Ukraine is not a puppet of the US or any other nation, it is an independent and free country and people who are fighting for their own freedom against brutal Russian oppression and tyranny.
Ukrainians don't die "for American empire", they willingly risk their lives to save their families and people from a Russian cultural genocide. We know from all the Russian whining about how the Russian language in Ukraine isn't given equal status with Ukrainian, that once the Russians took over, they would do all they could to eradicate Ukrainian language and culture, and most likely would follow the same Stalinist forced settlement genocides that they've already inflicted on many people in occupied lands.
There is no such thing as an "American empire". I wish there was, then we wouldn't have to deal with this bullshit. If an American Empire really existed, Russia would be far far far too afraid to challenge it. America could crush the Russian military like a bug. The only reason Russia and China are trying to fuck around, is that America's weak attitude and soft power leave the door open for them to attempt to create an empire since America doesn't already have one standing in the way.
I literally watched the video on the Russian tv thing. LOL you act like a propagandist yet you expect people to treat you like a free thinking individual.
Ukraine is not a puppet of the US or any other nation, it is an independent and free country and people who are fighting for their own freedom against brutal Russian oppression and tyranny.
Guy comes to this forum and sounds like a globalist giving a speech at WEF, you just forgot to mention ''our democracy'' and this would read even more than it already does like an average western politician giving a speech.
He definitely has a blind spot when it comes to Russia. But I like that at least someone is providing the opposite perspective, even though his arguments on this thread weren't the strongest. It would be exceedingly boring if everyone just had the same opinion, and it doesn't equip people to try to open the eyes of people who belong to the 95% who are pro-Ukraine.
Funny, because I've always pointed out that "MASSIVE FRAUD" is nonsense. The 'election' was rigged in the normal way Western elections are rigged (through media bias) and then some (rigging of election regulations), but not by massive fraud.
The basic reality is that Russia has a massive advantage over Ukraine, in military power, in manpower, in industrial capacity, regardless of how many European countries' economies and Ukrainian lives you are willing to sacrifice for your empire, regardless of how much European infrastructure you blow up, regardless of how much you defraud us with your overpriced LNG garbage.
Russia will win, whether you like it or not. Your puppet will, at best, continue to be a dysfunctional rump state - a warning to any country that wants to become the West's prostitute.
Ukraine is not a puppet of the US or any other nation
Victoria Nuland, Naftali Bennett peace proposal, John Kirby saying that a ceasefire is "unacceptable".
it is an independent and free country
Legitimate orthodoxy is banned, the secret service intimidates judges to give dissenters 12 year jail sentences, Russian language media is banned, opposition parties are banned.
That is freedom the American imperialist way.
they willingly risk their lives
Willingly? They're being forcibly picked up from the streets, nightclubs in Kharkov are raided to pick up fresh cannon fodder for the American death machine.
they would do all they could to eradicate Ukrainian language and culture
Ukrainian culture and language is a product of the 'Ukrainization' campaign of the Bolsheviks.
There is no such thing as an "American empire". I wish there was
Then stop exporting BLM and troonery to my country. Stop sanctioning Uganda for upholding traditionalism. Not you personally.
is that America's weak attitude and soft power leave the door open for them to attempt to create an empire since America doesn't already have one standing in the way.
How many countries do you have military bases again?
I literally watched the video on the Russian tv thing. LOL you act like a propagandist yet you expect people to treat you like a free thinking individual.
Do you speak Russian? Your opinions are those of CNN. I consume the propaganda that both sides produce, and then I think for myself, which is why I don't buy the explanations for the Bucha mess, while you believe basically every negative story about Russia.
Ukraine is not a puppet of the US or any other nation
You’re legitimately too stupid to be on this website.
it is an independent and free country
The entire operational budget of the country is being paid for by the US.
and people who are fighting for their own freedom
The CIA overthrew their legitimately elected government and began murdering Ukrainian citizens in order to provoke Russia into attacking.
against brutal Russian oppression and tyranny.
“Making it illegal to teach children about gay anal fisting” is oppression and tyranny?
Ukrainians don't die "for American empire", they willingly risk their lives to save their families and people from a Russian cultural genocide.
How many of them are dating “I will literally die in order to keep teaching my children that miscegenation with homosexuals is and has always been my culture”?
We know from all the Russian whining about how the Russian language in Ukraine isn't given equal status with Ukrainian
What about it?
they would do all they could to eradicate Ukrainian language and culture
Try again with something believable.
most likely would follow the same Stalinist forced settlement genocides that they've already inflicted on many people in occupied lands.
Something believable.
There is no such thing as an "American empire".
SOMETHING. BELIEVABLE.
I wish there was
Too stupid to be alive, honestly.
If an American Empire really existed, Russia would be far far far too afraid to challenge it.
lol
America could crush the Russian military like a bug.
[citation needed]
America doesn't already have one
Learn what the IMF is, you stupid fucking shill.
LOL you act like a propagandist
I wish irony was fatal.
you expect people to treat you like a free thinking individual.
You are physically incapable of comprehending truth even when it is presented to you.
Thanks for admitting that everything you said is objectively false and that you’re incapable of refuting my statements. You have conceded the point and admitted you are a paid propagandist for genocidal ideals.
Ukraine is not a puppet of the US or any other nation, it is an independent and free country and people who are fighting for their own freedom against brutal Russian oppression and tyranny.
