Why is life expectancy higher in the UK than in the US?
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One problem with US data is that anybody they count in America they label as 'Americans'. This will include millions of migrants who arrive here and sign up for Medicaid and SSI and other government program giveaways.
But millions of those people are not Americans and arrive here already in a sorry state, contributing to the trailing stats.
Here in Seattle there are shitloads of immigrants living off the system and because this is a santuary city/state they are considered residents, i.e. regular Americans. Many of them came here in poor health and then brought along their 6 dependent children and ailing parents who are all on the dole.
Plus the drug addicts are really taking a toll on this country.
Don't forget the insane amount of homeless people in some states, especially the Seattle area.
So fucking happy I left Seattle. Get out while you can.
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At the bottom end of the spectrum; Sub-saharan retardation.
In the middle: Trying to ignore health issues to save money.
Spread across virtually all: Grotesque amounts of sugar, high fructose corn syrup, benzoates, aspartame, and the rest of the mile long list of poisons in America food that are virtually unavoidable unless you are cooking fresh ingredients all the time. ...And even then America still refuses to handle chicken and eggs properly.
The BIGGEST factor in America's poor health is the food supply.
My guess is diet. AFAIK just about EVERYTHING has added sugar in the US, even milk, and they pray at the altar of processed food.
The Food Pyramid was a lie!
If I lived in the UK and had to eat british food, I wouldn't eat much, either.
Don't forget the soy and red dye number 49. America loves it's fake as shit junk food.
Because in a weird twist of fate, the Muslims are keeping the troons in line and BLM has no roots to get enough support to support mass riots/looting.
If you seperate it out between blue zones and red zones, I wouldn't be surprised if you see a dramatic difference between the two, even if red zones have more heavy and dangerous industries.
BeCaUsE tHe Us DoEsNt BaN gUnS aNd tHe ReThuGlIcAn InSuRrEcTiOnIsTs WoNt AlLoW SoCiAlIzEd HeAlThCaRe!
A few early darwins skew it down.
Disclaimer: I have no agenda here, these are both countries whose governments I despise. But considering that the UK is so much poorer than the US, this is noteworthy.
I did notice that this 'journalist' tried to make it about guns, when his own data showed that guns were a far lesser factor than violent deaths in general.
A huge percentage of America's supposed problems completely disappear once you filter to only asians & non-hispanic white.
US white life expectancy is 79, asian 85.7. Blacks bring down the average thanks to their poor health choices. Scottish men only have 76.8 despite NHS.
White people in the United States are also no fatter than whites in many EU countries. Fact. Blacks, and to a lesser extent hispanics, fuck up all our statistics.
I noticed a sleight of hand by this 'journalist', namely that he argued that race does not account for it - and then cited only data from the UK, not the US.
Still, I don't think race is even close to explaining most or all of this. One of the worst states is West Virginia, which has a very small black population.
And it's not as if European countries don't have minorities who are, in fact, a good deal less acculturated than blacks in America are.
You've made this claim before. Can you name those EU countries?
Very small concentration of "bad" whites. More than offset by "good" ones in everywhere else.
Why does the US have so many more "bad" whites than other countries?
you have not offered any evidence in support of that idiotic, biased, anti-american conclusion. "I have no agenda here" YEAH RIGHT.
lots of other countries have plenty of "bad whites" and you have not proven anything to the contrary.
West Virginia is not a representative sample and you know it, it's an extreme outlier that you cherry picked and it has less than 1/2 of 1% of the US population.
Highest white population is Maine and you conveniently ignored it. Plenty of the skinniest states are also ones with the highest levels of non-hispanic white population, but no let's ignore all that and cherry pick 1 outlier and argue in bad faith "I don't think race is even close to explaining most or all of this."
I get tired of dealing with you when you argue in bad faith and clearly have an agenda.
That escalated quickly. I'm absolutely anti-American. No question about it. I don't like your empire. I'm also perfectly capable of saying that I think America sucks when I do.
I posted this because I was interested in what defenses people had to offer, because I'm not stupid enough to take media narratives at face value.
And most of the time in real life, when I'm talking to Europeans, I'm defending America - at least on domestic policy. Cause they say stuff like "Americans are in love with guns and that's crazy". I say, no, there are a lot of rural people who need guns for self-defense because they have to wait 2 hours on the police.
That should be a wash. It isn't though. I'm surprised no one made the argument that "people of British ancestry have similar/higher life expectancy in the US".
Right, but the extreme outlier of the US does worse than the extreme outlier of the UK. Why?
