Waco is a bit better imo. At least for Ruby, dudes got some compensation (so theoretically you'd think govt would cut that shit out). Doesnt make up for the dead kid tho so both are good points.
Secession absolutely will work. The point isn't to actually get them to leave us alone, we all know that they won't ever stop until we stack up a mountain of their corpses.
The point is to get consolidate our own territory, and to force the left into a fight. What the left wants more than anything right now is to keep playing their crooked game. Secession puts an immediate halt to that.
That will only work with State secession as an internal political act.
You try federal secession and you will lose.
This is because:
a) Only genuinely far right idiots want to literally abandon America to the Communists, so you will have zero right-wing or moderate support
b) The Left will be able to genuinely justify using actual hard power on real insurrectionists, and will start putting bullets in you and your friends while the rest of the political right stands there and will do nothing about it.
c) In the imaginary scenario where you aren't carted off, you will be treated like a North Korea, and be bared from all sources of trade and funding. Anyone who does trade or fund you will be arrested or shot.
Federal Secession is a great idea to give the Left a series of vital wins that will divide the entirety of the political right, and push it Left; while also ceding ground to the Left that it represents patriotism and American values.
The political right love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but this is probably the best example of finding a way to fail that exists.
So that whole "well I'm fine because I moved out to the country where all my neighbors drive lifted jeeps and fly Trump flags" doesn't mean a damn thing in the end.
It's not an endgame strategy, but it's hardly useless. Consider it a tactical retreat. It's better to be surrounded by like-minded individuals, who are less likely to rat you out to the authorities for some minor infraction or wrongthink opinion. It is wise to fortify yourself with those who share your values.
I agree that it's naïve to say, "I'll just move to the country and will be safe from all of this Bolshevik crap." But, it's also naïve to say, "I can just stay in this area filled with my enemies, who are becoming increasingly radicalized, because it was previously safe to do so."
You should have figured out that the country is currently under occupation by the fact that a misdemeanor trespassing charge nets you 8 months in a federal prison... before your trial.
That being said, this is what the always does and will continue to do. There is nothing to do but to push directly through them. Definitely no negotiation, they won't accept negotiations on good faith.
Yes, "Neo-Liberalism" has gone rogue. More accurately: Fabian Socialism has gone Socialist. Again, it doesn't matter. You just refuse to compromise on your principles, be unapologetic, build your communities, and push directly past them.
I mean, what do you think the end of game of saying whenever one party loses the elections it's because of fraud and cheating is going to be?
It's clear that the left will in reality adopt whatever tactics the right uses that are successful. "fake news" got relabeled "misinformation". The right loved describing everyone as pedophiles so the left started doing the same thing. I could go on and on.
What do you think is going to happen when libs lose and the "election was stolen" narrative seems like the way to go for them to?
The kind of people who are the worst are less hardcore feminists than they are hardcore assholes. They'll destroy your business with feminism just as happily as they'd destroy it with mortar fire.
The left needs the lose, but I don't see how it's going to be a good outcome if we destroy voting for who's the most violent. You grab your gun off the wall and go outside, and get killed by a jeff bezos drone, I don't think it's quite the happy outcome you're thinking.
All you have to do is point out Ruby Ridge.
Waco is a bit better imo. At least for Ruby, dudes got some compensation (so theoretically you'd think govt would cut that shit out). Doesnt make up for the dead kid tho so both are good points.
Parallel economies will work because the Left can't sustain itself without parasitism.
Secession doesn't because the Left will not tolerate leaving you alone.
Secession absolutely will work. The point isn't to actually get them to leave us alone, we all know that they won't ever stop until we stack up a mountain of their corpses.
The point is to get consolidate our own territory, and to force the left into a fight. What the left wants more than anything right now is to keep playing their crooked game. Secession puts an immediate halt to that.
That will only work with State secession as an internal political act.
You try federal secession and you will lose.
This is because:
a) Only genuinely far right idiots want to literally abandon America to the Communists, so you will have zero right-wing or moderate support
b) The Left will be able to genuinely justify using actual hard power on real insurrectionists, and will start putting bullets in you and your friends while the rest of the political right stands there and will do nothing about it.
c) In the imaginary scenario where you aren't carted off, you will be treated like a North Korea, and be bared from all sources of trade and funding. Anyone who does trade or fund you will be arrested or shot.
Federal Secession is a great idea to give the Left a series of vital wins that will divide the entirety of the political right, and push it Left; while also ceding ground to the Left that it represents patriotism and American values.
The political right love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but this is probably the best example of finding a way to fail that exists.
It's not an endgame strategy, but it's hardly useless. Consider it a tactical retreat. It's better to be surrounded by like-minded individuals, who are less likely to rat you out to the authorities for some minor infraction or wrongthink opinion. It is wise to fortify yourself with those who share your values.
I agree that it's naïve to say, "I'll just move to the country and will be safe from all of this Bolshevik crap." But, it's also naïve to say, "I can just stay in this area filled with my enemies, who are becoming increasingly radicalized, because it was previously safe to do so."
You should have figured out that the country is currently under occupation by the fact that a misdemeanor trespassing charge nets you 8 months in a federal prison... before your trial.
That being said, this is what the always does and will continue to do. There is nothing to do but to push directly through them. Definitely no negotiation, they won't accept negotiations on good faith.
Yes, "Neo-Liberalism" has gone rogue. More accurately: Fabian Socialism has gone Socialist. Again, it doesn't matter. You just refuse to compromise on your principles, be unapologetic, build your communities, and push directly past them.
There was never a middle ground because they were never interested in debate.
See the documentary 2000 mules that was posted here…
Republicans have ZERO chance to gain power again unless they arrest and prosecute those criminals (all the way up to zuckerberg)
Whatever happens to the left, they did it to themselves. Fuck 'em.
Say the word and my guns and I will do the negotiating.
I mean, what do you think the end of game of saying whenever one party loses the elections it's because of fraud and cheating is going to be?
It's clear that the left will in reality adopt whatever tactics the right uses that are successful. "fake news" got relabeled "misinformation". The right loved describing everyone as pedophiles so the left started doing the same thing. I could go on and on.
What do you think is going to happen when libs lose and the "election was stolen" narrative seems like the way to go for them to?
The kind of people who are the worst are less hardcore feminists than they are hardcore assholes. They'll destroy your business with feminism just as happily as they'd destroy it with mortar fire.
The left needs the lose, but I don't see how it's going to be a good outcome if we destroy voting for who's the most violent. You grab your gun off the wall and go outside, and get killed by a jeff bezos drone, I don't think it's quite the happy outcome you're thinking.
Violence is the only answer.