Like Cuba did? Well, America does exactly nothing nowadays, didn't support Cuban anti-communist protests in 2021, relaxes sanctions and considers lifting them altogether.
Haiti was at the worst (in modern times, that is, because historically it used to be so much worse) while under Papa Doc back when America was ignoring Haiti about as much as it does now, or as much as during the colonial times (with rivalry between Spain, France, and Britain - post independence America not included). A few private Americans tried to overthrow Papa Doc and that was all. Even after he claimed responsibility for having caused Kennedy's death with his Voodoo magic curses, they ignored him.
Maybe sell weapons to the Mexicans. Start a proxy war with Russia in Mexico. Use the situation to seize control of O&G in Venezuela under the guise of countering a Russia imitative to do the same? What ever the USA did, it likely would end in its leaders becoming richer at the cost of taxpayers. More siphoning of value away from the public and toward the corrupt regime. Whatever you think the USA would do is likely not what they would do because the USA doesn't operate on doing what's best for the country, just what's best for its rulers.
America's been selling (or just gifting) weapons to the Mexicans ever since the Mexican war of independence 210 years ago. That's including billions of dollars in weapons and other assistance given in recent years to Mexico to fight the narco armies.
(And also Operation Fast and Furious lmao. Fucking ATF, man.)
Now, American government didn't even support protests in Venezuela, just like they didn't with the protests in Cuba.
In the old times, of course, they would support the rebels like in Nicaragua (Americans don't do anything about Nicaragua since 1990 even as the same people are still at power there as in the 1980s, when Nicaragua cinematically invaded America in Red Dawn) or a coup (an actual coup, like Pinochet's in Chile and in so many other countries in Central and South America, and not a revolution like Ukraine that retards like Bernier call a coup).
Or even just invade, like in Panama or Grenada - the Marines going in and removing the (military) governments from power in 1 day. There were also earlier interventions in Dominicana and elsewhere, and of course repeatedly in Mexico during the Mexican Revolution(s) period.
But they just don't do it anymore ever since the Cold War ended. There's been a continued DEA activity in Colombia and that's all.
For as much as the likes of Che used to fight against what they called "American imperialists", the American government today doesn't even care anymore about the Latin America (nor Argentina, where America used to support the fascistic junta until the Argies went full retard and attacked Britain).
There was also an intervention in Haiti in like 1997 or so, but today the Americans don't even respond to Haiti as the government keeps begging for an American intervention against the rival gang alliances literally taking the country hostage.
"we" didn't expand. Ukrainians simply wanted to be pro-EU because Russia is poor and shitty while the EU is wealthy.
Russia has no "sphere of influence" as the USSR is dead and buried, and Russia is a poor, weak country which has no power to enforce spheres of influence against anybody.
Nobody "provoked" Russia, Putin is just a naked aggressor.
Nobody said Ukraine would or could join NATO prior to Russia's 2022 invasion. NOW, though? It's a certainty that Ukraine will.
What do you think the US would do if Mexico entered into a political and military alliance with Russia?
Supremely idiotic talking point.
Ukraine did not "entered into a political and military alliance" with anyone, did they? Russia's whole little tantrum is over this nebulous idea that they might have at some unknown point in the future. Therefore, you cannot paint an analogy to Mexico actually entering into an alliance with Russia.
Nothing would happen. Proof: Venezuela already did this shit and we did nothing. Cuba already did this shit and we have done nothing since the 1960s. You don't think Cuba's alliance with the USSR ended after the Cuban Missile Crisis, did you? It's continued this whole time and nobody in the US gives a shit.
Russia is so bad that it makes globohomo look amazing by comparison. Russia has done more to help globohomo than any other nation on earth.
What would you prefer to live in? A racially unified society with strong heritage, a patriarchy, where white men aren't oppressed, objective moral values you agree with etc... or a gynocratic hellhole where you have enough wealth to blow it all on hookers and blow because the society is so vapid superficial and terrible to live in... but at least you have wealth. Lol. That's the lie that has been fed to a lot of eastern europeans. Wealth is not better than culture. Destroying white societies in the name of wealth is not worth it.
You're just making that shit up in your mind. I've actually been learning a little Russia and have been applying to jobs there to get out of the west. The west is a terrible place to live I hate it here. The best thing I could do is find a fully remote western job and live in a country other than a western one.
