Question for the loli defenders. Why in the fuck do you think feeding your brain this sick shit isn't going to cause issues? Do you really think him feeding himself abhorrent shit for years couldn't have caused his current situation?
"But muh fictional" yeah, him well being a woman is also fictional but here we are. It doesn't matter if its fictional; you're conditioning your brain to get off on abhorrent shit and that's a bad idea.
Sure, you can absolutely make the argument that it's vile, but at the end of the day it's a cartoon, if you told me the guy had a bunch of RL child porn in his hard drive then yeah I'd be the first to send the feds. People shrieking about cartoons though to me is no different from Muslims screaming about drawing Mohammed. Yet I'm sure for the latter you'd be calling that ridiculous and laughing at Muslims over that one.
It's amazing how when it comes to freedom of speech and expression how many people are full of shit. It's all about extremes for a lot of people, you eventually find your red line and then you go "Ah okay, I don't like that, it makes me disgusted, therefore it shouldn't exist even though it's a cartoon".
I see this all the damn time across aisles, nobody is writing they 'support' it or think it's the best thing ever but simply pointing out. It's a cartoon and you're flipping your shit over it, it's such a god damn boomer mentality. Which is just another example of why I throw my hands up and I'm more than happy to see you all burn and kill each other if you're not going to pay attention to what is important, like real paedophilia.
Hypocrites, all of you, by the way, there are even people out there who go apeshit over anime in general and think it should be outright banned because muh sexualisation even though they barely look human to begin with lol. There have even been plenty of memes pointing out how hideous their proportions are when transferred to real life.
I think both your comment and the one above can be true at the same time. Like we can recognize that loli isn't exactly the same as CP and shouldn't be illegal, but also recognize that it's not healthy and is its own class of problem.
Exactly, this is the point everyone has being trying to make, the people who are against this are making a massive reach like SJWs do and are trying to make it out that this is the equivalent of real child porn and it should be made legal and that's what people on the free expression side are arguing but we're not. Thanks for being one of the reasonable ones on this bit of communities, it looks like we've very much got an infestation of people with a total boomer mentality to the whole thing though.
I know I keep posting it now, but this is exactly what the left does where instead of having any kind of argument ( Which realistically they don't and they know it ) they're running around trying to screech labels at people to shut them up and I am actually done with it. Zero point in even bothering with people who do this, what a bunch of social retards.
I at least respect to a degree the one guy who just outright admitted they want to ban what they view as degeneracy instead of lying.
I know I keep posting it now, but this is exactly what the left does where instead of having any kind of argument
Beat me to it. A bunch of retards with boomer mentalities acting like leftists. You can spot it a mile away. Like that user in this thread who gets emotional and starts typing in all caps because the flaw in his logic was plainly pointed out to him.
It is not a reach. You are just a fucking pedophile and keep pretending that someone saying it is pedophilia is the same as calling for a ban. That is just a deflection so you can continue to deny the reality of it
Hey, I'm not saying anything about legality, and it's interesting you immediately went there because "muh freedom" is a fairly strong place to defend from, but my post has nothing about whether it should be illegal. My post is about, "he put some freak shit in his brain and now his brain is full of freak shit." If someone wants to defend loli on principle that's whatever, but if a person is actually consuming loli then they are planting the eggs of their own brain worms, and Chris-chan II demonstrates that.
I actually agree with you on that point, my point is plenty of people on this thread are and then they're getting mad and trying to throw bullshit accusations at people making the free expression argument. This is hysteria that the left uses to try and pull us along into the path of censorship.
I love as well by the way that they've got children having books with porn being distributed to them in schools and libraries and this is what these retards focus their efforts on, I'm completely fucking done. I knew that there was something going wrong with the right when they started getting an absolute hard on for ranting about video games.
Hypocrites, all of you, by the way, there are even people out there who go apeshit over anime in general and think it should be outright banned because muh sexualisation even though they barely look human to begin with lol. There have even been plenty of memes pointing out how hideous their proportions are when transferred to real life.
Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.
This is a million times more dangerous to children than loli ever will be.
Question for the FPS defenders. Why in the fuck do you think feeding your brain this sick shit isn't going to cause issues? Do you really think them feeding themselves abhorrent shit for years couldn't have caused this current situation?
"But muh fictional" yeah, him well being doomguy is also fictional but here we are. It doesn't matter if its fictional; you're conditioning your brain to get off on abhorrent shit and that's a bad idea.
"Video games caused Columbine." - cartoonricoberts 2023
Here's the thing, there are acceptable times to shoot people. Bringing up Doomguy is self defeating because we WANT people who are willing to shoot demons.
There is never an acceptable time to treat children as sexual. Ever.
It really does annoy me that these types think it’s different. Same problem I have with the Lotus Eaters guys on this subject. And I am not even a loli person (I am more into Kemonomimi for unusual anime appearance). I just don’t think it wise to give on this when it is obvious they will use it to attempt to censor all anime, because they can’t allow people to get outside their media ecosystem.
How do I know they will? Because SJWs have already tried to accuse a character of being a “loli”, even though she is canonical in her mid-20’s and has big boobs. But she is short, so clearly a loli, right?
Because once you start dictating what fictional content with no harm to actual people or animals required for production should be banned than just be up to age suitability for content, you surrender all free speech and fair use arguments.
Try to make any argument of why X shouldn't be banned and it can be destroyed with changing standards and morality as soon as you give one precedent.
My main issue with all the anti loli shit is that is waters down pedophile even more than it currently is. People calling tips Hotlines and wasting times because of loli is yet another one that brings my piss to a boil. I get you don't like that, you're are free to but why waste time of people who want to fight actual child predators, you know... With actual children that get abused.
I get people do not like it but please don't water down the word pedophile any more. It's almost on the same level as lefties calling everyone under the sun nazi and when an actual nazi comes around you cannot even differentiate them from someone who likes trump or something.
Gotta be careful with that as once you start down that road you basically enable search and seizure over anime stockpiles. This already happened in Australia.
I don’t see how the loli thing and the tranny thing AREN’T connected… Not saying that everybody who is into loli will become a tranny, but there definitely seems to be a connection between becoming a tranny and being into weird forms of porn.
Also, loli is basically animated CP. I’m not sure how you could get off to that if you’re not a pedo.Of course, loli doesn’t actually hurt any children because it is fictional, but it does seem concerning that somebody who is into that shit has access to an actual child.
People who like lolisho hate CP, the same can be said about feral porn and rape pornography.
I will admit that the lolisho community and the furry community suffer from the fetish community predator problem, and that rapists were found to have hoarded rape pornography, all that indicates is that fetish communities need to take extreme measures to keep the predators away.
As for rape, mental institutions are a great place to throw criminal sexual deviants who refuse to comply with government demands, as that would make them sexual predators.
People like to imagine that they can just stare and stare into the abyss for their whole life and not be affected by it. The human brain is stupid, underneath the higher brain functions it actually can't make a distinction between fiction and reality. Input is input. Your limbic system can't understand that the images you're jerking off to aren't real. The Your Brain on Porn guy has gone into this at length. The brains reward circuitry is surprisingly easy to highjack.
Deviant sexual arousal is literally the strongest indicator of becoming an offender. The more you experience it the more likely an individual is to become a sex offender.
Not a huge loli fan, but I like some of it by certain artists.
The answer is A: Because I can tell fiction from reality, and because I control my own thoughts and actions. And B: It isn't real.
As an aside, your argument is nanny-state bullshit of the highest degree. If you don't want SJW moral puritans ruling your life, then back the fuck off justifying their arguments by making them in your own image.
Question for the loli defenders. Why in the fuck do you think feeding your brain this sick shit isn't going to cause issues? Do you really think him feeding himself abhorrent shit for years couldn't have caused his current situation?
