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Atlantic: The Supreme Court Has Ushered In a New Era of Religion at School (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by Ahaus667 3 years ago by Ahaus667 +29 / -0
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– TentElephant 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Do these people want the Bill of Rights incorporated to the states or not?

At the founding, every state had some sort of official religion, mostly Anglican or Congregationalist, through either explicitly writing it into the constitution or other explicit legal protections. If progressives want their religion to be exclusive within a state, then other states can similarly declare a different official religion. If progressives want no official state religions, then they have to treat all institutions equally, including those that reject the progressive religion.

Obviously, what they really want is to nullify the establishment clause by pretending they don't subscribe to any theology despite their many metaphysical declarations in order to force a federal religion, but that is a bullshit rhetorical trick.

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– AntonioOfVenice 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Calling wokism a religion is doing it too much honor. I realize not everyone here is as fond of religion, but it's an indisputable fact that both Europe and America had their apex under the tutelage of the Christian religion. Wokism cannot create something so great, it can only co-opt and wreck the thing. It's a cult, a perversion of the religious instinct.

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– TentElephant 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

That's all true, but in terms of autistic legalism they would certainly qualify as a religion. People are also incapable of escaping their confessional heritage, which results in it becoming a grotesque mockery of Christianity. Ideally, they would be ruthlessly repressed by all western nations formally restoring some flavor of proper Christianity while purging the progressive elements that have infiltrated them, such as Vatican II for the Catholics, the ELCA for Lutherans, whatever is going on with the Anglicans, etc.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

People are also incapable of escaping their confessional heritage, which results in it becoming a grotesque mockery of Christianity.

I am not a believer, but the theory in Christianity (as well as in Tolkien) is that evil is not a creating force, merely a perverting one.

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– Feelsgood2020 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Thank your for showing some autistic legalism representation. I see relegion as essentially pre-packaged philosophy with an instructional support system of buildings and titles.

I have worked to expand my exposure to differing philosophical teachings as I get older. Surprisingly, after a decade of following the hedonism of Aristippu, I am now properly appreciating the power of Christianity through the teachings of Thomas Aquinas. Certainly a more fulfilling approach to existence.

Physical pleasure is fleeting. Personal development of body and environment is eternal.

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– Kaarous 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

It is a religion. A religion of an inconstant, frequently shifting, capricious demon, but a religion nonetheless.

The reason they can't really create the is because the creature they serve cannot create either. Only warp and distort.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

A religion has to be established, meaning that it has withstood the test of time. Hence my use of the word cult. A religion need not be noble. Ripping out the hearts of POWs is a religion.

But even that religion was able to withstand the test of time, as awful as it was.

Can wokeness as much survive, let alone build a civilization?

BTW, I wish you'd disagreed about the apex of Western civilization. That would have been an entertaining dialogue.

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– deleted 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0
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– Erithal 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Ripping out the hearts of POWs is a religion.

Based and Aztec-pilled

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I agree. Wokism involves constantly changing your beliefs. That would be crappy for a religion. Cults do that.

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– Assassin47 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's a crappy religion.

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– BandageBandolier 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just because one religion did a good job, doesn't mean you have to do a good job to qualify as a religion, there's plenty of shitty religions out there.

You just need some blind faith and some rules et voilà.

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– altmehere 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Do these people want the Bill of Rights incorporated to the states or not?

Depends on who’s running the federal and state governments in question.

Just look at how Trump wanting to stop the Summer of Love crowd was shot down due to states’ rights, but the Capitol Police establishing offices in states in wake of the “insurrection” is just fine.

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