Australians worship Abos. The Commonwealth whites are so much worse than American whites. It's not even close. Those dumb crackers didn't even do slavery, and they then fall all over themselves worshiping blacks like a coal burning danger hair on twitter giving out STDs as reparations.
Ah, so Western culture sucks but they are perfectly happy to use computers and the internet to send you threats? If these clowns love Aboriginal "culture" so much, they should go live like them.
True. This is extreme even by those standards, though...
$550,000 fine for using existing walking tracks? That's enough to bankrupt most people.
The removal of any and all existing lookouts, even on surrounding private land? The copyrighting of the image of the mountain, and forcing private businesses to be unable to use that image (one woke brewery has already changed its logo, and it is NAMED after the mountain. And that's before this has even come into place)..?
It's so extraordinarily extreme that I can't help but think this is part of some broader "divide and conquer" strategy...
They weren't even this extreme when they closed Ayers Rock. Something very weird is going on, here...
The left hates humanity, and many whites hate themselves. THOSE whites especially, therefore, are natural anti-humanists. Your country is run by those. It is indicative of "divide and conquer", but subjugation - it seems - is only the means... Extermination seems to be the end-goal: literal anti-humanism.
Public hangings of these such-creed-holding evil rulers, and a return to God and pro-humanity by the people at large, are the fixes.
I think I saw that in a Facebook comment about this earlier...
It's $4000-$4500. That's all. If they even enforce it. Which they usually don't, if the perp is an Abo/usually a kid of one of the regime members themselves...
If they didn't have hypocrisy, they would have nothing. That's where we're at, unfortunately...
Article text, because this is just so extreme that it deserves to be seen:
In June this year, the New South Wales ‘Liberal’ government announced plans to hand over control of all our NSW National Parks to Aboriginal Groups that live nearby. Now, with the release to the Wollumbin Aboriginal Place Management Plan (Mount Warning National Park) by NSW ‘Liberal’ government Minister for Environment and Heritage, the Hon James Griffin MP, and the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Tourism, the Hon Benjamin Franklin MP, we see how future access to our collective natural heritage will be managed.
In short, it means ignoring dissenting Aboriginal voices, closure of the park, banning public access under the threat of $550,000 fines, and removing the summit lookouts, helipads, and presumably the important geodetic survey markers – all trace of Western culture. The plan even allows for copyrighting the image of Mt Warning.
What was once billed internationally as a magnificent walk to witness the first sunrise in Australia will soon be the exclusive property of a small group disgruntled activists who, like Tolkien’s Gollum, want to keep ‘the precious’ for themselves.
If this is a taste of things to come the public will no longer have any National Parks in NSW to enjoy.
Key points about the plan (extracts in italics).
Public Access will be banned:
‘Access to Wollumbin AP must be restricted and managed […] Public access is not culturally appropriate or culturally safe, Wollumbin AP should not be a recreational space for the public to visit or use for tourism (including use of the image of Wollumbin AP for advertising purposes) or any other purpose. Closure of the Wollumbin AP is sought immediately by the WCG’s Wollumbin Aboriginal stakeholders.’
Once the plan is in place the act of respectfully walking to the summit on the 110-year-old track built by locals will constitute ‘harm’ and attract a fine of up to $550,000. Where on earth does this seem a reasonable and proportionate response to someone bushwalking on a long-established track? In comparison, damaging or desecrating a Western Cultural place attracts a maximum penalty of a mere $4,400.
Mt Warning is one of the best preserved eroded shield volcanoes on the planet and has been used for many decades as a showcase of volcanic landforms to teach upcoming geologists about volcanic processes. But soon, even access for scientific purposes will require a nod to myth and superstition as any requests for access will be ‘based on cultural guidance from the WCG and be done on a case-by-case basis’.
Removing lookouts and other signs of western civilisation:
All traces of Western Civilisation is to be removed!
‘All existing infrastructure should be removed with the minimal amount of impact.’
The entire park will be closed:
‘The WCG recommend further cultural assessment toward a declaration and re-gazettal of all the Wollumbin National Park (Mt Warning National Park) as an Aboriginal Place due to the multitude of Aboriginal sites and the high cultural significance of all of the area within the reserve.’
