The lolicon issue that a lot of conservatives are trying to start by linking it to trans is a non-starter and to their detriment. Plus it alienates those who hold conservative opinions but like anime.
Lolicon works off a separation of reality and fiction. You can do WHATEVER you want to a drawing, it's a drawing it has no agency but ask the majority of lolicons if they think kids should be sexually active and they'll beat the shit out of you...if they can some really need to exercise more.
Trans LIVES in fiction, thinking that gender can be changed like clothes and that sex is an entitlement to all INCLUDING children with how much they try to include kids in their activities.
Trying to conflate lolicon and trans is like conflating Jews and Muslims. You are taking two groups that hate each other to be both pissed at you and see you as the enemy.
That's their plan. It was the "anime Right" that bent the trad-Right's arm into something that was, big shock, palatable to people again because it didn't have a stick up its ass anymore. The tradcuck boomers didn't like that, so here they are driving wedges into their own side to restore their precious moral purity.
This is the equivalent of trannies saying “you’re genociding us” because we won’t use their pronouns. Disliking lolicon (aka animated child porn) doesn’t mean you dislike anime. I happen to enjoy a lot of anime, and I think lolicon is 100% child porn.
The lolicon issue that a lot of conservatives are trying to start by linking it to trans is a non-starter and to their detriment. Plus it alienates those who hold conservative opinions but like anime.
A lot of fucking weirdos are into lolis. It's pedo shit if you jack off to lolis. It just is. Lolis are explicitly designed to appeal to pedos.
I watch anime a lot. My GF is Japanese. It's very transparent that there are a significant number of characters inserted into some shows purely to appeal to fetishes so that the show will sell more to those fetishists. Lolis are designed to appeal to pedos. The more recent "imoto" fetish is a combination of pedophilia & incest. Even Black Clover - a mainstream big title - has a protagonist character who is openly sexually into his little sister.
ask the majority of lolicons if they think kids should be sexually active and they'll beat the shit out of you...
X: doubt. Not if they're being honest.
This particular tranny is also into lolis. Sexually. Not because he thinks they're cute, but because he likes to masturbate to them. And he does it enough to proudly say it in public. That doesn't mean ALL trannies are like that, but the simple fact is that mentally ill people have comorbidities, so a tranny is much more likely to be into lolis or other forms of sexual deviancy when compared to just a normal sane person.
It just is. Lolis are explicitly designed to appeal to pedos.
No and no.
Lolis do not even resemble human beings, let alone human children. Japanese and Japanese-styled art DOMINATES the erotic space while the realism of western art has been utterly sidelined. We haven't seen a millennial Boris Vallejo or Frank Frazetta because eroticism in that style just doesn't sell any more. The Japs blew it the fuck away and relegated it to western women's romance novel book covers.
The overwhelming majority of people jacking off to drawings aren't looking for realism. That's WHY they're jacking off to drawings.
Lolis do not even resemble human beings, let alone human children.
Lolis are 100% intended to resemble human children, just like adult anime women with big tits are intended to resemble human adult women. It doesn't matter that they are not photo-realistic. There is a reason that human males get hard dicks for big anime titties but not for the cast of the Pixar movies Cars or Finding Nemo.
Lolis are carefully crafted to have traits that pedophiles will get triggered by & sexually aroused by. That's why they exist. Same with many other fetish bait tropes like Moe, Tsunderes, Yanderes, and all the others. This is especially true in harem anime but it leaks into mainstream titles as well since the Japanese are taught that putting this shit in their anime = more sales.
The overwhelming majority of people jacking off to drawings aren't looking for realism. That's WHY they're jacking off to drawings.
A pedo who masturbates to "unrealistic" lolis is still a pedo. I really don't care if you want to argue "b-b-but he's an ethical pedo because he doesn't go after real cp!" I DON'T CARE. HE IS STILL A PEDO. which is all I said to begin with.
It doesn't matter that they are not photo-realistic
They are not just 'not photorealistic', they do not even have human proportions. You're screaming 'pedophile!' at people jacking off to something that looks NOTHING like a human child and has a facial structure literally closer to that of a kitten than a human being.
Your opinions on this are transparently those of an artistic illiterate who has never drawn anything in his life and has zero understanding of or care for how character design/proportion plays with people's brains to create pleasing illusions of things that are simply not there.
