Zelensky applies formally to NATO. Welcome to WW3.
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lol, the Soviets lost a battle a year after they withdrew. Brilliant.
With equal forces, yes. And yet they did a better job in Afghanistan than you did, and their regime lasted longer.
I actually agree with you here. I don't agree that it was 'won'. The Taliban didn't spring from one moment to the next as Athena from Zeus' head. It was lurking in the background waiting for you to leave.
Two years after the INF?
This is a pretty impressive analysis.
Yeah, so what? Is it not impressive that a deeply unpopular government survived for three whole years? When your supposedly elected government fell even before you left.
You say all the right things. But then you back the Globohomo empire to the hilt when it's vs. Russia. What exactly has Putin done to you that has you so mad at him?
That certainly is part of it.
INF & Afghanistan withdrawal were examples of Gorbachev trying to restore the USSR diplomatically. He also reversed the prior Soviet stance of hostility to China (which I'd think you'd agree with), and the Chinese were opposed to Afghanistan as well.
I'm very open to criticizing the weaknesses of "my own" side. I think the US has done a generally poor job cultivating local allies, and only manages to not fuck it up when the raw material itself is of extremely high quality or otherwise highly motivated apart from the US [Japan > Taiwan > S Korea > Hmong/Montagnards]. By contrast, the commies did an excellent job indoctrinating and mobilizing the locals into a force that could hold its own. It didn't work in Afghanistan because Islam > communism for muslim cultures. America would be far more successful in developing local allies if it did not attempt to impose its globohomo culture through the State Department, which is probably the pinnacle of the globohomo movement. I would gut the State Department and all-but-abolish it.
I don't tolerate empire-builders because they threaten the world economy and free trade we all rely on to make money and advance as a species. Putin was a threat to that prosperity and would have just been a bigger nuisance as time went on unless and until he got stopped, so stopping him sooner is better. Most of my net worth is invested in S&P 500 stock, and Putin's defeat will lead to strong long term gains as it will hasten the economic development of Russia and therefore the profit opportunities for S&P 500 companies in Russia/Ukraine and former SSR states. Putin's kleptocracy keeps Russia somewhat poor.
Putin's defeat in Ukraine will probably lead to the fall of Putin's regime and a more democratic Russia that no longer operates as a threat, which will, in turn, lead to a democratic and free country based on more conservative social values. Using the examples of Poland and Hungary, we can see that it is possible to undermine globohomo from within, and this is, in fact, the only possible way to destroy it. The sooner Russia joins Poland and Hungary and others [hopefully] in nations which have both prosperity and right wing cultural values, the better.
The defeat and crushing of Russian military power will lead to the irrelevance/end of NATO and mean the US will finally be able to greatly reduce its number of bases and personnel in Europe. I favor a "pivot to China" and I would prefer to see US troop/bases in Europe drawn down 80%-90%.
It sends a message/warning to the CCP and provides a training run and framework for the containment, isolation, and opposition by coalition to any CCP aggression.
I support global capitalism. I support global democracy with the caveat that some peoples are unfit to self-rule and are better left subject to dictators, the prime example being middle eastern muslims, who are best contained by secular dictators as opposed to getting a vote and voting for shit like the Taliban. There is no question in my mind that if Saudi Arabia was a democracy, the Saudi people would vote in some sort of giga-Wahhabi-Taliban shit and be a huge terror supporter. Enlightened despotism is sometimes superior to democracy, [Singapore, British Hong Kong, maybe Pinochet] but the vast majority of despots are not enlightened and invariably despotic regimes choose to optimize for self preservation and fuck over their countries. [North Korea, Myanmar, Venezuela, Cuba]
Reversing hostility with China is certanly smart. But the INF proves that the USSR was not a 'pariah' contrary to your claims.
Who are the Montagnards? Only one I know are the people in the French Revolution.,
That's probably going too far as well. I think you don't realize that pushing Globohomo is in the interests of the US, which is why I oppose US power. It's conquering countries without the need for a single soldier. Look what you did to Iran. Like Darren Beattie said, the rainbow flag and not the US flag represents the empire and the extent of US power.
How very naive. Putin did not make Russia corrupt. It has always been corrupt, and it probably always will be. Like you said, you have to work with the raw material you're handed, and Putin's are rather bad. With these bad raw materials, he has done quite well for himself and his country. Quite the opposite of Western 'governments', which only make their countries worse.
Yeah, I think in a few decades, Poland and Hungary will fall to Globohomo as well. Just because they are somewhat behind, does not mean that the same forces that corrupted other Western countries will not destroy them as well. Only when you keep a firm hand, like Putin does, can you keep it at bay.
