The apartment bombings claim is crazy enough (like I showed you from the recent biography, only for you to call the author a 'dumbass' for disagreeing with you)
You linked a tweet of pictures of a few pages of the book "Putin: His Life and Times" by 77 year old Brit Philip Short, which admits that Russians generally believed that the Ryazan incident was proof the bombings were a false flag, with further evidence found later in a similar incident in Volgodonsk.
Short's arguments - not evidence - are laughably bad: (1) one of the bombing killed some military families and the Russian govt would kill civilians, but not dependas. "In Stalin's time, perhaps." LOL shit argument. Putin didn't give a flying fuck about his actual soldiers let alone their families, and choosing that target made it seem to align more with the rebel motives, which is the whole point of a false flag. (2) Other false flags were "prevented" in time. Why would they block their own false flags? Duh. The obvious answer is that while they needed a bodycount, once that bodycount was established, it would have an even better effect to "catch" the "bombings" in time since it would have the same fear effect while also making the government look competent. (3) "the sheer, bumbling incompetence of the FSB operatives" means they couldn't have done it. LOL. Yeah that's why that team got fucking caught. The others did not. This is a toupee fallacy.
Short's book is as close to a hagiography of Putin as could be published in the west now. From the NYT book review: "As critics observed about those volumes, Short’s determination to present a fully realized portrait of Putin may strike some as excessively sympathetic... In fact, he does absolve Putin of several crimes. Short opens with an extended examination of the never-solved apartment bombings of 1999 that were blamed on Chechen terrorists but suspected of being a government conspiracy to cement Putin’s path to power. Short exonerates Putin."
The moment anyone tells you what you want to hear or believe for ideological purposes, you take it as gospel truth. The evidence doesn't matter. It's like arguing with a liberal. Short's arguments are trash and he clearly decided he was going to put positive spin on Putin for the book.
Germany probably agreed to them blowing it up, so domestic pressure would be relieved. "Hey, we want you to not starve and freeze to death, but our hands are tied!"
Germany already has stockpiles of energy for the winter. It bought them in August, hence why prices spiked then. The prices have come back down as supply chains have adapted and demand has softened in September. There is no reason to believe that the EU is subject to any winter gas extortion anymore.
Cut the crap, you wouldn't be fanatically backing a shithole like Ukraine if you weren't.
The evidence overwhelmingly supports that Putin ordered the apt bombings, and his FSB agents were caught by locals trying to plant a bomb in Ryazan.
Yes, as a training exercise. No evidence was ever provided that this was an actual bomb.
You linked a tweet of pictures of a few pages of the book "Putin: His Life and Times" by 77 year old Brit Philip Short
Oh wow, 77 years old.
That definitely refutes his book!
which admits that Russians generally believed that the Ryazan incident was proof the bombings were a false flag
Pssh... people in non-Western countries are extremely suspicious and believe basically everything is a conspiracy. That doesn't prove it.
Putin didn't give a flying fuck about his actual soldiers let alone their families
Obviously, like your Biden, he doesn't give a damn. The argument is that he wouldn't be able to get away with it. Just because the USG wouldn't give a damn about blowing up the WTC, it is highly unlikely (contrary to the opinions of some of the spergs here) that it would be able to get away with it.
Short's book is as close to a hagiography of Putin as could be published in the west now. From the NYT book review: "As critics observed about those volumes, Short’s determination to present a fully realized portrait of Putin may strike some as excessively sympathetic... In fact, he does absolve Putin of several crimes. Short opens with an extended examination of the never-solved apartment bombings of 1999 that were blamed on Chechen terrorists but suspected of being a government conspiracy to cement Putin’s path to power. Short exonerates Putin."
Ah, so now you find the NYT reliable. Go read what they write about the Republicans that you worship. Same for Wikipedia. The moment anyone tells you what you want to hear or believe for ideological purposes, you take it as gospel truth. The evidence doesn't matter.
Germany already has stockpiles of energy for the winter. It bought them in August, hence why prices spiked then. The prices have come back down as supply chains have adapted and demand has softened in September. There is no reason to believe that the EU is subject to any winter gas extortion anymore.
Those stockpiles are a joke and won't get Germany through the winter. You need a constant flow of natural gas.
Pangs of conscience over what you did with their pipeline if they end up starving and freezing?
The US isn't helping Ukraine because it is scared of Russia, it is helping Ukraine because Putin's war of aggression is morally wrong, as well as an unacceptable attempt to engage in empire-building, which is inconsistent with the desires of the guarantors of free trade.