"But muh fictional" yeah, him well being a woman is also fictional but here we are. It doesn't matter if its fictional; you're conditioning your brain to get off on abhorrent shit and that's a bad idea.
Sure, you can absolutely make the argument that it's vile, but at the end of the day it's a cartoon, if you told me the guy had a bunch of RL child porn in his hard drive then yeah I'd be the first to send the feds. People shrieking about cartoons though to me is no different from Muslims screaming about drawing Mohammed. Yet I'm sure for the latter you'd be calling that ridiculous and laughing at Muslims over that one.
It's amazing how when it comes to freedom of speech and expression how many people are full of shit. It's all about extremes for a lot of people, you eventually find your red line and then you go "Ah okay, I don't like that, it makes me disgusted, therefore it shouldn't exist even though it's a cartoon".
I see this all the damn time across aisles, nobody is writing they 'support' it or think it's the best thing ever but simply pointing out. It's a cartoon and you're flipping your shit over it, it's such a god damn boomer mentality. Which is just another example of why I throw my hands up and I'm more than happy to see you all burn and kill each other if you're not going to pay attention to what is important, like real paedophilia.
Hypocrites, all of you, by the way, there are even people out there who go apeshit over anime in general and think it should be outright banned because muh sexualisation even though they barely look human to begin with lol. There have even been plenty of memes pointing out how hideous their proportions are when transferred to real life.
I think both your comment and the one above can be true at the same time. Like we can recognize that loli isn't exactly the same as CP and shouldn't be illegal, but also recognize that it's not healthy and is its own class of problem.
Exactly, this is the point everyone has being trying to make, the people who are against this are making a massive reach like SJWs do and are trying to make it out that this is the equivalent of real child porn and it should be made legal and that's what people on the free expression side are arguing but we're not. Thanks for being one of the reasonable ones on this bit of communities, it looks like we've very much got an infestation of people with a total boomer mentality to the whole thing though.
I know I keep posting it now, but this is exactly what the left does where instead of having any kind of argument ( Which realistically they don't and they know it ) they're running around trying to screech labels at people to shut them up and I am actually done with it. Zero point in even bothering with people who do this, what a bunch of social retards.
I at least respect to a degree the one guy who just outright admitted they want to ban what they view as degeneracy instead of lying.
Beat me to it. A bunch of retards with boomer mentalities acting like leftists. You can spot it a mile away. Like that user in this thread who gets emotional and starts typing in all caps because the flaw in his logic was plainly pointed out to him.
It is not a reach. You are just a fucking pedophile and keep pretending that someone saying it is pedophilia is the same as calling for a ban. That is just a deflection so you can continue to deny the reality of it
Hey, I'm not saying anything about legality, and it's interesting you immediately went there because "muh freedom" is a fairly strong place to defend from, but my post has nothing about whether it should be illegal. My post is about, "he put some freak shit in his brain and now his brain is full of freak shit." If someone wants to defend loli on principle that's whatever, but if a person is actually consuming loli then they are planting the eggs of their own brain worms, and Chris-chan II demonstrates that.
I actually agree with you on that point, my point is plenty of people on this thread are and then they're getting mad and trying to throw bullshit accusations at people making the free expression argument. This is hysteria that the left uses to try and pull us along into the path of censorship.
I love as well by the way that they've got children having books with porn being distributed to them in schools and libraries and this is what these retards focus their efforts on, I'm completely fucking done. I knew that there was something going wrong with the right when they started getting an absolute hard on for ranting about video games.
Heck, the UN has been going after Japan for anime for quite some time. It's also the same UN that has called for decriminalizing sexual intercourse between adults and minors. On Page 22, they explicitly said this:
This is a million times more dangerous to children than loli ever will be.
Question for the FPS defenders. Why in the fuck do you think feeding your brain this sick shit isn't going to cause issues? Do you really think them feeding themselves abhorrent shit for years couldn't have caused this current situation?
