About time. Getting paid for their work is the only right thing. They should work to pay for their own incarceration, but they should also get something extra for it as well.
I agree there are good practical reasons for this, and to go off on a tangent: it reminds me how, in general, such discussions about public policy and funding programs would be more broadly accepted or successful (but maybe less impactful?) if they were framed that way rather than right vs. wrong. For example with costs of healthcare in the US and how to help the poor. People across the political spectrum usually agree that healthcare is too expensive, and before 2012 we were gradually getting new state-run health service programs that filled the gap between private insurance and indigent care. It's possible that conservatives could have been convinced on the benefits of targeted funding in some areas, but liberals are moralists and had to engage in mass propaganda campaigns to hit us all on the head with HEALTHCARE IS A RIGHT!
Naturally many of us were like "no, fuck off with your socialized medicine bullshit", and the political lines were drawn.
Kamala: " No fucking way California is going on that list! You know how long I had to spend on my knees to get those prisoners to stay in jail for my discount?!"
I also note that NY is not on the list. After all, Hochul needs to be able to copy Cuomo's work of having prisoners make ridiculously foul-smelling hand sanitizer for pennies and then trying to accuse companies of price-gouging when they can't match his labor-free prices.
For "victimless" crimes like drugs and prostitution the earnings should go back as a refund to the taxpayers.
This is kind of what happens when people get out. In addition to jail/prison sentences, many people are assigned reparations to the state. it gets pretty ridiculous, though. I met a guy who owed the state or county or whatever 50k for having <1g of marijuana concentrates. I mean make a guy do community service or something. Placing what amounts to an insurmountable debt for most felons isn't helping with rehabilitation. They're just incentivized to work under the table so they can actually keep some money.
Btw, this guy I met (in jail), his other option was to spend something like 6 months in jail. So guess what he did?
A friend is paid about 50 cents an hour for his work.
I think the most interesting thing I've heard about is D&D stuff. The prisons are very careful, because it's a great way to keep people controlled, but one bad roll means a murder.
About time. Getting paid for their work is the only right thing. They should work to pay for their own incarceration, but they should also get something extra for it as well.
Yes, so when they're released, they're not stone broke.
Also, they'd know how to do something useful, and have a sense that hard work pays off.
I'm inclined to support it as well, not because it's "the right thing", but because it reinforces good behavior.
I agree there are good practical reasons for this, and to go off on a tangent: it reminds me how, in general, such discussions about public policy and funding programs would be more broadly accepted or successful (but maybe less impactful?) if they were framed that way rather than right vs. wrong. For example with costs of healthcare in the US and how to help the poor. People across the political spectrum usually agree that healthcare is too expensive, and before 2012 we were gradually getting new state-run health service programs that filled the gap between private insurance and indigent care. It's possible that conservatives could have been convinced on the benefits of targeted funding in some areas, but liberals are moralists and had to engage in mass propaganda campaigns to hit us all on the head with HEALTHCARE IS A RIGHT!
Naturally many of us were like "no, fuck off with your socialized medicine bullshit", and the political lines were drawn.
No I mean the fact is it costs more to incarcerate them than their labor is worth... which is not necessarily their fault.
What should happen is they should be directly involved in their own upkeep. Libtards should like this because that's how Europe does it.
There is a ton of stuff done by prisoners for the medical community in the Northwest. One of the top lense makers in Washington State is a prison.
Kamala: " No fucking way California is going on that list! You know how long I had to spend on my knees to get those prisoners to stay in jail for my discount?!"
I also note that NY is not on the list. After all, Hochul needs to be able to copy Cuomo's work of having prisoners make ridiculously foul-smelling hand sanitizer for pennies and then trying to accuse companies of price-gouging when they can't match his labor-free prices.
The prisoners should be paid, with 100% of the earnings going to their victims.
For "victimless" crimes like drugs and prostitution the earnings should go back as a refund to the taxpayers.
This is kind of what happens when people get out. In addition to jail/prison sentences, many people are assigned reparations to the state. it gets pretty ridiculous, though. I met a guy who owed the state or county or whatever 50k for having <1g of marijuana concentrates. I mean make a guy do community service or something. Placing what amounts to an insurmountable debt for most felons isn't helping with rehabilitation. They're just incentivized to work under the table so they can actually keep some money.
Btw, this guy I met (in jail), his other option was to spend something like 6 months in jail. So guess what he did?
Slavery? What a batshit crazy title.
Yeah, I'll admit that's why I gave it the click. It's also why I put in a different title.
Racial discrimination = equity
Voter ID = Jim Crow
Prison labor = Slavery
Glossary of the new left
Oh and
Border enforcement = Holocaust
Do they receive the money at the end of their sentence? Like what would they do with a check while they're on prison
Most inmates in lower-security prisons have canteen funds that they can access to use for things like cigarettes or snack food.
A friend is paid about 50 cents an hour for his work.
I think the most interesting thing I've heard about is D&D stuff. The prisons are very careful, because it's a great way to keep people controlled, but one bad roll means a murder.
when "murder hobos" get too real
Thanks for the laugh.
I would think dice would be bad news in a place where you have a lot of people that like to gamble and to do violence.
I'm not sure people with slightly-above-room-temperature IQ could do the math for probability of rolling a thirteen with a D20 and D8.
Right, they'd be playing: High roll for the canned peaches. Always something to fight about, though.
I'm told it's one of the more common things because the prison guards have a lot more control around it than regular dice and gambling.