You should read Glen Greenwald's latest discussion of this question, especially his quotations of that bloodless ghoul Jen Psaki, Victoria Nuland, and John Kirby. The USG has a history of running Ukraine, from a coup to blocking a cease-fire because they want Putin out. The Biden administration and the security state are running a proxy war and have no interest in ending it.
The Empire is shrinking and its leaders are losing control of what remains, precisely because there are chinks in their propaganda armor made by independent journalists.
lol who the fuck cares about what our puppets do to the people whose kids they send out to die for American empire?
Because I have special knowledge about the actual military situation? As if anyone knows.
Yeah, I'm sure of that. It's amazing what stuff Westoids will believe.
Ukraine is not a puppet of the US or any other nation, it is an independent and free country and people who are fighting for their own freedom against brutal Russian oppression and tyranny.
Ukrainians don't die "for American empire", they willingly risk their lives to save their families and people from a Russian cultural genocide. We know from all the Russian whining about how the Russian language in Ukraine isn't given equal status with Ukrainian, that once the Russians took over, they would do all they could to eradicate Ukrainian language and culture, and most likely would follow the same Stalinist forced settlement genocides that they've already inflicted on many people in occupied lands.
There is no such thing as an "American empire". I wish there was, then we wouldn't have to deal with this bullshit. If an American Empire really existed, Russia would be far far far too afraid to challenge it. America could crush the Russian military like a bug. The only reason Russia and China are trying to fuck around, is that America's weak attitude and soft power leave the door open for them to attempt to create an empire since America doesn't already have one standing in the way.
I literally watched the video on the Russian tv thing. LOL you act like a propagandist yet you expect people to treat you like a free thinking individual.
Guy comes to this forum and sounds like a globalist giving a speech at WEF, you just forgot to mention ''our democracy'' and this would read even more than it already does like an average western politician giving a speech.
He definitely has a blind spot when it comes to Russia. But I like that at least someone is providing the opposite perspective, even though his arguments on this thread weren't the strongest. It would be exceedingly boring if everyone just had the same opinion, and it doesn't equip people to try to open the eyes of people who belong to the 95% who are pro-Ukraine.
It's hilarious how some people in this sub refuse to accept basic realities because you have to reject them as a psychological cope.
I guess that's par for the course for people who still lie and claim that Trump didn't lose the 2020 election even though he very clearly did.
Funny, because I've always pointed out that "MASSIVE FRAUD" is nonsense. The 'election' was rigged in the normal way Western elections are rigged (through media bias) and then some (rigging of election regulations), but not by massive fraud.
The basic reality is that Russia has a massive advantage over Ukraine, in military power, in manpower, in industrial capacity, regardless of how many European countries' economies and Ukrainian lives you are willing to sacrifice for your empire, regardless of how much European infrastructure you blow up, regardless of how much you defraud us with your overpriced LNG garbage.
Russia will win, whether you like it or not. Your puppet will, at best, continue to be a dysfunctional rump state - a warning to any country that wants to become the West's prostitute.
Victoria Nuland, Naftali Bennett peace proposal, John Kirby saying that a ceasefire is "unacceptable".
Legitimate orthodoxy is banned, the secret service intimidates judges to give dissenters 12 year jail sentences, Russian language media is banned, opposition parties are banned.
That is freedom the American imperialist way.
Willingly? They're being forcibly picked up from the streets, nightclubs in Kharkov are raided to pick up fresh cannon fodder for the American death machine.
Ukrainian culture and language is a product of the 'Ukrainization' campaign of the Bolsheviks.
Then stop exporting BLM and troonery to my country. Stop sanctioning Uganda for upholding traditionalism. Not you personally.
How many countries do you have military bases again?
Do you speak Russian? Your opinions are those of CNN. I consume the propaganda that both sides produce, and then I think for myself, which is why I don't buy the explanations for the Bucha mess, while you believe basically every negative story about Russia.
You’re legitimately too stupid to be on this website.
The entire operational budget of the country is being paid for by the US.
The CIA overthrew their legitimately elected government and began murdering Ukrainian citizens in order to provoke Russia into attacking.
“Making it illegal to teach children about gay anal fisting” is oppression and tyranny?
How many of them are dating “I will literally die in order to keep teaching my children that miscegenation with homosexuals is and has always been my culture”?
What about it?
Try again with something believable.
Something believable.
SOMETHING. BELIEVABLE.
Too stupid to be alive, honestly.
lol
[citation needed]
Learn what the IMF is, you stupid fucking shill.
I wish irony was fatal.
You are physically incapable of comprehending truth even when it is presented to you.
Nice long comment I stopped reading after the 1st line and just blocked you instead.
I've got a long list of haters in this sub who enjoy shouting into the void after I trigger them. Join the club.
Thanks for admitting that everything you said is objectively false and that you’re incapable of refuting my statements. You have conceded the point and admitted you are a paid propagandist for genocidal ideals.
You should read Glen Greenwald's latest discussion of this question, especially his quotations of that bloodless ghoul Jen Psaki, Victoria Nuland, and John Kirby. The USG has a history of running Ukraine, from a coup to blocking a cease-fire because they want Putin out. The Biden administration and the security state are running a proxy war and have no interest in ending it.
The Empire is shrinking and its leaders are losing control of what remains, precisely because there are chinks in their propaganda armor made by independent journalists.