Nobody credulous really believes the "training exercise" excuse, as it is obvious bullshit. You only "believe" it because you're a partisan.
Yes, Philip Short being 77 is a small strike against him, however that was not a significant part of my refutation of him, so I don't know why you singled. Oh wait, I DO know: you lack confidence on any of my substantive points.
I disagree, I think Biden cares about US soldiers far moreso than Putin cares about Russian soldiers, which is admittedly a low bar. People who shill for obviously evil people love the cope that they pretend that everyone in the world is equally evil, the "good guys" just hide it better. That's a childish world view.
Americans absolutely would not blow up the WTC, because they have morals and ethics and do not want to murder their fellow Americans. They aren't heartless killers like Putin, who routinely engages in murder of anyone who he simply dislikes, even if they are not a threat to the regime.
I knew you'd whine about my citing the NYT. NYT book reviews are one of the most famous and well known.
I don't worship Republicans. You worship Putin, a loser and failure who tricked you into thinking he gives a fuck about your political goals so that he could get you to be an internet janny shill for him. You're a useful idiot for his desire to rebuild the USSR, and she doesn't give the slightest shit about you or what you want culturally or politically. Republicans, on the other hand, are actually fighting the culture war and in the trenches and starting to get some victories. So yeah, my support of Republicans is moving the ball in the direction you claim to cherish. Your support of Putin is not. Hence why I suspect the possibility that you're some kind of agent. You claimed goals and what you write don't actually line up. Your devotion to and shilling for Putin cannot be explained away by the mere fact that Putin doesn't like gay pride parades. Like why the fuck do you need to shill for him on Ryazan? You wouldn't give the slightest shit if you only saw Putin as a useful tool against the wokes.
"The moment anyone tells you what you want to hear or believe for ideological purposes, you take it as gospel truth. The evidence doesn't matter." Outstanding job describing yourself, not me. "accuse your opponent of that of which you are guilty" is probably in your employee handbook.
"Those stockpiles are a joke and won't get Germany through the winter" Sure they can, because of course Germany still has months to obtain more energy before and during the winter from other sources. Russia didn't have a monopoly on gas. The stockpiles are there as a cushion. Nobody believes that all energy supplies are going to get cut off and Germany is going to have to solely ration out the stockpile.
"Pangs of conscience over what you did with their pipeline if they end up starving and freezing?" Accusing me of what your Daddy Putin did, "accuse your opponent of that of which you are guilty" twice in one comment. If you remain this predictable you might get replaced by an AI.
The US isn't helping Ukraine because it is scared of Russia, it is helping Ukraine because Putin's war of aggression is morally wrong
BAHAHAHA. No way you believe this. Your shithole of a country has done nothing but engage in aggression for the past few decades. You bombed Serbia and Libya to smithereens, and now you claim that your country opposes wars of aggression. What a joke. World-class hypocrites you are.
Nobody credulous really believes the "training exercise" excuse, as it is obvious bullshit. You only "believe" it because you're a partisan.
Yes, the credulous people believe in false flags. (This is why my English better than yours. I actually know what the word means.)
I think Biden cares about US soldiers far moreso than Putin cares about Russian soldiers, which is admittedly a low bar. People who shill for obviously evil people love the cope that they pretend that everyone in the world is equally evil, the "good guys" just hide it better. That's a childish world view.
It's childish to pretend that your politicians are better than the other guy's politicians, because MURICA AMIRITE?
Americans absolutely would not blow up the WTC, because they have morals and ethics and do not want to murder their fellow Americans. They aren't heartless killers like Putin, who routinely engages in murder of anyone who he simply dislikes, even if they are not a threat to the regime.
You would only murder... check notes... Russians, Serbian, Yemenis, Nicaraguans, Grenadites, Iraqis, Afghans, and basically every other nationality throughout the world. Oh, and also Anwar Al-Awlawki, an American citizen, and his 16-year-old son and then his 8-year-old daughter.
By the way, I totally believe that ordinary Americans wouldn't do it. We're talking about your government though, which proposed Operation Northwood, and killed that 14-year-old Sammy Weaver kid, not to mention Ashlii Babbitt.
I knew you'd whine about my citing the NYT. NYT book reviews are one of the most famous and well known.
Wow, famous and 'well-known'. Like Jussie Smollett. Do Americans judge everything by how famous it is?
I don't worship Republicans. You worship Putin
What's the proof that I "worship" Putin? You certainly defend Republicans more than I defend Putin.