It was developed and implemented in secrecy:
It’s sacred, but you will not be allowed to know why.
‘Culturally sensitive stories and cultural knowledge will not be shared with the public through interpretive signage, community education/awareness activities or in this management plan.’
Did not consult with all custodians:
Dissenting views of Aboriginal elders like Ngaraakwal Elder Marlene Boyd and Ngaraakwal/Githabul elder Harry Boyd were not taken into account. Marlene famously stated before she died in 2007: ‘I do not oppose the public climbing of Mt Warning – how can the public experience the spiritual significance of this land if they do not climb the summit and witness creation!’ Her inspirational message is missing from the plan.
The plan is built on extremist interpretations of Australian colonial history:
No wonder the plan is flawed when the very foundation is built on a lie.
‘Wollumbin Mountain was observed by Captain James Cook on the 15 May 1770 during his survey of the east coast. This journey marked the beginning of the systematic invasion of Australia and all Aboriginal land by Europeans, leading to indescribable trauma and destruction. Violent clashes in the 1840s to 1850s between Aboriginal nations and cedar getters, and the defence of their lands by these nations resulted in massacres, killings, ambushes and poisonings and the movement of some Aboriginal people from the area.’
Embraces superstition and myths:
We can respectfully enter any church, mosque, or temple on the planet. In Australia, we now ban access to nature’s temple. The plan indicates this new signage will be placed at the base of the track:
‘You enter this Mountain breaking the traditional law and customs of the Bundjalung people and the sacred and significant Mountain, under the Bundjalung traditional laws and customs given to the 14 Bundjalung tribes by men. The past Elders of all the tribes agreed to shut this Mountain, and you walk this track without the consent of the Bundjalung people. As spoken by the Traditional Owners as to uphold our traditional laws and customs with the wishes of past Elders.’
Sexist:
Not only does the plan discriminate against non-Aboriginal people it discriminates against Aboriginal women, some of whom do not agree Mount Warning is a Men’s area:
Appendix B Baseline site condition report – Restricted to men.
Appendix F Plates from Baseline site condition report – Restricted to men.
Impact extends outside park:
The plan’s influence extends outside the park and provides for ‘removal of infrastructure’ on overlooking spurs and ridges that impacts the purported ‘cultural values’. How many local residents with views of Mount Warning will need to relocate? How many power lines and communication towers will need to be demolished so a few are not offended?
‘Development within the views and vistas of Wollumbin AP could affect intervisibility to important cultural sites. Impacts could include things like building on spurs and ridges. Further suburban development within the views and vistas of Wollumbin AP will impact on the aesthetics, connection to Country and the cultural landscape which are integral to the cultural values of Wollumbin AP. Removal of infrastructure will occur once the summit is closed in the future.’
Discrimination:
While the public will be banned from the summit and park, access for the select and privileged members of the Wollumbin Consultative Group (WCG) will continue. That is if they can complete the ‘dangerous and difficult’ walk to the summit. Perhaps a chair lift will be required.
‘Cultural access by the WCG for cultural renewal and activities should continue and continue after closure as culturally appropriate in consultation with NSW NPWS in relation to access safety/condition of path.’
Inconsistent:
Despite a desire by the WCG to continue to have access to the summit the track will be allowed to overgrow? Perhaps a chairlift is planned? Or maybe the state government will provide a helicopter for cultural access?
‘The WCG’s preferred method for erosion control of the Wollumbin Summit Track is not to bring in topsoil or erosion barriers, but to close the track and allow Wollumbin Mountain to heal itself, by allowing vegetation to grow over the track and stabilise sediments.’
No doubt the public will continue to bear the cost of maintaining access for a select few.
Existing infrastructure in good condition – but let’s rip it out:
‘Infrastructure included helipads, viewing platforms, bench seats, timber and other construction, steps, boardwalks, and ramps within Wollumbin AP and carparking and other amenities at the base of the walking track. This infrastructure was all in good condition, however, the management goal of the WCG is to close access to Wollumbin AP and remove the infrastructure.’
For over 20 years NSW NPWS have been on a mission to ban the public from the mountain. Sadly with the acquiescence of a weak-kneed morally bankrupt ‘Liberal’ government this has now come to fruition. One wonders how the bureaucrats will be able to sleep having destroyed public access to so much awe and wonder.
