I think the quality of the industry comes and goes. It probably peaked in the early to mid 20th century. Before that, yellow journalism and muckraking, afterward… well, what we have now, hyper-partisanship, the elevation of opinion writing about the fact finding g side of things… and most annoying to me at least, the absolute self-congratulatory grandstanding. Outlets leaving Twitter in a huff being the latest example of that.
The death of actual investigative journalism along the way has been genuinely sad to see (outside of James O'Keefe, Glenn Greenwald, and a few others).
Obviously lying cunts with 0 respect, instead of clever basters that people trust.
The idea would be truthful and honest reporters, but that's too high a bar. But at lease if they're gunna lie, they're stupid about it. Or perhaps they just no longer feel the need to be so careful...
That was all it was really. They needed the image of respectability and prestige to capture the people's trust so that the propaganda could be conveyed en masse, which wasn't possible until the advent of broadcasting. That's why the profession of "journalism" and the fourth estate was created. Now that anybody can report the news, that establishment is dead. The "real" reporters who actually bought in to that polished image of professionalism have abandoned the house. All that's left is the outer structure waiting to collapse. Without censorship, it can't ever be rebuilt. We're returning to the old roots of the reporter profession, which was always seen as tabloid trash before the 1940s.
There have always been a few dedicated journalists who were actually interested in finding and reporting on the truth. And we have some now. Glenn Greenwald, as much as I disagree with some of his views, is an example, as are Andy Ngo and James O'Keefe. The question is not whether those guys should be working for mainstream outlets like Wooodward and Bernstein were back in the 70s. The question is whether the WaPo would even then have let Woodward and Bernstein publish their exposé if Nixon had been a Democrat.
It really is pathetic to see an entire industry fall so far.
Only a few generations and it is completely destroyed. Goes to show how quickly humanity can lose something it has built for centuries.
The question is will it ever recover?
Journalists have always been this way.
That isn't entirely true, there was a time when they would keep their own ranks in check and remove anyone who lied or made them look bad.
Journalism used to be a prestigious position, now it is a laughing stock filled with cunts.
I suspect it was always this way and we just never noticed because the internet didn't exist to make it easy to debunk them.
I think the quality of the industry comes and goes. It probably peaked in the early to mid 20th century. Before that, yellow journalism and muckraking, afterward… well, what we have now, hyper-partisanship, the elevation of opinion writing about the fact finding g side of things… and most annoying to me at least, the absolute self-congratulatory grandstanding. Outlets leaving Twitter in a huff being the latest example of that.
Spot on summary.
The death of actual investigative journalism along the way has been genuinely sad to see (outside of James O'Keefe, Glenn Greenwald, and a few others).
I prefer it this way
Obviously lying cunts with 0 respect, instead of clever basters that people trust.
The idea would be truthful and honest reporters, but that's too high a bar. But at lease if they're gunna lie, they're stupid about it. Or perhaps they just no longer feel the need to be so careful...
no, they were just better at hiding.
That was all it was really. They needed the image of respectability and prestige to capture the people's trust so that the propaganda could be conveyed en masse, which wasn't possible until the advent of broadcasting. That's why the profession of "journalism" and the fourth estate was created. Now that anybody can report the news, that establishment is dead. The "real" reporters who actually bought in to that polished image of professionalism have abandoned the house. All that's left is the outer structure waiting to collapse. Without censorship, it can't ever be rebuilt. We're returning to the old roots of the reporter profession, which was always seen as tabloid trash before the 1940s.
There have always been a few dedicated journalists who were actually interested in finding and reporting on the truth. And we have some now. Glenn Greenwald, as much as I disagree with some of his views, is an example, as are Andy Ngo and James O'Keefe. The question is not whether those guys should be working for mainstream outlets like Wooodward and Bernstein were back in the 70s. The question is whether the WaPo would even then have let Woodward and Bernstein publish their exposé if Nixon had been a Democrat.
Less than 70%? God they are shameless liars, according to their own reporting its EXACTLY 70%