You worship Putin, a loser and failure who tricked you into thinking he gives a fuck about your political goals
Putin doesn't lose, Putin doesn't fail. You'll do well to remember that, before you force him to turn all of America into Chicago. And you know full well that I don't think that Putin cares about my political goals. Yet he opposes the regime.
so that he could get you to be an internet janny shill for him.
I don't get it. First you accuse me of being biased against you, then you say that I wasn't biased against you, and now you say that I was a 'shill' for Putin as a moderator. Have you forgotten who instantaneously approved all your requested for approved submitter status, regardless of your opinions? Of course, it was just 90D chess to throw you off your brilliant scent, because I could tell that you were about to blow my FSB cover! But then again, I'm very "stupid" according to you, so how could I play such 90D chess?
Republicans, on the other hand, are actually fighting the culture war and in the trenches and starting to get some victories.
Right, you have to wait until kids are 8 before you groom them. Great victory. 10/10.
Like why the fuck do you need to shill for him on Ryazan?
Someone disagrees with dekachin on the highly improbable and dangerous plot to... blow up Russian citizens in order to justify a highly improbable and unlikely to succeed campaign against Chechnya, so he must be a Russian agent! Brilliantly done.
The moment anyone tells you what you want to hear or believe for ideological purposes, you take it as gospel truth. The evidence doesn't matter." Outstanding job describing yourself, not me. "accuse your opponent of that of which you are guilty" is probably in your employee handbook.
Well, you did it, because you quoted the New York Times as well as Wikipedia. If you think those sources are reliable, you should check what they write about your beloved Republicans.
Sure they can, because of course Germany still has months to obtain more energy before and during the winter from other sources. Russia didn't have a monopoly on gas. The stockpiles are there as a cushion. Nobody believes that all energy supplies are going to get cut off and Germany is going to have to solely ration out the stockpile.
It's not nearly enough. Not sure why you persist in such insanity.
Accusing me of what your Daddy Putin did, "accuse your opponent of that of which you are guilty" twice in one comment. If you remain this predictable you might get replaced by an AI.
I mean, you blew up their pipeline, you forced them to enact sanctions, so yeah. It was you. Your denials are about as credible as you calling me an FSB agent.
So I opposed both of those so idk why youre coming at me with those. In both cases the US was only going along with Euros and willingly acting as their enforcer and muscle so Democrats could ingratiate themselves to the filthy, degenerate, globohomo euros. Clinton bombed Serbia. Obama bombed Libya. I doubt that Trump would have been willing to join the Euros in either endeavor.
But those weren't "wars of aggression" anyway. Serbia was bombed to stop its invasion of Kosovo and to stop a fake genocide that was believed to have been happening. Libya was just a civil war where the Euros + US gave air support to the rebels.
Yes, the credulous people believe in false flags. (This is why my English better than yours. I actually know what the word means.)
My statement obviously meant "even gullible people would not believe that excuse because it is so obviously bullshit", and you stupidly misread it and assumed I am an idiot who meant to use fastidious or something. Your ego is suffering right now, and you're desperate to cling to anything that will help you feel smarter. It's sad.
You're getting tilted because (1) I've been landing too many hits on your lately, and (2) your Daddy Putin's war is going very poorly and there is a general malaise and frustration among Russian warmongers these days. Losing Izyum was bad, but the shills thought "ok we were caught sleeping, but we will shorten the lines and recover" BUT THEN UKRAINE KEPT ON GOING and now has successfully taken Lyman, with the Russians just getting bitch slapped around now for a month straight with no end in sight.
This must weigh heavily on you and your coworkers.
Putin doesn't lose, Putin doesn't fail. You'll do well to remember that, before you force him to turn all of America into Chicago.
lolololol I honestly hope you're getting a paycheck for this, bro.
I'm not scared of Russia. Nobody is.
The evidence overwhelmingly supports that Putin ordered the apt bombings, and his FSB agents were caught by locals trying to plant a bomb in Ryazan.
You linked a tweet of pictures of a few pages of the book "Putin: His Life and Times" by 77 year old Brit Philip Short, which admits that Russians generally believed that the Ryazan incident was proof the bombings were a false flag, with further evidence found later in a similar incident in Volgodonsk.