Yanukovich received a plurality in the first round and a majority in the second round. You're correct that there is a clear divide in the country, but if Dekachin is going to make broad claims about the country as a whole, the claim that Ukrainians wanted to be pro-EU despite the 2010 electoral results is false.
Then, later, they changed their minds and voted the other direction
No they didn't. There were 6.5 million less votes in the 2014 election than in 2010. The pro-EU side didn't win because people changed their minds to become pro-EU, they won because the pro-Russia side didn't bother to vote because revolutionaries overthrowing their previous candidate proved their votes didn't matter.
At the beginning of 2008, the Ukrainian President, Prime Minister and head of parliament sent an official letter (the so-called "letter of three") to apply for the Membership Action Plan.
In February 2008 57.8% of Ukrainians supported the idea of a national referendum on joining NATO
At the NATO summit in Bucharest in April 2008, NATO decided it would not yet offer membership to Georgia and Ukraine. Resistance was reportedly met from France and Germany. President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev responded that "reason has prevailed".
So the real history is the opposite of what you claim it was.
That's the problem I have with you Russia shills: you all lie so fucking much.
He's right. We expanded into Russia's sphere of influence and provoked them with implications that Ukraine would join NATO.
What do you think the US would do if Mexico entered into a political and military alliance with Russia?
Ironically use the rampant criminal corruption as an excuse to annex the country to conduct a gang purge lol.
Like Cuba did? Well, America does exactly nothing nowadays, didn't support Cuban anti-communist protests in 2021, relaxes sanctions and considers lifting them altogether.
In the also America-neighbouring Haiti, the government has kept begging for an American intervention against the gangs taking over the country for more than 1 year, but America isn't interested in getting involved, too. Maybe as a part of international force (https://www.crisisgroup.org/latin-america-caribbean/haiti/b048-haitis-last-resort-gangs-and-prospect-foreign-intervention) but not alone.
Honestly, intervening in Haiti is a favorite American past time, and we always manage to make it horrifically worse every time.
Haiti was at the worst (in modern times, that is, because historically it used to be so much worse) while under Papa Doc back when America was ignoring Haiti about as much as it does now, or as much as during the colonial times (with rivalry between Spain, France, and Britain - post independence America not included). A few private Americans tried to overthrow Papa Doc and that was all. Even after he claimed responsibility for having caused Kennedy's death with his Voodoo magic curses, they ignored him.
There were still multiple US military incursions in other eras. Additionally, US NGO's and IC's have been aggressively involved in the country.
Maybe sell weapons to the Mexicans. Start a proxy war with Russia in Mexico. Use the situation to seize control of O&G in Venezuela under the guise of countering a Russia imitative to do the same? What ever the USA did, it likely would end in its leaders becoming richer at the cost of taxpayers. More siphoning of value away from the public and toward the corrupt regime. Whatever you think the USA would do is likely not what they would do because the USA doesn't operate on doing what's best for the country, just what's best for its rulers.
America's been selling (or just gifting) weapons to the Mexicans ever since the Mexican war of independence 210 years ago. That's including billions of dollars in weapons and other assistance given in recent years to Mexico to fight the narco armies.
(And also Operation Fast and Furious lmao. Fucking ATF, man.)
Now, American government didn't even support protests in Venezuela, just like they didn't with the protests in Cuba.
In the old times, of course, they would support the rebels like in Nicaragua (Americans don't do anything about Nicaragua since 1990 even as the same people are still at power there as in the 1980s, when Nicaragua cinematically invaded America in Red Dawn) or a coup (an actual coup, like Pinochet's in Chile and in so many other countries in Central and South America, and not a revolution like Ukraine that retards like Bernier call a coup).
Or even just invade, like in Panama or Grenada - the Marines going in and removing the (military) governments from power in 1 day. There were also earlier interventions in Dominicana and elsewhere, and of course repeatedly in Mexico during the Mexican Revolution(s) period.
But they just don't do it anymore ever since the Cold War ended. There's been a continued DEA activity in Colombia and that's all.
For as much as the likes of Che used to fight against what they called "American imperialists", the American government today doesn't even care anymore about the Latin America (nor Argentina, where America used to support the fascistic junta until the Argies went full retard and attacked Britain).