A pedo who masturbates to "unrealistic" lolis is still a pedo.
This statement is your entire position, sI'm going to succinctly break down how retarded this statement is by translating it into plain English:
'A person who masturbates to something that looks nothing like a human child is a person who is sexually attracted to human children'.
You are really doing all you can to dilute the language, aren't you? The word "pedo" is gonna have as much meaning as the word "racist" when you're done with it. And I say that as someone who made the comment yesterday, before this thread even was posted, that actual pedos deserve the wood chipper.
this pedo apologism shit is so widespread here on kia2 one wonders if it's a psyop.
jacking it to kids: horrendous! how can leftism do this?
jacking it to digital art of kids: wow, stop cramping my style libtard, she COULD be a 900 year old dragon even though i jack it to her because she looks and acts like a kid.
Lolicon isn't about kids it's about body type. Don't get me wrong, there's a LOT of stuff where it's clearly kids but it's focused on Asian attraction of youth so it's how you get the '900 year old vampire loli' archetype. They have the youthful look but the maturity of your average milf, you want examples look up Rory Mercury from GATE or Yue from Arifureta.
In regards to his tweets some of them not including the loli stuff is a product of their time. It was made in the era when we were WAY more edgy and this was popular song. Unless we want to fall in to the trap of removing cultural context while critiquing history, it's also a none starter.
The tweets with any regarding his kids and very disturbing comments are fair game even if we were back in the Filthy Frank era as 1. It uses a real kid 2. Uses a person they are in close proximity too. That's just disturbing.
Also ask dev from SFO about these trannies and lolicon, they tried to cancel him and claim he was a pedo because he liked anime and said lolicon was a non issue. They ironically stopped when they started praising Chris and Dev pointed out that he liked lolicon.
Its almost like people forget that loli was part of otaku culture for decades and nobody gave a shit at all about it last time if you said you like loli. it was only recently that people starting crying about it. Which has also accelerated to even calling things like Uzuki chan "pedo bait"
Plus it alienates those who hold conservative opinions but like anime.
That's like saying that denouncing Lolita would alienate people who like War and Peace - just because they're both Russian literature doesn't mean people are going to like both or neither.
You need to seperate the sexual side from the actual body type when discussing lolicon. It's been a part of anime for decades.
To go ' this thing you do in your media that does not directly harm anyone, you should stop doing it because I don't like it' is right out of a leftist playbook.
Don't fall into the trap of saying something shouldn't exist when it doesn't directly harm anyone to make it. I'd be more concerned with AI made stuff ...
Honestly it's probably not a big mistake to conflate them for scare-points from a political standpoint. There's not a lolicon voting bloc. It's an extreme niche.
Loli "fans" should understand this. There is a such thing as fetishes and kinks that AREN'T part of a normal healthy society and should be kept in the closet. If only the faggots had accepted that decades ago and didn't decide to make sexuality part of their identity.
Loli "fans" should understand this. There is a such thing as fetishes and kinks that AREN'T part of a normal healthy society and should be kept in the closet.
Most of the ones I know that either enjoy the content or defend it's right to exist DO understand it, it's just the left constantly throwing lolicon like they're flares and the right goes for the decoy.
They'd be happy to be left alone, not harming anyone in their corners like they have for decades but with the popularity of anime and manga nowadays, they're seen as the weakest point to attack in order to infiltrate the wider industry.
Loli "fans" should understand this. There is a such thing as fetishes and kinks that AREN'T part of a normal healthy society and should be kept in the closet.
I'm not saying it should be out in the public or paraded around proudly. I'm saying it should not be disallowed because many people find it unpleasant. You can say oh but that isn't what we are talking about but that doesn't matter. But as others pointed out lolicon is like the Alex Jones of this subniche. If it goes then there's no telling what happens next. As there has been a large effort to fling shit at lolicon in western circles where it was largely ignored before, and payment processors threatening sites like pixiv over it, it shouldn't be a surprise that any excessive criticism is met with harsh pushback.
You don't like loli? Totally cool.
You think it shouldn't be generally accepted out in the open? I agree.
But when you (and not you specifically, but others in this thread) lead with retarded shit like if you like loli then you're a pedo, or liking loli turns you into a pedo, then expect massive pushback.
You done screaming like a blue hair into the void on some old post everyone moved on from? Nice framing when I never said you had to 'like loli' to like anime only that its been a part of anime for years and has harmed less real kids than a standard nickelodeon production.
