme, with an emphasis on Catholic vibes. Like that kind of thing was okay when it sprang up in individual episodes, but it was just kind of yawn-inducingly boring and repetitive as part of the main story.
The Lucian Alliance thing was also kind of a bit of a snorefest. Conceptually, there was nothing wrong with it, but something about the execution was just not really engaging. Had similar issues with Baal and his clones, although he was at least occasionally fun in a few episodes.
You will get a lot of different answers to that question but personally one of the reasons I dislike SGU is that it literally lifts what is clearly a joke from season 10 of SG-1 but runs with it 110% seriously.
I'm not sure what the spoiler tags are for this site so I'm going to try and remain generally vague about what happens while also making a large chunk of text to make it difficult for things to stand out:
At some point in universe a tv show starts up based on the military program. It's classic 90s sci-fi, as in horribly cheesy with extremely cheap effects parodying both the actual concept of SG-1 as well as 90s sci-fi. The US Gov let it run despite how on the nose about the actual program it is because it offers some deniability about the Stargate. Later on there's an episode dealing with a movie being made that pokes a lot of fun at various sci-fi shows from the time, in particular Farscape because the movie being discussed is getting made after "dvd sales did well" regardless of how the original parody show got cancelled. When discussing how the movie should be made someone makes a comment about how the studio execs want to reboot the show but with a "Young Adult" cast and make it into an interpersonal drama show. In other words a CW show. That's what SGU ended up being. The main cast are all early-mid 20s causing drama between each other because the Chad soldier, who literally first appears on screen in SGU fucking another soldier in a supply closet, ends up as the eye candy for the lead female who is the object of affection for the isekai'd nerd who gets whisked away from his perma-online MMO lifestyle to have adventures IN SPAAACE!
As others mention it's very like the BSG remake of the time and in addition to the issue I mention above the whole thing just doesn't feel like a Stargate show at all. It could easily be a random sci-fi show with nothing to do with Stargate which begs the question of why bother to make it when it turned out like that?
SG: Atlantis is similar enough to SG-1, for better or worse, that it still feels like a Stargate show with both the general story and cast fitting the SG-1 templates. While this touches on a lack of originality as a criticism point it does mean it retains enough to be marketable to the existing SG-1 audience.
Plus the characters from both SG-1 and SGA are for the most part extremely memorable and welcome. SG-1 has better core characters and fewer supporting ones but they are all great. General Hammond and Doctor Fraser for example while not being active SG team members are still very much part of the show. SGA however doesn't really gel as a team until Jason Momoa joins the show in season 2 because Ford never gets developed into anything interesting character wise. SGA does have a much larger supporting roster however and almost all are characters the audience enjoy such as Beckett and Zelenka, even the antagonistic ones.
Thank you for the breakdown. I may check it out after I watch SG1and SGA
I don't disagree with what everyone here is saying about SGU, but I did really like what they did with Young, the military leader in that show. Basically, he's a fuckup without being an idiot or bad at his job. He's just in way over his head and makes wrong calls. It was a 'love to hate him' thing, but with a protagonist, which I'd never seen done before at the time.
That said, it was all subtext and not at all intentional. They were going for "Rush and Young are both strong personalities who are each correct sometimes. Also, every SG show has nominal power sharing between the military and civs." The problem is, Rush was correct almost every time and held all the trumps. Young had absolutely nothing on him and should've accepted it was no longer his mission.
Rush was utterly duplicitous, though, and had no real standing amongst that group, because he blew all of his credibility with his shitty schemes.
Absolutely. But as (pretty much) the only one who could get the ship to do anything, Rush was the only one who was indispensable, and he knew it.
Thanks!
They end up getting the Russian team treatment though so it ends well :p
Teyla was one of the worst characters imaginable. A failed female Teal'c replacement. She was completely useless. They allegedly hired her because she had knowledge of the local trade networks, but she turned into black G.I. Jane with sticks for some apparent reason, and her knowledge of local trade networks was completely non-existent.
Til she is black
She's from East Africa, half-Bantu. She does look pale and has many Caucasian features, but we all know why they hired her for that role, and it wasn't for her acting chops.