Matt Taibbi has the goods on Twitter's Trump ban
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Trump Whitehouse never called to censor. Nor did any republicans.
Are conservatives too lazy to play this game?
Because Big Tech isn’t going anywhere…
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1601367426129543169?s=21
Or do they believe SF activists will treat them fairly?
Conservatives should be careful about playing the censorship game. They need to have the balls to fight fire with fire but also be aware that a huge part of their base cares about free speech and moral consistency. When the dust settles we need to be able to build something good and free.
OTOH, I'm fully in favor of 'enemies of free speech don't get free speech'. Yeah, yeah, free speech is only free speech when everyone has it, but one of the best ways to stop an enemy without principles is to show that you're willing to use the same weapons and tactics. Give them a reason to deescalate and care about the precedent their setting. The punishment fits the crime.
Principles are what you use to keep enemies in line after you've defeated them. They're worse than useless if you adhere to them for the sake of losing with dignity, the way Bush-style compassionate conservatives desperately want to.
I agree in general but there are still some lines we need to be careful about crossing. It's not always easy to walk things back once you've started them. These things have inertia.
At the very least I don't think conservatives should secretly collude to censor, because that's not colluding against the enemy it's colluding against the people.
And being shown to not do that when democrats are doing it freely could gain us a lot of support. We're starting to win the battle for hearts and minds and we shouldn't underestimate the importance of that, we need to be really careful about anything that could ruin it.
Fight back, and fight back using their weapons, but if possible, fight back with a rallying cry from the people you're fighting for, not a chorus of boos.
Conservatives aren't winning shit. AIDS medicine is marketable enough they buy spots for it on Fox News. There are open, publicly advertised child molestation parties in every major city in America with the explicit support of the local police, who would happily kill anybody who threatened the shows. It cost $44 billion dollars to free one website from the direct control of a guy who wrote his doctoral thesis about his experience with a gay dating app. You literally can't hold a pro-Trump/pro-any-right-wing issue rally in any major city except maybe Miami without being attacked by violent masked communists who fear absolutely no consequences whatsoever.
Yes, they have the institutions and the influence. There's no denying that. But we are starting to win the people. Or rather, they're losing them. It's hard to say yet, there's decades of propaganda to be undone. But truth is on our side and they can only suppress that so much.
I wouldn't say we're winning the people, just that they're losing some of them.
They might be able to say they don't like Biden, but they would never dare say they support Trump either out of fear or because they still hate him.
The reason you can't replicate the tactics of your enemies is because your enemy literally isn't you. You have completely different problems, strategies, objectives, logistics, and weapons.
It's like saying, "How does the Taliban expect to win in Afghanistan if it won't deploy fixed-win air-support during their offensives?!!" It's because they can't, and trying to get air-support with no capability of preforming maintenance isn't worth it. So they develop different strategies.
For example, try this:
Play a game of chess, but literally only match your opponent's move for move.
You will lose 100% of the time, because your actions are predictable, and the moment you are placed in check, you won't be able to counter your opponent's strategy from that point on.
I'd argue it's better for them NOT to censor strategically, just look how much the left goes after Libsoftiktok or Project Veritas, they know sunlight and having people push back on them without fear of censorship exposes what degenerate scam artists they are.
Yeah, I don't think that would have worked. Twitter would have leaked it to the media, and it would have been a multiyear manufactured scandal. How dare they do what we do on the regular!
I do understand what you mean. It's like liberals demanding all of Poland, while conservatives say that all of Poland should be free - which means that the 'compromise' will likely be that they get part of it.
The funny thing about attacking pornography in schools for children is that it forced the radical left to rediscover "free speech". Not for your political views, they're hate speech and should be censored, but keep your hands off of porn for kids!
Well - maybe we should push to censor their holiest activities:
Republicans could Ask big tech to censor any talk that could cause incitement of 9th month “lifestyle” abortions.
In an alternative universe, Republicans are pro-choice, Democrats pro-life, and Democrats accuse Republicans of 'voter suppression' and racism for advocating for abortion for a group that is disproportionately minority and poor - supporters of Democrats.
Wooooo! Can't wait for absolutley nothing to come of this!
It's still ongoing.
And Michael Shellenberger and Bari Weiss will be doing some more reporting.
Excellent choices by Elon. All three are on the left, but they are also honest and pro-free speech, so they can't be accused of harboring sympathies for the dreaded right. Not that this will stop the weirdos from making the claims anyway, but it will be much easier to refute.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1601352083617505281
Me can no read that. No pictures.
Bruh.
What? That they would do it anyway. Sure, but the accusation won't land as well than if it was someone who was openly right-wing.
At this point I started laughing.
That twitter - a massive forum for frenzied halfwits sniping at each other with broken half-sentences - ever became this important. Why would the twisted halfwits at Twitter ever be entrusted with such power and how much were they paid? rofl
Clown world.
Because the federal government wants to centralize speech in a controllable platform. This is the danger of seeing Twitter as a utility or a right.
Useful and Degenerate Idiots are very easy to control.
There was a hearing. Jack Dorsey was literally lying to Ted Cruz's face the entire time.
This is the correct way to disrupt power: using the market to break up collective support. Regulators rarely do anything but perpetuate corruption.
Take FTX for example. "SBF" was so well connected that he's still not being criminally charged because of his donations to the Democratic party, and his embezzling of military aid to Ukraine. FTX was one of the leading advocates for regulating the crypto market, and SBF had testified to congress and offered legislation that could be used to regulate it.
But, because he pissed off a different wealthy elite who destroyed FTX's stock price in the course of a day or so, the entire scandal exploded, and FTX is being sued by hundreds of creditors. All while they are stealing depositor's funds. The government is now using the FTX scandal to... argue for the regulation of the crypto market using the legislation that FTX put forward in the first place.
The people promising to clean up the market are the ones trying to hand it to FTX. The only time SBF was held accountable is when a different elite blew up his empire by selling his stock.