That's not an argument for abortion. But it could exacerbate that issue, sure.
Don't play on their playing field and accept their premises. Why he should have stepped down was that he used this as an argument for abortion and against more pro-life pregnancy centres. Not because he stated the fact that there may be additional strain on a budget as a result.
Not only that. He's implying that he's in favor of killing people on such an arbitrary basis as intelligence. In fact, he's implying that he'd be in favor of killing people who cost the state more money than they contribute, like old people, poor people, etc.
It truly is a monstrous thing to say, as if saving some money justified murder. He clearly doesn't value human life. Not a good look for a politician. Perhaps worse of all, he didn't even realize how badly saying that would be received. That kind of idiocy would put him pretty early in the eugenics line he suggests.
that's the starting point for every communist genocide.
first they start with the invalids, then the illiterate and elderly. the US military has deemed anyone under 83 IQ is not capable of net positive contributions, so there goes over 25% of society. but wait, there's more! once the bar gets raised to tax contributions, over 90% of women are net negative... any under that line who want to survive must resort to pumping out 3+ babies to keep growing the labor supply.
this is how every communist revolution operates. you're not a human, you're a production asset. and you either produce more than you consume, or you're enslaved until you do, or you're murdered.
bernie fucking sanders was kicked out of multiple communes because he refused to work, only talked politics and philosophy.
He is perfectly suited to be a Canadian politician. What he stated is government policy in Canada, the removal of "useless eaters" from society through MAID.
It truly is a monstrous thing to say, as if saving some money justified murder. He clearly doesn't value human life. Not a good look for a politician. Perhaps worse of all, he didn't even realize how badly saying that would be received. That kind of idiocy would put him pretty early in the eugenics line he suggests.
That's because the notion that every human has inherent value is fundamentally a Christian notion. It was not a feature of even the greatest civilizations pre-Christianity. In fact, the pagan Romans mocked Christians relentlessly for it, calling Christianity "the religion of women and the poor."
As our society rejects Christianity more and more, it is inevitable that more of this will pop up. You cannot destroy the foundations of a house, and expect it to stay standing. Too many people ignore the lessons of history and take the benefits of our civilization for granted. The atrocities of the twentieth century were the result of trying to create "new" and "rational" systems of morality. The same thing happened during the 18th century French Revolution, as well.
Anyone with a functioning brain supports eugenics, whether they think about it in that terminology or not. The question is where you draw the line.
The simple act of not wanting to breed with ugly women/weak men is eugenics.
The simple act of not wanting to breed with women over 35 is eugenics.
Having fitness criteria for sperm and egg donors is eugenics.
Aborting down syndrome babies is eugenics.
All of this goes on and very few people really challenge any of it, but it's all ultimately eugenics.
This dude is right, retards should be aborted.
The strain on the school system, though, should not be the concern. The risk of their bad genes proliferating is a larger concern. The burden they place directly on their own family is the only monetary concern that isn't instantly opening the door for monstrous overreach.
I think the problem isn't that people don't support most of these measures, even if by calling it eugenics they'd pretend otherwise.
Its that once you get it beyond the individual level, and especially to the government level, it spins wildly out of control to horrible levels. Because pretty quick it goes from "abort this child to spare it a life of suffering" to "this child's Gene test said he will be a 95 IQ, kill it."
the problem is when it goes from "it's an option" to "we're going to coerce or force you to do it".
the amount of coercion and harassment they used against people who refused the covid jab, lockdowns, and other tyrannical anti-scientific policies should show unequivocally that they actively intend to coerce people.
and one of the easiest examples is withholding healthcare for people who engage in wrongthink. don't demonstrate political submission with a scientifically useless muzzle on your face? you can't even walk into a hospital. don't want to get a fraudulent experimental clot shot? you're banned from restaurants, stores, school, work, even remote work and school, and there are a giant list of medical procedures you can't get anymore.
the first people murdered in every communist revolution were the prior opposition. then were the invalids and disabled. then the illiterate were enslaved and murdered. and more and more useful idiots were marched into the gulags, usually by other useful idiots who didn't realize they're next.
It likely would.
