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Politico: "The clock starts ticking on McCarthy’s speakership" (archive.is)
posted 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +13 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

The concessions the California Republican awarded his critics to secure his position all but ensure that he will operate as speaker in name only. For the first time in decades, rank-and-file members will have as much power as their leader (more on that below).

It's amazing how much you can get done if you... try, rather than doing nothing.

  1. The coming GOP battle over defense spending. As part of his deal with the right, McCarthy promised to hold a vote on a budget that will balance the deficit in a decade and cap discretionary spending levels at fiscal 2022. That could mean a 10% cut to the Pentagon.

LOL! This article was sponsored by Lockheed Martin, no doubt.

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– Kienan 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

For the first time in decades, rank-and-file members will have as much power as their leader (more on that below).

And Here's Why That's a Bad Thing!

The nerve of these creatures. And they claim to love "democracy."

As part of his deal with the right, McCarthy promised...

There they go again. They called all Republicans rightwing extremists for decades, now they're acting like that never happened, and there's this small group of "rightwingers" in the party. It's amazing.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

For the first time in decades, rank-and-file members will have as much power as their leader (more on that below).

Accountability for leadership???

POLICIA!

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– Kalamander85 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Beware the Military Industrial Complex.

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– deleted 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

INSURRECTION! You are a racist!

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– Gizortnik 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

The fact that a member of the Armed Services Committee came down to fucking threaten Gaetz publicly, means that my boy is pissing off all the right mother-fuckers.

The fact that McCarthy is now caught with Trump pulling at is left testicle, and Gaetz's populist coalition pulling at his right testicle, is a good place for him to be stuck. Even if Jim Jordan, Gaetz, or Boebert aren't going to be speaker, if they've gotten enough concessions for him to be basically eaten alive by the populists, then I consider this a proper victory. Not marginal, maybe not decisive, but proper.

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– GeneralBoobs 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

If you think those assholes will do anything different, you have not been paying attention. Trump just basically gave his blessings to Ukraine and the other bullshit. Trump's done.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I would give my blessing to Ukraine to shoot Russians. They shouldn't invade. I just don't want my tax money to be funded to Democrats, and nobody's going to make the Donbass region want to stick around at this point either.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The war in Ukraine is something we fucking started. The whole country is a giant Security State vassal state for embezzling money and that's our fault.

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– TheModernDaVinci 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

If the list of concessions that has been floating around is real, they more or less have his balls in a vice grip and can squeeze them at will.

Everyone is talking about the return to the Jeffersonian rule on Speakers where it only takes one member to call for a vote of confidence in the speaker. But some of the other rumored concessions (at least showing up in the MSM, so probably with some reasonable inside scoops) are as follows:

  1. MacCarthy-aligned PAC's stay out of primary races.
  2. Debt ceiling hikes must be paired with spending cuts.
  3. Appropriations bills moved individually instead of Omnibus.
  4. Freedom Caucus members given seats on various committees. Apparently, there will also be 3 FC members on the Rules Committee, which gives them veto authority over a significant chunk of House matters.
  5. Discretionary spending capped at 2022 levels.
  6. 72-hours required to review bills before they are allowed a floor vote.
  7. Make it easier for members to offer amendments to bills.
  8. Creation of a "Church"-style committee to investigate corruption and weaponization of US agencies, especially, but not limited to, the FBI.
  9. Restoration of the "Holman Rule", which allows for the defunding, firing, and even outright elimination of bureaucratic positions and departments without having to follow traditional appropriations rules.

If that is true, then the Populist have a huge amount of power because they grabbed MacCarthy by the balls and decided to ride the tiger instead of backing down. But hey, he seems happy since he has his precious little gavel. Which I suppose is the one good thing we have over MacCarthy compared to the likes of McConnell. MacCarthy is just a stooge who will ride with whoever will give him the power he wants. And if that means giving some significant concessions to the FC so he can think he has power, then so be it. And if he starts having second doubts because he has his buttboy Frank Luntz whispering in his ear, just squeeze his balls until he says uncle.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'll take a Useful Idiot to take back the country. 1 is a big help for Trump, but they have 2 years to re-organize. 3 should help cut down on the funding to Leftist embezzlement schemes. 4 is a big win to keep pressure on specific issues. 8 will be a major political victory in taking on the IC & FBI. But 9? Nine is where the real money is at if we can use it. Just like with "Schedule F", we need to cut 45,000 federal employees at a minimum. Getting started on that sooner rather than later can really help. If all goes well, we might be able to use that to impeach and remove Fauci from the NIH.

That being said, holy shit, if they put Chip Roy on the Rules committee, I consider that an outstanding win for America at large. After that CNN segment, I'd almost rather have him as the speaker more than Jim Jordan. Dude was such a clear and obvious, non-partisan, reformer that CNN didn't even know what to say or do about it. Byron Donalds seems like a good guy too, even if neither are obvious, aggressive, populists.

On a side note, it definitely keeps the populist movement from also letting Trump make a stupid mistake. OneTruePhilosoraptor is out there somewhere, and despite our disagreements, there's no denial that Trump is shit at picking allies. If Trump takes his eye off the ball, the populists can keep McCarthy from stabbing him in the back. Part of me genuinely hopes that this was part of that larger strategy, but I actually doubt it, because it sounds like Trump already thought he had McCarthy in the bag, which I'd say would have been a very dangerous assumption.

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– trump4044 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

GOP stooge is good guy now gaiz!

Your posts closely mirror the glowing stickies over on TD telling everyone to come together as Republicans and support McCucky.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Ehhhh. I get into with AoV as much as anyone and think he is being overly optimistic here, but it sounds like he thinks McCarthy has been successfully bullied into doing useful things rather than McCarthy actually being a good guy.

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– trump4044 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

He just got confirmed, of course they are going to talk nice to get the chumps to calm down and go back to watching sportsball.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yeah, I don't trust this shit either. It's not just McCarthy. I don't trust the people who extracted concessions out of him either. I think a lot of it is going to be Red Meat thrown to their base only to be forgotten about later, similar to how Trump was going to totally abolish birth right citizenship.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Considering the far-reaching concessions, I don't see how anyone could not support McCarthy at this point.

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– Khenal 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

"Support" is a strong word. I'm willing to go as far as "tolerate", for now.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Smart man.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I think we've found this stupid faggot's fucking vice:

Power. Fundamentally, he's one of these worthless little political critters that would kill his own family for a hall-monitor sash. He'll concede more and more, so long as he gets his stupid little fucking gable.

Good. Now we can wield it as a weapon against him and the rest of the establishment. MITCH MCCONNEL, WE COMMIN FO YOU TURTLE!

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, he was in a dead panic. He credits Sensational Sherri for being a consummate professional during the whole thing.

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