Which National Park will be next?
I've never seen anything quite like this before. Madness...
The plan’s influence extends outside the park and provides for ‘removal of infrastructure’ on overlooking spurs and ridges that impacts the purported ‘cultural values’. How many local residents with views of Mount Warning will need to relocate? How many power lines and communication towers will need to be demolished so a few are not offended?
‘Development within the views and vistas of Wollumbin AP could affect intervisibility to important cultural sites. Impacts could include things like building on spurs and ridges. Further suburban development within the views and vistas of Wollumbin AP will impact on the aesthetics, connection to Country and the cultural landscape which are integral to the cultural values of Wollumbin AP. Removal of infrastructure will occur once the summit is closed in the future.’
So simply living next door now counts as some injury to these cultural conquistadors...?
If they follow through with that threat, it means going onto private land and attempting to rip up infrastructure...
They do that, then surely, as pointed out elsewhere, that is the end of the rule of law...
To be fair, this whole "plan" seems like it would break anti-discrimination laws, among other things. So I'm really... Concerned where this is headed.
I really don't understand how they can do this. But here we are...
I know they've seized land under a form of "eminent domain", before, to convert it to national parks. For that seized land to now be "handed over" to the Aboriginals for their own private management..?
I'm not sure how that's particularly different to South Africa's farm seizures, tbh. It's just taken (much) longer...
Clearly the last two years were a watershed in Australian politics. Because this is just... I'm gonna go with "outrageous", but really that is the least of it.
I agree with you, by the way. You should see some of the comments that "Aboriginal activists" and self-flagellating white people, are posting on Facebook, about this, in response to ANYONE who dares object to it...
It's hate speech. Racist, vile hate speech. But they're "on the right side of history", so it's ok.
Some of it is straight out of 1984, some of it is straight out of literal struggle sessions in Maoist China. I'm not sure how we reached this point, but it's very scary that it has come to this.
And sure, we can say: "This is online. People wouldn't behave like this in real life."
Last year, they smashed up the car of backpackers who dared to climb "their" mountain, even before the official closure. There's been death threats. There's been assaults. And now this.
Tell me again who the "good guys" are..?
We're genuinely not far off the NSW state government endorsing these Abbo goons to go and smash up whitey for wrongthink. That's where this is headed.
Luckily these people must be the minority (3% of the population...), no matter how many self-hating whites play along. But still, shit gon' get messy...
The majority has been objecting to progressivism forever. Organized minorities will always the dominate the majority. Opinions of the masses are only relevant in so far as they give hope that this trajectory towards the zombie apocalypse could easily be averted after an absolute regime change.
I’ve always meant to look up the relationship between aboriginal people and the original British colonists in Australia. Any recommendations? Non biased books? So they have activists who clamor endlessly about oppression like we do here? One of the funny things here are black people in their 20s or teens who grew up in nice suburbs but to hear them talk they have suffered more than any slave ever did. Same with some women and whatever other “marginalized” group.
Hope things get better. Ive always wanted to visit down there.
Keith Windschuttle is generally the sole "dissenting" (non-woke) academic voice on that particular topic.
But I would also recommend "The Secret River" (fiction) and "Arthur Phillip: Governor, Soldier, Spy" (non-fiction) for good early historical context...
Also, the classic, "For the Term of His Natural Life", which, while mainly focussed on the convict story, naturally touches upon some of this, too...
Robert Hughes' "Fatal Shore" is also probably a key book to start with. And maybe "The Cotton Papers" (about Tasmania), if you can find it.
Finally, Quadrant (https://quadrant.org.au/) and the Australian Spectator (https://spectator.com.au/) have both long-form essays and lists of "recommended readings", so that should be a good start.
For a centrist take, Griffith Review (https://www.griffithreview.com/) is ok. Sometimes a bit too "left wing", for me, but they do the job.
Left wing sources are ubiquitous, if you wanted those. The Conversation is at least academic (if very biased), and The Monthly... Well, at least it pretends to have academic rigour, if nothing else.
Aus Geographic is relatively not bad. It's "drier" than Nat Geo, so there's that. Occasionally they'll touch on these issues. Older editions are, naturally, going to be better. I assume they're available online.
