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Gen Z not seeing point of degree (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +38 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Student loans should have no government involvement and go through an underwriting process like any other loan. Colleges wouldn't be able to charge what they do if the banks had an incentive to make sure they were paid back. No sane lender would shell out $200k for a gender studies degree.

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– Vicious_snek6 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

No sane lender would do so except as a bribe towards favoured politicians and their kids*

Same as book advances

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– dagthegnome 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

A little of both, probably.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Yes

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– SoctaticMethod1 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Please have an increase number going to trade schools, PLEASE it'll be a huge saving grace if more are focused on practical skills instead.

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– Smith1980 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

There are some things that a college degree can be useful for but to act as if every job needs one is absurd

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– acp_k2win 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

no degrees are useful under the current regime where someone has to get 40 useless marxist indoctrination credits in "humanities"

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– Smith1980 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

True. I was thinking of legit STEM type degrees but you see how that has been infested

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– FuckGenderPolitics 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

A lot of jobs just have the requirement as a filter instead of actually requiring college level skills. Of course that stops working when everyone and their mother has a degree because the colleges pass every retard who shows up in the name of wokeness. The only degrees that are worth anything are STEM, and only certain parts of STEM.

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– dagthegnome 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I think the politicization of climate science, virology and immunology over the past few years has reduced huge areas of STEM to the same level as an arts degree.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I agree with you, but I was referring to unmarketable parts as much as the politicalized parts. You would be shocked how worthless a physics degree is without a graduate degree for example. That was true for a biology degree long before the left decided to excise politically inconvenient parts of that field. It's mostly engineering, programming, and the more applied parts of math and statistics that are still useful. Even then you have to be careful that you don't end up in the subfield that gets outsourced to India.

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– anonymous570861 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Unfortunately there are a lot of jobs that require a degree just because. You can have someone with all the experience needed, have all the knowledge required and management skills, but if you don't have the magic paper that is a college diploma then you won't get the job.

We really need to push Republicans on the state & federal level to allow IQ tests for jobs. SCOTUS banned it in the 1980s under "muh Civil Rights" but I think the current SCOTUS would overturn that decision.

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– YouAreAPirate 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I can imagine it falls into a few additional camps:

  1. Wise to the fact that a Tertiary degree is hardly worth the paper it's printed on (Prior work experience and/ or established professional connections have exponentially more value)

  2. A tertiary degree in field X doesn't guarantee a career in field X. Hell, in many cases it is an active detriment (Figure that out).

The tertiary system could do with a massive downsize. If Government is going to be involved in education, it needs to massivley focus its scope on what the nation truly, desperatley needs to survive and thrive and put tertiary funding towards those fields. People also need to reasses the "prestige" of tertiary qualifications. You don't need a degree to succeed.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

A part of college used to be making connections with people for projects. Since most of that can be done online and the schools only allow you to meet specific people, it loses that quickly.

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