You're very angry as of late. Is anything happening? Regardless, I'm waiting for EU states with higher obesity than the US white population. I could not find them.
Well, you'll claim that I'm lying even when I'm telling you why I'm doing something, so why bother explaining myself?
The UK does not have any extreme outliers and we don't have data that granular for the UK. Scotland is over 8% of the UK population vs West Virginia being less than 0.5% of the US. Also Scotland is not an "extreme" outlier, it's just a little lower.
I'm not angry and you cannot discern my emotional state through an internet comment section. Accusing someone of being angry is typical Redditry. Shame on you.
Also this BS "oh wow, that escalated quickly my guy! I'm calm as a cucumber but you are clearly in poor control of your emotional faculties!" little game you're playing.
Nah, I'm going to be very straightforward with you: when I pick up on bad faith from someone replying to me, I throw elbows because my time is being wasted. It isn't emotional. Me being polite on the internet requires me to expend additional energy. I'm willing to spend that energy on people arguing in good faith. I shut it off when they are not.
I've looked it up in the past, so I know I'm right. The UK is one of the fattest euro countries, but the BMI stats from the US to various other countries are not as far apart as people like to think they are. Everyone who wants to exaggerate obesity uses things like "percent overweight" which grossly exaggerates disparities because 1 country might have a BMI of 27 and another 26, and yet the 27 have a far higher percentage of people considered "overweight" because it's an imaginary line and you're just counting people over it.
I just did a 1 minute google search and it is not data that is easy to find. No web site wants to tell me the BMI data in the US broken down by ethnic group, so I can't even begin to make any comparisons.
I've had this debate before on Reddit, I've done the deep dive and posted proof. I can't find shit from my old banned accounts and I can't re-google it. Maybe I could if I spent an hour on it, but I don't want to.
To put it in perspective, the US has a life expectancy roughly on par with Poland.
As an Englishman who lived and worked in the US for 4 years, though numerically correct, it's very odd to think of the UK being 'so much poorer than the US', because there is very little appreciable difference in the quality of life of the average man - for that reason, I returned to England, despite being a lawful permanent resident of the US. America offered me nothing - or rather, nothing I actually wanted.
The reason the average American sees so little benefit from the vast wealth of his nation is the same reason the mightiest years of the British Empire were also those of extreme poverty for many Englishmen: Maintaining an empire is fucking expensive.
Add on top of this, the American elites have still not grown out of the 1920's mindset that they have to one-up the European elites on the size of their houses and you see America's riches either burned on the upkeep of GAE, or squandered on bragging to people who stopped caring half a century ago.
Truly born to be cattle, this one. A fine example of it's kind. It'll literally walk itself right back into the barn. No shepherd needed.
No shepherds explains why your country is full of rampaging farm equipment.
That got a laugh out of me, I'll admit. But I infinitely prefer dealing with the costs of liberty to being a literal serf, whereas when confronted by that you decided you'd rather be back under the boot of your lords.
You were afforded the opportunity to be free and chose to be a slave.
If only I were under the boot of the lords.
No, it's much worse than that. I'm under the boot of Greater London's electorate, who are brainwashed by American media. I'm ruled by a bunch of faggots in California, just like you.
The american government is bad in many ways, and many places. But the big cities do not actually control as much as the media would have you believe. Most of america is still free, and much of it has the spirit and the means to reject tyranny.
Your country on the other hand... dead. Entirely beyond saving. Not even worth the effort to try, because the remnants of the english are wretched husks, content to lick the boot.
Your words would have some weight to them if January 6th had been what the democrats pretend it was.
Whose country suffered lockdowns and vaccine hysteria the worst? Hint: It wasn't mine.
I agree with you. But can't blame them for this. I've lived all my life in a pod (apartment) and I'd like a proper home.
Guns are a red herring in mortality rate figures. Most are suicides, which really have nothing to do with guns, since it's just the tool they chose. When you remove those, and lawful shootings, which are a good thing, we're better off than countries that have far stricter gun regulations.
Are you sure? Not trying to make an anti-gun argument, but the percapitanumber of murders in the US is vastly greater than in any other Western country.
Well, not to shift goalposts, but the 2018 non-hispanic white population in America was almost 200 million and they committed 1,476 murders (not all involving firearms).
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
That’s a rate of fewer that one per 100 thousand, and comparable or better than most European countries.
The point being, the US doesn't have a gun problem, we have a demographic problem; where certain ethnic groups are orders of magnitude more violent than white people.