There was also an intervention in Haiti in like 1997 or so, but today the Americans don't even respond to Haiti as the government keeps begging for an American intervention against the rival gang alliances literally taking the country hostage.
"we" didn't expand. Ukrainians simply wanted to be pro-EU because Russia is poor and shitty while the EU is wealthy.
Russia has no "sphere of influence" as the USSR is dead and buried, and Russia is a poor, weak country which has no power to enforce spheres of influence against anybody.
Nobody "provoked" Russia, Putin is just a naked aggressor.
Nobody said Ukraine would or could join NATO prior to Russia's 2022 invasion. NOW, though? It's a certainty that Ukraine will.
Supremely idiotic talking point.
Ukraine did not "entered into a political and military alliance" with anyone, did they? Russia's whole little tantrum is over this nebulous idea that they might have at some unknown point in the future. Therefore, you cannot paint an analogy to Mexico actually entering into an alliance with Russia.
Nothing would happen. Proof: Venezuela already did this shit and we did nothing. Cuba already did this shit and we have done nothing since the 1960s. You don't think Cuba's alliance with the USSR ended after the Cuban Missile Crisis, did you? It's continued this whole time and nobody in the US gives a shit.
Russia is so bad that it makes globohomo look amazing by comparison. Russia has done more to help globohomo than any other nation on earth.
What would you prefer to live in? A racially unified society with strong heritage, a patriarchy, where white men aren't oppressed, objective moral values you agree with etc... or a gynocratic hellhole where you have enough wealth to blow it all on hookers and blow because the society is so vapid superficial and terrible to live in... but at least you have wealth. Lol. That's the lie that has been fed to a lot of eastern europeans. Wealth is not better than culture. Destroying white societies in the name of wealth is not worth it.
everyone would rather live in the rich West, which is why all immigration flows one direction from poor to rich.
nobody is clamoring to immigrate to Russia right now. this includes you, and all the other shills in this sub trying to lipstick that turd.
You're just making that shit up in your mind. I've actually been learning a little Russia and have been applying to jobs there to get out of the west. The west is a terrible place to live I hate it here. The best thing I could do is find a fully remote western job and live in a country other than a western one.
Kiev wanted to be pro-EU. Ukraine voted for the pro-Russian ethnic Russian guy.
East Ukraine. West Ukraine was pro-EU. The divisions are quite real.
Yanukovich received a plurality in the first round and a majority in the second round. You're correct that there is a clear divide in the country, but if Dekachin is going to make broad claims about the country as a whole, the claim that Ukrainians wanted to be pro-EU despite the 2010 electoral results is false.
Sure, in 1 election they did that. Then, later, they changed their minds and voted the other direction and have consistently voted pro-EU ever since.
Why do you respect the feelings of the Ukrainian people only when they vote pro-russia but not otherwise? Hmmmmmm.
No they didn't. There were 6.5 million less votes in the 2014 election than in 2010. The pro-EU side didn't win because people changed their minds to become pro-EU, they won because the pro-Russia side didn't bother to vote because revolutionaries overthrowing their previous candidate proved their votes didn't matter.
Lies. NATO documents that it has been courting Ukraine since 1991 on its own website: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_37750.htm
They also stated their intent to add Ukraine to NATO in both 2008 and 2021 (again, from their own website):
That was 5 minutes of web searching. So, are you a paid shill or just a Ukrainian ex-pat true believer?
Please use archive links for sites like that. https://archive.ph/r7QDT
LOL
At the beginning of 2008, the Ukrainian President, Prime Minister and head of parliament sent an official letter (the so-called "letter of three") to apply for the Membership Action Plan.
In February 2008 57.8% of Ukrainians supported the idea of a national referendum on joining NATO
At the NATO summit in Bucharest in April 2008, NATO decided it would not yet offer membership to Georgia and Ukraine. Resistance was reportedly met from France and Germany. President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev responded that "reason has prevailed".
So the real history is the opposite of what you claim it was.
That's the problem I have with you Russia shills: you all lie so fucking much.
The quote is from NATO's own website. Take your concerns to them.
EU gdp per capita $37,280
Russia gdp per capita $14,665
It's clear which side is richer.