If you come at me immediately trying to label me shit, expect me to treat you like shit.
The lolicon issue that a lot of conservatives are trying to start by linking it to trans is a non-starter and to their detriment. Plus it alienates those who hold conservative opinions but like anime.
Lolicon works off a separation of reality and fiction. You can do WHATEVER you want to a drawing, it's a drawing it has no agency but ask the majority of lolicons if they think kids should be sexually active and they'll beat the shit out of you...if they can some really need to exercise more.
Trans LIVES in fiction, thinking that gender can be changed like clothes and that sex is an entitlement to all INCLUDING children with how much they try to include kids in their activities.
Trying to conflate lolicon and trans is like conflating Jews and Muslims. You are taking two groups that hate each other to be both pissed at you and see you as the enemy.
That's their plan. It was the "anime Right" that bent the trad-Right's arm into something that was, big shock, palatable to people again because it didn't have a stick up its ass anymore. The tradcuck boomers didn't like that, so here they are driving wedges into their own side to restore their precious moral purity.
This is the equivalent of trannies saying “you’re genociding us” because we won’t use their pronouns. Disliking lolicon (aka animated child porn) doesn’t mean you dislike anime. I happen to enjoy a lot of anime, and I think lolicon is 100% child porn.
yea, pornography and rampant hedonism are very republican values...
A lot of fucking weirdos are into lolis. It's pedo shit if you jack off to lolis. It just is. Lolis are explicitly designed to appeal to pedos.
I watch anime a lot. My GF is Japanese. It's very transparent that there are a significant number of characters inserted into some shows purely to appeal to fetishes so that the show will sell more to those fetishists. Lolis are designed to appeal to pedos. The more recent "imoto" fetish is a combination of pedophilia & incest. Even Black Clover - a mainstream big title - has a protagonist character who is openly sexually into his little sister.
X: doubt. Not if they're being honest.
This particular tranny is also into lolis. Sexually. Not because he thinks they're cute, but because he likes to masturbate to them. And he does it enough to proudly say it in public. That doesn't mean ALL trannies are like that, but the simple fact is that mentally ill people have comorbidities, so a tranny is much more likely to be into lolis or other forms of sexual deviancy when compared to just a normal sane person.
No and no.
Lolis do not even resemble human beings, let alone human children. Japanese and Japanese-styled art DOMINATES the erotic space while the realism of western art has been utterly sidelined. We haven't seen a millennial Boris Vallejo or Frank Frazetta because eroticism in that style just doesn't sell any more. The Japs blew it the fuck away and relegated it to western women's romance novel book covers.
The overwhelming majority of people jacking off to drawings aren't looking for realism. That's WHY they're jacking off to drawings.
Lolis are 100% intended to resemble human children, just like adult anime women with big tits are intended to resemble human adult women. It doesn't matter that they are not photo-realistic. There is a reason that human males get hard dicks for big anime titties but not for the cast of the Pixar movies Cars or Finding Nemo.
Lolis are carefully crafted to have traits that pedophiles will get triggered by & sexually aroused by. That's why they exist. Same with many other fetish bait tropes like Moe, Tsunderes, Yanderes, and all the others. This is especially true in harem anime but it leaks into mainstream titles as well since the Japanese are taught that putting this shit in their anime = more sales.
A pedo who masturbates to "unrealistic" lolis is still a pedo. I really don't care if you want to argue "b-b-but he's an ethical pedo because he doesn't go after real cp!" I DON'T CARE. HE IS STILL A PEDO. which is all I said to begin with.
They are not just 'not photorealistic', they do not even have human proportions. You're screaming 'pedophile!' at people jacking off to something that looks NOTHING like a human child and has a facial structure literally closer to that of a kitten than a human being.
Your opinions on this are transparently those of an artistic illiterate who has never drawn anything in his life and has zero understanding of or care for how character design/proportion plays with people's brains to create pleasing illusions of things that are simply not there.
This statement is your entire position, sI'm going to succinctly break down how retarded this statement is by translating it into plain English:
'A person who masturbates to something that looks nothing like a human child is a person who is sexually attracted to human children'.