Hope that gets you started!
If you ever do get down here - if you stay away from the capital cities (and especially inner city/wealthy areas), generally it gets much less woke, and more tolerable.
There's plenty to see here, still. It's just that, as you can see here, our "social betters" are utterly determined to take away anything they can, at every given opportunity!
We've only seen this sort of thing, with this sort of language, in national parks, since they did the same thing with Ayers Rock, in the last five years or so.
It's been getting more and more extreme. Much like Canada and parts of the US. But yeah, this is an outlier, even by those standards, unfortunately...
A lot of these "aboriginals", at least the ones that have an IQ above 80, are typically White Australians with 1/8 or less Abo ancestry. All the scholarships explicitly for Abos get taken up by Whites. I'm not real up to date but I bet a lot of these activists are at least 1/2 White or more.
I’ve decided to make arrangements to go and climb their fucking mountain, ASAP (noting that these arrangements, as described, are not yet in place), and if they want to attempt to assault me, smash up my car, or hell, have me actually charged with something - fucking let them try.
I’m not going to let bullies take that opportunity away from me, and I’m not scared.
The only way things like this can happen is by ordinary people standing by and just “accepting” it.
Well, I’m not going to do that. Not for this.
It won’t change much of anything (unless they DO try to arrest me - hopefully not), but fuck it - the track is there, and it belongs to ALL Australians.
Essentially, our weather bureau spent $750,000 on corrupt marketing contracts, and PR, to attempt a weirdly authoritarian rebrand, and force members of the public to call it "The Bureau", instead of the widely-recognised BOM...
But it's so much worse than that. To the point of complete fucking insanity. The Saturday Paper article is particularly detailed about it. But to say that some really bad shit was clearly happening in this department of the public service is an understatement and a half...
That started under a "conservative" government, too... The fuck is going on??
Not to nitpick, but I've been thinking lately that the term "culture war" makes pointing out the neo-Marxist subversion of all our institutions--like the tranny lobby's assault on sex and the feminization of our military--and anti-white racism seem trivial. Many consider "culture" to be merely art or fashion, not the complex of institutions, manners, and morals that give life meaning and purpose.
The so-called "culture war" is a war for just that--the entirety of Western culture and all the classically Liberal characteristics that go with it like free speech, free exercise of religion, basically the distillation of Enlightenment principles reflected in the American Bill of Rights.
Calling this blatantly racist exclusion a part of the "culture war" tends to trivialize the matter.
Again, no complaint about the information in the posting, just some mulling about language . . . an important part of the struggle between the agents of liberty and totalitarianism.
Hmm, true the layman understanding of culture is quite shallow, but other terms does not seem to stick atm as easy as culture war, and has been tarnished quite badly by the institutions which means that in order to bypass the old reflexive dismissal culture war with it simple understanding has for the layman has a lot of expanding that can be done, if they first only see it as fashion, we can expand it to museum and history and from there you can expand it to difference of policy and customs without getting the reflexive dismissal that other more loaded terms will give. Of course over time this term will be abused if the institution does not change owners and new term will arise to take its place, such is the cultural arms race we are in.
Australians worship Abos. The Commonwealth whites are so much worse than American whites. It's not even close. Those dumb crackers didn't even do slavery, and they then fall all over themselves worshiping blacks like a coal burning danger hair on twitter giving out STDs as reparations.
Yeah, some of these "activists" are now sending me death threats on Facebook for calling them out on their racist insults, lol...
They're all half castes, and yet, they choose this vile, openly racist ideology. What a fucking time to be Australian...
Ah, so Western culture sucks but they are perfectly happy to use computers and the internet to send you threats? If these clowns love Aboriginal "culture" so much, they should go live like them.
Who could forget this absolute classic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tOkb1y7hEs
I almost choked to death!
True. This is extreme even by those standards, though...
$550,000 fine for using existing walking tracks? That's enough to bankrupt most people.
The removal of any and all existing lookouts, even on surrounding private land? The copyrighting of the image of the mountain, and forcing private businesses to be unable to use that image (one woke brewery has already changed its logo, and it is NAMED after the mountain. And that's before this has even come into place)..?
