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posted 4 years ago by GoldenPlains 4 years ago by GoldenPlains +77 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

No, it isn't. You're just immoral and too cowardly to admit it.

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– freespeechsquid 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The people who think you get off on controlling women's bodies and want to force them to be incubator sex slaves are convinced it's a simple issue too.

Sorry, I think killing unborn babies and denying the right to bodily autonomy are both terrible things. Any issue where you have two bad options and have to choose the least bad is complicated.

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– krzyzowiec 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Why is the baby’s body less important than the mother’s?

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– freespeechsquid 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You can't really say one or the other is more important. Look dude, it's not like I've just decided pro choice is the right answer and I never question it. I do. But it is a complicated issue.

More than anything I hate how casual they treat it, how they use it like birth control and an excuse to be irresponsible, and how they talk about fetuses like they're some disgusting non person of no consequence. I'm more than ready for the sick culture around abortion to change.

I'm disgusted by some of the things they've been saying over the last day. And I know how horrible the abortion process is. It's sickening.

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– krzyzowiec 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I don't see it as complicated at all. It is baby murder, whether you say it is to save the life of the mother or whatever reason is given. Pro life is just saying "don't kill the baby". Pro choice is one variation or another on the mother's rights/body/whatever taking priority over the baby.

I know you don't see it that way and it seems complicated to you, but it is clear to me. The vast majority of abortions are women electing to have sex and then electing to kill the baby. In the case of a rape, the baby certainly wasn't the one abusing the mother, so it makes no sense to give it the death penalty, regardless of how hideous a crime the father committed.

I'm not saying this from a position of superiority. I used to think it was complicated like you do now. Eventually I forgave and accepted God back into my life, and he gave me the clarity I needed on this issue.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It really isn't complicated.

The only time it's acceptable to kill the child is when it's basically triage of "Would you like two dead people or one dead person?" Even then I have considerable reservations.

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