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posted 3 years ago by TheImpossible1 3 years ago by TheImpossible1 +32 / -0
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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The Russian empire was most bloody and genocidal in the entire Europe, rivaled only by the Ottoman. After took the left-bank Warsaw during the final battle of Kościuszko Insurrection they massacred the entire Praga district, 20,000 people (the bastard Suvorov). Among the 3 empires that abolished Poland, Moscow was most crudely brutal and economically exploitive, German was most efficient in many ways including Germanization (and wasn't ruthless until WWI and the scorched ground strategy shared with Russia), and Austrian was remembered quite sympathically.

Ukraine didn't bomb Donetsk, or anything else, with anything since like August of 2014, when they've totally stopped using combat aviation at all (until February 24 of this year).

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The Russian empire was most bloody and genocidal in the entire Europe

Yeah, it's the least developed empire except for the Turks. Still it did a great service to the peoples who were less developed, mostly in its Asian territories.

Among the 3 empires that abolished Poland, Moscow was most crudely brutal and economically exploitive

That's what happens when the empire is less developed than the territory it controls.

Ukraine didn't bomb Donetsk, or anything else, with anything since like August of 2014, when they've totally stopped using combat aviation at all (until February 24 of this year).

You're really going to argue that it's not bombardment because they used artillery rather than airplanes.

Why is it so hard for you to say: it's bad for Ukraine to shoot POWs in the knee. It's bad for them to shell Donetsk. It's bad for them to use cluster munitions. It's always these weak tea justifications. Do you see me trying to justify destroying Mariupol? No.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They weren't useling artillery "to shell Donetsk" too. I've been observing this conflict, so please stop trying to gaslight me.

I can show you what they were shelling if you want. (I already told you: trenches and isolated military outposts.)

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So you can see them being as you say "terrorized" by the shelling in their trenches in 2016: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DAo7go-4l0g

Comrade Patrick is indeed scared at very least, which is okay because his friends were being pelted with mortars moderately hard. I'd prefer not to be there myself, it's fine.

And here's a Russian assault being repelled at a checkpoint in Marinka, a city just outside Donetsk city: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_gzM0QKWEeU

Russia still didn't take it btw, to this day. That video could've been well filmed yesterday.

The trenches and the minefields made it while world of a difference from elsewhere where Ukraine didn't prepare because of the leadership's criminal pacifism. Especially in the absurdly narrow connection with Crimea that was manned by only border guards. They could've easily turned it into a modern Mannerheim Line.

Now, Comrade Patrick actually in Donetsk city for a comparison, where as you see the "terror" of "shelling" and "cluster bombing" is absolute as barely anyone dares to make a quick dash from the crumbling shelters in the ruins of this burned out city full of shallow graves: https://youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/search?query=Parade%20Donetsk%20

Or you were just lied to you, and you believed for some reason, it doesn't matter, but it's time to accept it like a man. Can you?

Btw Ukraine didn't allow the Independence Day festivities few days ago, because of an actual threat of bombardment. Which didn't materialize (in the capital), but this is how it looks like when such threat exists.

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