It's so extraordinarily extreme that I can't help but think this is part of some broader "divide and conquer" strategy...
They weren't even this extreme when they closed Ayers Rock. Something very weird is going on, here...
The left hates humanity, and many whites hate themselves. THOSE whites especially, therefore, are natural anti-humanists. Your country is run by those. It is indicative of "divide and conquer", but subjugation - it seems - is only the means... Extermination seems to be the end-goal: literal anti-humanism.
Public hangings of these such-creed-holding evil rulers, and a return to God and pro-humanity by the people at large, are the fixes.
What's the penalty for desecrating something white people built?
I think I saw that in a Facebook comment about this earlier...
It's $4000-$4500. That's all. If they even enforce it. Which they usually don't, if the perp is an Abo/usually a kid of one of the regime members themselves...
If they didn't have hypocrisy, they would have nothing. That's where we're at, unfortunately...
Article text, because this is just so extreme that it deserves to be seen:
I've never seen anything quite like this before. Madness...
So simply living next door now counts as some injury to these cultural conquistadors...?
I also don't understand this.
If they follow through with that threat, it means going onto private land and attempting to rip up infrastructure...
They do that, then surely, as pointed out elsewhere, that is the end of the rule of law...
To be fair, this whole "plan" seems like it would break anti-discrimination laws, among other things. So I'm really... Concerned where this is headed.
I really don't understand how they can do this. But here we are...
I know they've seized land under a form of "eminent domain", before, to convert it to national parks. For that seized land to now be "handed over" to the Aboriginals for their own private management..?
I'm not sure how that's particularly different to South Africa's farm seizures, tbh. It's just taken (much) longer...
Clearly the last two years were a watershed in Australian politics. Because this is just... I'm gonna go with "outrageous", but really that is the least of it.
Australia is a lost cause man. It has been for a long time.
Leave before you get raped/murdered by the local dindu population, or shoved on a train car by white people.
Rule of law is a "trace of Western Civilization". People in California are already finding out what happens when you erode that
... I think they're building a bunker for the global elites there.
I would love to let these people be free of western infrastructure like they want. I don’t know Australian politics or policy but this seems crazy
I agree with you, by the way. You should see some of the comments that "Aboriginal activists" and self-flagellating white people, are posting on Facebook, about this, in response to ANYONE who dares object to it...
It's hate speech. Racist, vile hate speech. But they're "on the right side of history", so it's ok.
Some of it is straight out of 1984, some of it is straight out of literal struggle sessions in Maoist China. I'm not sure how we reached this point, but it's very scary that it has come to this.
And sure, we can say: "This is online. People wouldn't behave like this in real life."
Last year, they smashed up the car of backpackers who dared to climb "their" mountain, even before the official closure. There's been death threats. There's been assaults. And now this.
Tell me again who the "good guys" are..?
We're genuinely not far off the NSW state government endorsing these Abbo goons to go and smash up whitey for wrongthink. That's where this is headed.
Luckily these people must be the minority (3% of the population...), no matter how many self-hating whites play along. But still, shit gon' get messy...
The majority has been objecting to progressivism forever. Organized minorities will always the dominate the majority. Opinions of the masses are only relevant in so far as they give hope that this trajectory towards the zombie apocalypse could easily be averted after an absolute regime change.
I’ve always meant to look up the relationship between aboriginal people and the original British colonists in Australia. Any recommendations? Non biased books? So they have activists who clamor endlessly about oppression like we do here? One of the funny things here are black people in their 20s or teens who grew up in nice suburbs but to hear them talk they have suffered more than any slave ever did. Same with some women and whatever other “marginalized” group.
Hope things get better. Ive always wanted to visit down there.
Keith Windschuttle is generally the sole "dissenting" (non-woke) academic voice on that particular topic.
But I would also recommend "The Secret River" (fiction) and "Arthur Phillip: Governor, Soldier, Spy" (non-fiction) for good early historical context...
Also, the classic, "For the Term of His Natural Life", which, while mainly focussed on the convict story, naturally touches upon some of this, too...
Robert Hughes' "Fatal Shore" is also probably a key book to start with. And maybe "The Cotton Papers" (about Tasmania), if you can find it.