You are really doing all you can to dilute the language, aren't you? The word "pedo" is gonna have as much meaning as the word "racist" when you're done with it. And I say that as someone who made the comment yesterday, before this thread even was posted, that actual pedos deserve the wood chipper.
this pedo apologism shit is so widespread here on kia2 one wonders if it's a psyop.
jacking it to kids: horrendous! how can leftism do this?
jacking it to digital art of kids: wow, stop cramping my style libtard, she COULD be a 900 year old dragon even though i jack it to her because she looks and acts like a kid.
Lolicon isn't about kids it's about body type. Don't get me wrong, there's a LOT of stuff where it's clearly kids but it's focused on Asian attraction of youth so it's how you get the '900 year old vampire loli' archetype. They have the youthful look but the maturity of your average milf, you want examples look up Rory Mercury from GATE or Yue from Arifureta.
In regards to his tweets some of them not including the loli stuff is a product of their time. It was made in the era when we were WAY more edgy and this was popular song. Unless we want to fall in to the trap of removing cultural context while critiquing history, it's also a none starter.
The tweets with any regarding his kids and very disturbing comments are fair game even if we were back in the Filthy Frank era as 1. It uses a real kid 2. Uses a person they are in close proximity too. That's just disturbing.
Also ask dev from SFO about these trannies and lolicon, they tried to cancel him and claim he was a pedo because he liked anime and said lolicon was a non issue. They ironically stopped when they started praising Chris and Dev pointed out that he liked lolicon.
Its almost like people forget that loli was part of otaku culture for decades and nobody gave a shit at all about it last time if you said you like loli. it was only recently that people starting crying about it. Which has also accelerated to even calling things like Uzuki chan "pedo bait"
The fact that a short but with HUGE tits college student is considered 'pedo bait' by this crowd yet Cuties is artistic tells the entire story.
Source: "Trust me bro." Just admit that you got baited into moral outrage, faggot.
Oh? The pedo defending masturbating to cartoon children is calling ME a faggot?
Hahahahah, you fucking degenerate.
You disgust me, pervert.
That's like saying that denouncing Lolita would alienate people who like War and Peace - just because they're both Russian literature doesn't mean people are going to like both or neither.
You need to seperate the sexual side from the actual body type when discussing lolicon. It's been a part of anime for decades.
To go ' this thing you do in your media that does not directly harm anyone, you should stop doing it because I don't like it' is right out of a leftist playbook.
Don't fall into the trap of saying something shouldn't exist when it doesn't directly harm anyone to make it. I'd be more concerned with AI made stuff ...
Nobody is talking about depictions of children in normal media. Stop it with this Motte and Bailey nonsense.
I assumed this topic was only about the sexual content.
How very naiive. Give an inch, they will take a mile.
Honestly it's probably not a big mistake to conflate them for scare-points from a political standpoint. There's not a lolicon voting bloc. It's an extreme niche.
Loli "fans" should understand this. There is a such thing as fetishes and kinks that AREN'T part of a normal healthy society and should be kept in the closet. If only the faggots had accepted that decades ago and didn't decide to make sexuality part of their identity.
Most of the ones I know that either enjoy the content or defend it's right to exist DO understand it, it's just the left constantly throwing lolicon like they're flares and the right goes for the decoy.
They'd be happy to be left alone, not harming anyone in their corners like they have for decades but with the popularity of anime and manga nowadays, they're seen as the weakest point to attack in order to infiltrate the wider industry.
I'm not saying it should be out in the public or paraded around proudly. I'm saying it should not be disallowed because many people find it unpleasant. You can say oh but that isn't what we are talking about but that doesn't matter. But as others pointed out lolicon is like the Alex Jones of this subniche. If it goes then there's no telling what happens next. As there has been a large effort to fling shit at lolicon in western circles where it was largely ignored before, and payment processors threatening sites like pixiv over it, it shouldn't be a surprise that any excessive criticism is met with harsh pushback.
You don't like loli? Totally cool.
You think it shouldn't be generally accepted out in the open? I agree.
But when you (and not you specifically, but others in this thread) lead with retarded shit like if you like loli then you're a pedo, or liking loli turns you into a pedo, then expect massive pushback.
I like anime you pedo fag that does not mean I therefore like loli
You done screaming like a blue hair into the void on some old post everyone moved on from? Nice framing when I never said you had to 'like loli' to like anime only that its been a part of anime for years and has harmed less real kids than a standard nickelodeon production.
If you come at me immediately trying to label me shit, expect me to treat you like shit.