Short's arguments - not evidence - are laughably bad: (1) one of the bombing killed some military families and the Russian govt would kill civilians, but not dependas. "In Stalin's time, perhaps." LOL shit argument. Putin didn't give a flying fuck about his actual soldiers let alone their families, and choosing that target made it seem to align more with the rebel motives, which is the whole point of a false flag. (2) Other false flags were "prevented" in time. Why would they block their own false flags? Duh. The obvious answer is that while they needed a bodycount, once that bodycount was established, it would have an even better effect to "catch" the "bombings" in time since it would have the same fear effect while also making the government look competent. (3) "the sheer, bumbling incompetence of the FSB operatives" means they couldn't have done it. LOL. Yeah that's why that team got fucking caught. The others did not. This is a toupee fallacy.
Short's book is as close to a hagiography of Putin as could be published in the west now. From the NYT book review: "As critics observed about those volumes, Short’s determination to present a fully realized portrait of Putin may strike some as excessively sympathetic... In fact, he does absolve Putin of several crimes. Short opens with an extended examination of the never-solved apartment bombings of 1999 that were blamed on Chechen terrorists but suspected of being a government conspiracy to cement Putin’s path to power. Short exonerates Putin."
The moment anyone tells you what you want to hear or believe for ideological purposes, you take it as gospel truth. The evidence doesn't matter. It's like arguing with a liberal. Short's arguments are trash and he clearly decided he was going to put positive spin on Putin for the book.
Germany already has stockpiles of energy for the winter. It bought them in August, hence why prices spiked then. The prices have come back down as supply chains have adapted and demand has softened in September. There is no reason to believe that the EU is subject to any winter gas extortion anymore.
Cut the crap, you wouldn't be fanatically backing a shithole like Ukraine if you weren't.
Yes, as a training exercise. No evidence was ever provided that this was an actual bomb.
Oh wow, 77 years old.
That definitely refutes his book!
Pssh... people in non-Western countries are extremely suspicious and believe basically everything is a conspiracy. That doesn't prove it.
Obviously, like your Biden, he doesn't give a damn. The argument is that he wouldn't be able to get away with it. Just because the USG wouldn't give a damn about blowing up the WTC, it is highly unlikely (contrary to the opinions of some of the spergs here) that it would be able to get away with it.
Ah, so now you find the NYT reliable. Go read what they write about the Republicans that you worship. Same for Wikipedia. The moment anyone tells you what you want to hear or believe for ideological purposes, you take it as gospel truth. The evidence doesn't matter.
Those stockpiles are a joke and won't get Germany through the winter. You need a constant flow of natural gas.
Pangs of conscience over what you did with their pipeline if they end up starving and freezing?
No wait, anything is justified for empire.
The US isn't helping Ukraine because it is scared of Russia, it is helping Ukraine because Putin's war of aggression is morally wrong, as well as an unacceptable attempt to engage in empire-building, which is inconsistent with the desires of the guarantors of free trade.
Nobody credulous really believes the "training exercise" excuse, as it is obvious bullshit. You only "believe" it because you're a partisan.
Yes, Philip Short being 77 is a small strike against him, however that was not a significant part of my refutation of him, so I don't know why you singled. Oh wait, I DO know: you lack confidence on any of my substantive points.
I disagree, I think Biden cares about US soldiers far moreso than Putin cares about Russian soldiers, which is admittedly a low bar. People who shill for obviously evil people love the cope that they pretend that everyone in the world is equally evil, the "good guys" just hide it better. That's a childish world view.
Americans absolutely would not blow up the WTC, because they have morals and ethics and do not want to murder their fellow Americans. They aren't heartless killers like Putin, who routinely engages in murder of anyone who he simply dislikes, even if they are not a threat to the regime.
I knew you'd whine about my citing the NYT. NYT book reviews are one of the most famous and well known.
I don't worship Republicans. You worship Putin, a loser and failure who tricked you into thinking he gives a fuck about your political goals so that he could get you to be an internet janny shill for him. You're a useful idiot for his desire to rebuild the USSR, and she doesn't give the slightest shit about you or what you want culturally or politically. Republicans, on the other hand, are actually fighting the culture war and in the trenches and starting to get some victories. So yeah, my support of Republicans is moving the ball in the direction you claim to cherish. Your support of Putin is not. Hence why I suspect the possibility that you're some kind of agent. You claimed goals and what you write don't actually line up. Your devotion to and shilling for Putin cannot be explained away by the mere fact that Putin doesn't like gay pride parades. Like why the fuck do you need to shill for him on Ryazan? You wouldn't give the slightest shit if you only saw Putin as a useful tool against the wokes.