Finally, Quadrant (https://quadrant.org.au/) and the Australian Spectator (https://spectator.com.au/) have both long-form essays and lists of "recommended readings", so that should be a good start.
For a centrist take, Griffith Review (https://www.griffithreview.com/) is ok. Sometimes a bit too "left wing", for me, but they do the job.
Left wing sources are ubiquitous, if you wanted those. The Conversation is at least academic (if very biased), and The Monthly... Well, at least it pretends to have academic rigour, if nothing else.
Aus Geographic is relatively not bad. It's "drier" than Nat Geo, so there's that. Occasionally they'll touch on these issues. Older editions are, naturally, going to be better. I assume they're available online.
Hope that gets you started!
If you ever do get down here - if you stay away from the capital cities (and especially inner city/wealthy areas), generally it gets much less woke, and more tolerable.
There's plenty to see here, still. It's just that, as you can see here, our "social betters" are utterly determined to take away anything they can, at every given opportunity!
Cool! Thanks!!!
Oh it's definitely crazy all right.
We've only seen this sort of thing, with this sort of language, in national parks, since they did the same thing with Ayers Rock, in the last five years or so.
It's been getting more and more extreme. Much like Canada and parts of the US. But yeah, this is an outlier, even by those standards, unfortunately...
A lot of these "aboriginals", at least the ones that have an IQ above 80, are typically White Australians with 1/8 or less Abo ancestry. All the scholarships explicitly for Abos get taken up by Whites. I'm not real up to date but I bet a lot of these activists are at least 1/2 White or more.
I’ve decided to make arrangements to go and climb their fucking mountain, ASAP (noting that these arrangements, as described, are not yet in place), and if they want to attempt to assault me, smash up my car, or hell, have me actually charged with something - fucking let them try.
I’m not going to let bullies take that opportunity away from me, and I’m not scared.
The only way things like this can happen is by ordinary people standing by and just “accepting” it.
Well, I’m not going to do that. Not for this.
It won’t change much of anything (unless they DO try to arrest me - hopefully not), but fuck it - the track is there, and it belongs to ALL Australians.
They can’t take that from me.
Oh, this shit gets even better (this one is on a national level, though):
https://spectator.com.au/2022/10/bom-shell/
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/10/22/exclusive-toxic-culture-has-plunged-the-bureau-meteorology-chaos#mtr
Essentially, our weather bureau spent $750,000 on corrupt marketing contracts, and PR, to attempt a weirdly authoritarian rebrand, and force members of the public to call it "The Bureau", instead of the widely-recognised BOM...
But it's so much worse than that. To the point of complete fucking insanity. The Saturday Paper article is particularly detailed about it. But to say that some really bad shit was clearly happening in this department of the public service is an understatement and a half...
That started under a "conservative" government, too... The fuck is going on??
Not to nitpick, but I've been thinking lately that the term "culture war" makes pointing out the neo-Marxist subversion of all our institutions--like the tranny lobby's assault on sex and the feminization of our military--and anti-white racism seem trivial. Many consider "culture" to be merely art or fashion, not the complex of institutions, manners, and morals that give life meaning and purpose.
The so-called "culture war" is a war for just that--the entirety of Western culture and all the classically Liberal characteristics that go with it like free speech, free exercise of religion, basically the distillation of Enlightenment principles reflected in the American Bill of Rights.
Calling this blatantly racist exclusion a part of the "culture war" tends to trivialize the matter.
Again, no complaint about the information in the posting, just some mulling about language . . . an important part of the struggle between the agents of liberty and totalitarianism.
Hmm, true the layman understanding of culture is quite shallow, but other terms does not seem to stick atm as easy as culture war, and has been tarnished quite badly by the institutions which means that in order to bypass the old reflexive dismissal culture war with it simple understanding has for the layman has a lot of expanding that can be done, if they first only see it as fashion, we can expand it to museum and history and from there you can expand it to difference of policy and customs without getting the reflexive dismissal that other more loaded terms will give. Of course over time this term will be abused if the institution does not change owners and new term will arise to take its place, such is the cultural arms race we are in.
This insanity is not gonna end until they are gonna hang like christmas decoration
Wow I'd better get to hiking whatever there is left that we're allowed to before they close all the mountains in nsw