That is foolish. Imagine if you do manage your fantasy of crushing Russian military power, like the allies did in 1918 with Germany. How are you going to stop Russian revanchism? Or do you think Russians will just accept your attempted destruction of their country?
LOL! There is no democracy.
The people in Vietnam's central highlands. US Special forces trained them to fight the communists, and they did so on their own very successfully until very late in the war when they were overwhelmed. This was in contrast to the rest of Vietnam where the people were fucking useless and needed Americans to do all the fighting for them.
It's not. It's only in the interests of the political Left, the Democrats. The Right/Republicans mostly despise that shit, though to some degree they're too cucked to stand up to it because they're afraid of getting "canceled".
Why do you put that entirely on the US? Faggot Europe did gay marriage BEFORE the US, quite a long time before. Faggot Europe was doing gay marriage 20 years ago when the US was still arresting faggots for sodomy.
You need to accept that the globohomo movement is PRIMARILY coming from NW Europe [UK, France, Germany, Nordics, Low countries, maybe some Italy/Spain] and commonwealth Canada/Australia/NZ, and only also from the US to a lesser degree because here in the US, we actually fight back against it. As late as 2008 CALIFORNIA banned gay marriage. Saying "oh it's all the US" is fucking simple minded. It's the LEFT in the US, which is a much smaller proportion of the US compared to other white countries, where the Left is much more dominant. The US could disappear off the earth tomorrow and yet globohomo would not stop or even slow down at all.
Putin used corruption as the basis of his government instead of trying to fight it. You resign yourself to saying Russia "probably always will be" corrupt, but that is nonsense. Corruption is just culture and culture can change. Every 3rd world country has to be able to fight corruption to develop further, and all of them have. Look at mexico as one example. Is mexico stil corrupt? Somewhat. But was it MUCH worse in the 1980s? Absolutely. If the mexicans can improve, it's nonsense to say the russians cannot.
But of course they cannot as long as Putin is around, because his government essentially exploits corruption as a means of maintaining power.
Maybe, but the Right has not lost yet, and we are trying to make a comeback in the US to roll back the fucking disgusting excesses of the Left's perversion of our culture these past 10+ years.
Your statements about Putin are naive. Iran kept a "firm hand" and look what a shitshow it is there now. A "firm hand" only works until the government and society become disconnected enough that a revolution is triggered. The reason Poland and Hungary are different is that the people SUPPORT conservatism there. THAT is how you win. You need to CONVINCE the people to be right wing, not impose it top down and wait until they revolt. Putin's methods would eventually fail. Poland and Hungary offer at least a hope for a sustainable future.
Russia's defeat in Ukraine will be so humiliating and total as to completely and fully discredit and demoralize everyone who supported it. They will fall from power and influence as failures, and be replaced in power by those who generally opposed the war (likely in secret) who want to take Russia in a path of reconciliation with the West, not confrontation.
Germany in 1918 did not lose the war on the battlefield. It lost because of a "stab in the back" where primarily jewish communists caused internal collapse with revolutions. While the "stab in the back" is denounced today as antisemitic nazi propaganda by the Left today, it was (1) largely true in its main elements, and (2) widely believed by the German people. Even the leftist wiki page admits "widely believed and promulgated in Germany after 1918", summarizing it as "It maintained that the Imperial German Army did not lose World War I on the battlefield, but was instead betrayed by certain citizens on the home front—especially Jews, revolutionary socialists who fomented strikes and labor unrest"
LOL and what about that is in any way untrue? That's exactly what happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic Look up the leaders of that statelet: communist jews.
The point of all this is, that the German people didn't believe they were inferior or defeated, but rather BETRAYED. This gave them a lust for revenge and an abiding belief that, if the war was fought again, they would be victorious.
Show me where any of this sentiment exists in Russia today. It doesn't. The few in Russia who yearn for the days of the Soviet Union are few and a dying breed. Putin was forced to invoke conscription because he couldn't get enough volunteers even with large financial incentives.
You won't accept it, but Putin's 2022 invasion of Ukraine is the dying last gasp of the Soviet Union, which has been hospitalized and on life support in the hearts of people like Putin for 30 years. After this invasion fails in its totality, all Russian dreams of empire will die with it, and be forever buried. The idea that they would try again is laughable. With what army? Putin is cleaning out the old Soviet stocks even as we speak. He's lost the majority of Russia's active armored fighting vehicles already, Russia cannot produce more on short notice, and so Putin is emptying out and trying to refurbish old T-62s to fill the gap, and even then, it's not enough. If this war drags on another year, the Russian military will be a light infantry force with little remaining artillery or armored vehicles. It will take a decade to build up enough equipment even to bully a small country like Georgia.