Stonetoss on AI-generated art
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The best modern "art" I've ever come across is early videogame soundtracks. Uematsu is unironically the best composer of our time.
Visual art? Barely exists as a medium anymore. It's a vehicle for money laundering and fraud, wrapped up with a pretty little bow of pretentious fart sniffing. The closest thing you can get to a real artist in the modern world is Ansel Adams and he's been dead for half a century. Miss me with that schizophrenic, soup can bullshit.
"Modern Art" in the 20th century become a way for the elites to establish their superiority over the masses by embracing that which is incomprehensible to the common man.
You don't understand the genius of the banana taped to the wall? Ha ha, you plebe, go watch a tractor pull!
You don't appreciate this atonal vomitous cacophony? Ha ha, how common you are, peasant!
It's all Emperor's New Clothes/Tax Dodge.
I can't remember where I saw it, but someone was lambasting the death of progression in the classical music genre, AKA symphonies and stuff like that, before someone else chimed up and said that all major progression or further exploration of that genre in the modern era has been in video game soundtracks. Even modern soundtracks are doing more for symphonic music than anyone else. I think Nier Automata is a decent example of that.
Yep, classical music has been completely absorbed by the Japanese, who carry that particular torch with video games. Dancing Mad from FF6 for example, is Mozart quality and they made it with chiptunes.
I haven't played Nier but I have heard good things.
I love piano arrangements of those soundtracks which really bring out how 'classical' they are. This Chrono Trigger one is excellent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_MJnL_e9I&t=1142s
Nier music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPZekUCTMx8&list=PLrt6E1gMfuuBYMwITXmssW7AmcthummzS&ab_channel=DeaconofZoknoraam
An analyses on Nier automata music : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfskxqaY2d8&ab_channel=Polygon
That analysis missed some really important points.
What I loved about the nier soundtrack was its adaptive/dynamic system. Each of these already amazing songs had 4 (5 really) versions that vary in intensity, as more and more enemies join the fray the orchestra picks up, the chorus swells, and then seamlessly fades back down to gentle when things are less tense. It's not just that the songs are great, its that they swell and change in time with your actions as you play, 11/10
It's got a plethora of 'epic' scores, truely amazing battle tunes I could listen to endlessly https://soundcloud.com/schwarzwald/nier-automata-a-beautiful-song , some of the most amazing orchestral 'epic' songs around. Carmina burana and 1812 overture friendship is over, nier is my best friend now. The nier expansion to final fantasy also has some bangers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GidkSDUMI8E
It's one of the only games I own the soundtracks for, and one of the only soundtracks without a weak one. Oh sure I don't listen to the kid villiage song often, but in game it absolutely fits.
I think what's really interesting is that he's been playing with properly good sound for a while, going back to the drakengard soundtrack. I've never heard a more disjointed, tense, and hard to listen to battle theme. If reality is breaking, the drakengard ost is how it will sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLSmHwihXrg . It's a cacophonous halting skipping mess and it works perfectly. Experimental and doing something new without sticking a banana on the wall. Just enough oddity to be memorable, but good. The game as a whole was too expierimental and didnt hit the mark, but the ost hit that sweet spot I think.
All sampling and using classical music.
Japan really is carrying on the tradition, and they are doing so admirably.
You've got me sat here nerding out and ranting about all its good qualities and the lore. It's that good, cmon.
I've never played the game, but years ago I saw/heard the intro for Resident Evil Outbreak and found it absolutely brilliant. I attribute 90% of that to the gorgeous music.
If you've never heard the Metal Gear Solid 4 Main Theme, it's an incredible piece of art.
the Chinese or at least yu peng chen/hoyomix have been doing the same
as much as I hate the idea of the gatcha monetization system and the entire east taiwan thing I have to say genshin impact has some top tier music
Movie soundtracks too. Howard Shore's work for Lord of the Rings is excellent.
Nier Gestalt/Replicant had a woman invent an entire language that she never revealed to anyone and use it to sing the entire soundtrack.
Drakengard 1 took short 6-15 second clips of classical music, layered and warped them, and created a soundtrack that was meant to make you intentionally feel like you were going insane the entire time (it worked).
Taro has been using music in progressive and interesting ways long before Automata.
Yeah. I love early game composers. Terran themes for starcraft. Tiberian sun ost for command and conquer. Golden eye 64 track too.
Uematsu is an absolute genius. I'm also personally quite partial to Yoko Shimomura's stuff. Her music is way better than FF15 deserved, and KH music blows me away time and time again.
And then about 3 years ago, I found out she was also responsible for a lot of Street Fighter 2 music.
Apparently she also composed a single song for Mega Man 5--the theme to the Wily levels.
But it was never confirmed if it was her.
It IS known she worked for Capcom at the time, however.
She did the Adventures in the Magic Kingdom OST, meaning she covered the Mickey Mouse Club theme decades before she touched Kingdom Hearts.
I adore her work on the SMRPG and Mario and Luigi RPG OSTs.
It's a tough call between Uematsu, Koji Kondo, Yuzo Koshiro, David Wise and Motoi Sakuraba, in my eyes.
But I 100% agree otherwise.
I like Yuki Kajiura's music