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posted 4 years ago by ThatsAlright 4 years ago by ThatsAlright +67 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 38 points 4 years ago +38 / -0

They want a war apparently. Because they don't expect to actually get sucked into it. Make them have to fight for some politics and bullshit and see how many want it.

This whole Russia/Ukraine thing has always seemed off to me, despite what the world is made to believe Putin doesn't come off as a madman warmonger to me. Just also not a pussy. Ukraine itself is full of issues too. There's just a lot going on that we don't know or is harder to find out, because most of the news cycle is "Russia bad, Putin evil. Ukraine good, NATO perfect angels."

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– Killroyomega 30 points 4 years ago +30 / -0

Putin was old school KGB.

That man is neither mad nor incompetent.

He knows EXACTLY what he's doing and just how far he can push things.

This is happening precisely because western administrations are run by faggots, women, and other incompetent fools and puppets whom Putin knows do not even have the capacity to take hard action.

Trump would have launched a missile strike by now as a fucking greeting. Putin knew that which is why he didn't try anything. Same shit in Syria. Doesn't mean you need to go to war you just need to check your opponent's move with your own.

In a normal world this lack of action is treasonous.

Sanctions? On fucking what? Russia controls Western Europe's energy supply. Good luck faggots. You'll lose that one. Putin has enough land and people to properly develop any way he wishes, the only issue is getting the different regional tribes to act together and you can be damn sure he knows this and has been working on this nonstop.

I highly recommend making runs on the store even harder than the covid runs. There's a damn high chance China breaks off trade within a week.

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– Gizortnik 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I don't think it would have gotten this far with Trump.

Trump got in trouble because they accused him of trying to send anti-aircraft weapons to Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden... through Hillary Clinton's email servers... which were based in Ukraine for some reason... after finding out that several Ukranian government officials were convicted of meddling in the US election... HMMMMMM.

To be honest, he'd probably have moved some of that $85 Billion dollars of military equipment we gave to Pakistan over to Ukraine. Putin probably would have still quietly moved troops into the East, maybe even recognized the states, but he wouldn't have done anything like attack Kyiv.

Honestly, I'd bet that the Fabians want Zelinski dead. He was a populist. Their puppet actually lost the election, and he was getting along well with Trump. They are probably hoping the Russians either kill/depose him long enough to put someone they like in power; or will pressure him enough to make him run to them for aid.

Sanctions? On fucking what? Russia controls Western Europe's energy supply. Good luck faggots. You'll lose that one.

I think the sanctions are just there to give the Chinese an opening to fund Russia into prolonging a conflict with the West. That being said, the West isn't even entirely interested because of the energy supply from Russia. Maybe the Saudis will love it since Canada and the US are intentionally having their energy infrastructure shut down so no natural gas can get mined to relieve Europe. Again: I'd bet money on the Chinese pushing that.

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– cccpneveragain 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Yeah, I think they could have negotiated what they want. Which if I had to guess is at most acknowledge Crimea which is already theirs anyway, Ukraine stay out of NATO, maybe something with those Eastern regions Donestk and the like. Which I'm sure was met with the US and EU admins going on the whole, "we don't negotiate with violent madmen or whatever."

I'm not even presuming what Russia wants is a fair ask, but it's their prerogative to not want a military buildup on their own border just as much as it is for NATO to not want it on theirs. Putin knows damn well all they will get from this offensive is a few sanctions and bans that aren't really that big of a deal to them out of it. Europe needs all the stuff they import from Russia too much.

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