"But muh fictional" yeah, him well being doomguy is also fictional but here we are. It doesn't matter if its fictional; you're conditioning your brain to get off on abhorrent shit and that's a bad idea.
"Video games caused Columbine." - cartoonricoberts 2023
Here's the thing, there are acceptable times to shoot people. Bringing up Doomguy is self defeating because we WANT people who are willing to shoot demons.
There is never an acceptable time to treat children as sexual. Ever.
Lemme know when you start jacking off to people being shot to death.
It really does annoy me that these types think it’s different. Same problem I have with the Lotus Eaters guys on this subject. And I am not even a loli person (I am more into Kemonomimi for unusual anime appearance). I just don’t think it wise to give on this when it is obvious they will use it to attempt to censor all anime, because they can’t allow people to get outside their media ecosystem.
How do I know they will? Because SJWs have already tried to accuse a character of being a “loli”, even though she is canonical in her mid-20’s and has big boobs. But she is short, so clearly a loli, right?
But considering that Anime and Manga are aimed at late teens and young adults, that is a little bit different in terms of "Can they see this or that."
Oh, yeah, clearly the same thing. Violence is a normal impulse that doesn't have as much place in the modern world. WANTING TO FUCK CHILDREN ISN'T.
Loli aren't children. They're drawings....
Because once you start dictating what fictional content with no harm to actual people or animals required for production should be banned than just be up to age suitability for content, you surrender all free speech and fair use arguments.
Try to make any argument of why X shouldn't be banned and it can be destroyed with changing standards and morality as soon as you give one precedent.
My main issue with all the anti loli shit is that is waters down pedophile even more than it currently is. People calling tips Hotlines and wasting times because of loli is yet another one that brings my piss to a boil. I get you don't like that, you're are free to but why waste time of people who want to fight actual child predators, you know... With actual children that get abused.
I get people do not like it but please don't water down the word pedophile any more. It's almost on the same level as lefties calling everyone under the sun nazi and when an actual nazi comes around you cannot even differentiate them from someone who likes trump or something.
It does not water down shit. If you jerk off to something that resembles or is supposed to be a prepubescent child you are a pedo.
Gotta be careful with that as once you start down that road you basically enable search and seizure over anime stockpiles. This already happened in Australia.
I don’t see how the loli thing and the tranny thing AREN’T connected… Not saying that everybody who is into loli will become a tranny, but there definitely seems to be a connection between becoming a tranny and being into weird forms of porn.
Also, loli is basically animated CP. I’m not sure how you could get off to that if you’re not a pedo.Of course, loli doesn’t actually hurt any children because it is fictional, but it does seem concerning that somebody who is into that shit has access to an actual child.
People who like lolisho hate CP, the same can be said about feral porn and rape pornography.
I will admit that the lolisho community and the furry community suffer from the fetish community predator problem, and that rapists were found to have hoarded rape pornography, all that indicates is that fetish communities need to take extreme measures to keep the predators away.
As for rape, mental institutions are a great place to throw criminal sexual deviants who refuse to comply with government demands, as that would make them sexual predators.
People like to imagine that they can just stare and stare into the abyss for their whole life and not be affected by it. The human brain is stupid, underneath the higher brain functions it actually can't make a distinction between fiction and reality. Input is input. Your limbic system can't understand that the images you're jerking off to aren't real. The Your Brain on Porn guy has gone into this at length. The brains reward circuitry is surprisingly easy to highjack.
This is so wrong on every level....
Deviant sexual arousal is literally the strongest indicator of becoming an offender. The more you experience it the more likely an individual is to become a sex offender.
Same argument can be used to justify control of any harmful substance such as alcohol, tobacco, barbecued meats, soda, etc.
Not a huge loli fan, but I like some of it by certain artists.
The answer is A: Because I can tell fiction from reality, and because I control my own thoughts and actions. And B: It isn't real.
As an aside, your argument is nanny-state bullshit of the highest degree. If you don't want SJW moral puritans ruling your life, then back the fuck off justifying their arguments by making them in your own image.