Matt Taibbi has the goods on Twitter's Trump ban
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Trump Whitehouse never called to censor. Nor did any republicans.
Are conservatives too lazy to play this game?
Because Big Tech isn’t going anywhere…
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1601367426129543169?s=21
Or do they believe SF activists will treat them fairly?
Conservatives should be careful about playing the censorship game. They need to have the balls to fight fire with fire but also be aware that a huge part of their base cares about free speech and moral consistency. When the dust settles we need to be able to build something good and free.
OTOH, I'm fully in favor of 'enemies of free speech don't get free speech'. Yeah, yeah, free speech is only free speech when everyone has it, but one of the best ways to stop an enemy without principles is to show that you're willing to use the same weapons and tactics. Give them a reason to deescalate and care about the precedent their setting. The punishment fits the crime.
Principles are what you use to keep enemies in line after you've defeated them. They're worse than useless if you adhere to them for the sake of losing with dignity, the way Bush-style compassionate conservatives desperately want to.
I agree in general but there are still some lines we need to be careful about crossing. It's not always easy to walk things back once you've started them. These things have inertia.
At the very least I don't think conservatives should secretly collude to censor, because that's not colluding against the enemy it's colluding against the people.
And being shown to not do that when democrats are doing it freely could gain us a lot of support. We're starting to win the battle for hearts and minds and we shouldn't underestimate the importance of that, we need to be really careful about anything that could ruin it.
Fight back, and fight back using their weapons, but if possible, fight back with a rallying cry from the people you're fighting for, not a chorus of boos.
Conservatives aren't winning shit. AIDS medicine is marketable enough they buy spots for it on Fox News. There are open, publicly advertised child molestation parties in every major city in America with the explicit support of the local police, who would happily kill anybody who threatened the shows. It cost $44 billion dollars to free one website from the direct control of a guy who wrote his doctoral thesis about his experience with a gay dating app. You literally can't hold a pro-Trump/pro-any-right-wing issue rally in any major city except maybe Miami without being attacked by violent masked communists who fear absolutely no consequences whatsoever.
The reason you can't replicate the tactics of your enemies is because your enemy literally isn't you. You have completely different problems, strategies, objectives, logistics, and weapons.
It's like saying, "How does the Taliban expect to win in Afghanistan if it won't deploy fixed-win air-support during their offensives?!!" It's because they can't, and trying to get air-support with no capability of preforming maintenance isn't worth it. So they develop different strategies.
For example, try this:
Play a game of chess, but literally only match your opponent's move for move.
You will lose 100% of the time, because your actions are predictable, and the moment you are placed in check, you won't be able to counter your opponent's strategy from that point on.
I'd argue it's better for them NOT to censor strategically, just look how much the left goes after Libsoftiktok or Project Veritas, they know sunlight and having people push back on them without fear of censorship exposes what degenerate scam artists they are.
Yeah, I don't think that would have worked. Twitter would have leaked it to the media, and it would have been a multiyear manufactured scandal. How dare they do what we do on the regular!
I do understand what you mean. It's like liberals demanding all of Poland, while conservatives say that all of Poland should be free - which means that the 'compromise' will likely be that they get part of it.
The funny thing about attacking pornography in schools for children is that it forced the radical left to rediscover "free speech". Not for your political views, they're hate speech and should be censored, but keep your hands off of porn for kids!
Well - maybe we should push to censor their holiest activities:
Republicans could Ask big tech to censor any talk that could cause incitement of 9th month “lifestyle” abortions.
In an alternative universe, Republicans are pro-choice, Democrats pro-life, and Democrats accuse Republicans of 'voter suppression' and racism for advocating for abortion for a group that is disproportionately minority and poor - supporters of Democrats.