"The moment anyone tells you what you want to hear or believe for ideological purposes, you take it as gospel truth. The evidence doesn't matter." Outstanding job describing yourself, not me. "accuse your opponent of that of which you are guilty" is probably in your employee handbook.
"Those stockpiles are a joke and won't get Germany through the winter" Sure they can, because of course Germany still has months to obtain more energy before and during the winter from other sources. Russia didn't have a monopoly on gas. The stockpiles are there as a cushion. Nobody believes that all energy supplies are going to get cut off and Germany is going to have to solely ration out the stockpile.
"Pangs of conscience over what you did with their pipeline if they end up starving and freezing?" Accusing me of what your Daddy Putin did, "accuse your opponent of that of which you are guilty" twice in one comment. If you remain this predictable you might get replaced by an AI.
BAHAHAHA. No way you believe this. Your shithole of a country has done nothing but engage in aggression for the past few decades. You bombed Serbia and Libya to smithereens, and now you claim that your country opposes wars of aggression. What a joke. World-class hypocrites you are.
Yes, the credulous people believe in false flags. (This is why my English better than yours. I actually know what the word means.)
It's childish to pretend that your politicians are better than the other guy's politicians, because MURICA AMIRITE?
You would only murder... check notes... Russians, Serbian, Yemenis, Nicaraguans, Grenadites, Iraqis, Afghans, and basically every other nationality throughout the world. Oh, and also Anwar Al-Awlawki, an American citizen, and his 16-year-old son and then his 8-year-old daughter.
By the way, I totally believe that ordinary Americans wouldn't do it. We're talking about your government though, which proposed Operation Northwood, and killed that 14-year-old Sammy Weaver kid, not to mention Ashlii Babbitt.
Wow, famous and 'well-known'. Like Jussie Smollett. Do Americans judge everything by how famous it is?
What's the proof that I "worship" Putin? You certainly defend Republicans more than I defend Putin.
Putin doesn't lose, Putin doesn't fail. You'll do well to remember that, before you force him to turn all of America into Chicago. And you know full well that I don't think that Putin cares about my political goals. Yet he opposes the regime.
I don't get it. First you accuse me of being biased against you, then you say that I wasn't biased against you, and now you say that I was a 'shill' for Putin as a moderator. Have you forgotten who instantaneously approved all your requested for approved submitter status, regardless of your opinions? Of course, it was just 90D chess to throw you off your brilliant scent, because I could tell that you were about to blow my FSB cover! But then again, I'm very "stupid" according to you, so how could I play such 90D chess?
Right, you have to wait until kids are 8 before you groom them. Great victory. 10/10.
Someone disagrees with dekachin on the highly improbable and dangerous plot to... blow up Russian citizens in order to justify a highly improbable and unlikely to succeed campaign against Chechnya, so he must be a Russian agent! Brilliantly done.
Well, you did it, because you quoted the New York Times as well as Wikipedia. If you think those sources are reliable, you should check what they write about your beloved Republicans.
It's not nearly enough. Not sure why you persist in such insanity.
I mean, you blew up their pipeline, you forced them to enact sanctions, so yeah. It was you. Your denials are about as credible as you calling me an FSB agent.
So I opposed both of those so idk why youre coming at me with those. In both cases the US was only going along with Euros and willingly acting as their enforcer and muscle so Democrats could ingratiate themselves to the filthy, degenerate, globohomo euros. Clinton bombed Serbia. Obama bombed Libya. I doubt that Trump would have been willing to join the Euros in either endeavor.
But those weren't "wars of aggression" anyway. Serbia was bombed to stop its invasion of Kosovo and to stop a fake genocide that was believed to have been happening. Libya was just a civil war where the Euros + US gave air support to the rebels.
My statement obviously meant "even gullible people would not believe that excuse because it is so obviously bullshit", and you stupidly misread it and assumed I am an idiot who meant to use fastidious or something. Your ego is suffering right now, and you're desperate to cling to anything that will help you feel smarter. It's sad.
You're getting tilted because (1) I've been landing too many hits on your lately, and (2) your Daddy Putin's war is going very poorly and there is a general malaise and frustration among Russian warmongers these days. Losing Izyum was bad, but the shills thought "ok we were caught sleeping, but we will shorten the lines and recover" BUT THEN UKRAINE KEPT ON GOING and now has successfully taken Lyman, with the Russians just getting bitch slapped around now for a month straight with no end in sight.
This must weigh heavily on you and your coworkers.
lolololol I honestly hope you're getting a paycheck for this, bro.