That's not an argument for abortion. But it could exacerbate that issue, sure.
Don't play on their playing field and accept their premises. Why he should have stepped down was that he used this as an argument for abortion and against more pro-life pregnancy centres. Not because he stated the fact that there may be additional strain on a budget as a result.
Not only that. He's implying that he's in favor of killing people on such an arbitrary basis as intelligence. In fact, he's implying that he'd be in favor of killing people who cost the state more money than they contribute, like old people, poor people, etc.
It truly is a monstrous thing to say, as if saving some money justified murder. He clearly doesn't value human life. Not a good look for a politician. Perhaps worse of all, he didn't even realize how badly saying that would be received. That kind of idiocy would put him pretty early in the eugenics line he suggests.
that's the starting point for every communist genocide.
first they start with the invalids, then the illiterate and elderly. the US military has deemed anyone under 83 IQ is not capable of net positive contributions, so there goes over 25% of society. but wait, there's more! once the bar gets raised to tax contributions, over 90% of women are net negative... any under that line who want to survive must resort to pumping out 3+ babies to keep growing the labor supply.
this is how every communist revolution operates. you're not a human, you're a production asset. and you either produce more than you consume, or you're enslaved until you do, or you're murdered.
bernie fucking sanders was kicked out of multiple communes because he refused to work, only talked politics and philosophy.
What's weird is they keep recruiting them anyway
Are we sure he's not Canadian?
He is perfectly suited to be a Canadian politician. What he stated is government policy in Canada, the removal of "useless eaters" from society through MAID.
That's because the notion that every human has inherent value is fundamentally a Christian notion. It was not a feature of even the greatest civilizations pre-Christianity. In fact, the pagan Romans mocked Christians relentlessly for it, calling Christianity "the religion of women and the poor."
As our society rejects Christianity more and more, it is inevitable that more of this will pop up. You cannot destroy the foundations of a house, and expect it to stay standing. Too many people ignore the lessons of history and take the benefits of our civilization for granted. The atrocities of the twentieth century were the result of trying to create "new" and "rational" systems of morality. The same thing happened during the 18th century French Revolution, as well.
Well said.
Leftoids support eugenics.
Anyone with a functioning brain supports eugenics, whether they think about it in that terminology or not. The question is where you draw the line.
The simple act of not wanting to breed with ugly women/weak men is eugenics. The simple act of not wanting to breed with women over 35 is eugenics. Having fitness criteria for sperm and egg donors is eugenics. Aborting down syndrome babies is eugenics.
All of this goes on and very few people really challenge any of it, but it's all ultimately eugenics.
This dude is right, retards should be aborted.
The strain on the school system, though, should not be the concern. The risk of their bad genes proliferating is a larger concern. The burden they place directly on their own family is the only monetary concern that isn't instantly opening the door for monstrous overreach.
I think the problem isn't that people don't support most of these measures, even if by calling it eugenics they'd pretend otherwise.
Its that once you get it beyond the individual level, and especially to the government level, it spins wildly out of control to horrible levels. Because pretty quick it goes from "abort this child to spare it a life of suffering" to "this child's Gene test said he will be a 95 IQ, kill it."
"But doctor, the child is black!"
"Uhh quick, reclassify it as middle eastern, no one will know"
the problem is when it goes from "it's an option" to "we're going to coerce or force you to do it".
the amount of coercion and harassment they used against people who refused the covid jab, lockdowns, and other tyrannical anti-scientific policies should show unequivocally that they actively intend to coerce people.
and one of the easiest examples is withholding healthcare for people who engage in wrongthink. don't demonstrate political submission with a scientifically useless muzzle on your face? you can't even walk into a hospital. don't want to get a fraudulent experimental clot shot? you're banned from restaurants, stores, school, work, even remote work and school, and there are a giant list of medical procedures you can't get anymore.
the first people murdered in every communist revolution were the prior opposition. then were the invalids and disabled. then the illiterate were enslaved and murdered. and more and more useful idiots were marched into the gulags, usually by other useful idiots who didn't realize they're next.
There wouldn't be a strain if there wasn't a "school system"
I like your thinking.