When the ordinary thought of a highly cultivated people begins to regard "having children" as a question of pro's and con's, the great turning-point has come. For Nature knows nothing of pro and con. Everywhere, wherever life is actual, reigns an inward organic logic, an "it," a drive, that is utterly independent of waking-being, with its causal linkages, and indeed not even observed by it. The abundant proliferation of primitive peoples is a natural phenomenon, which is not even thought about, still less judged as to its utility or the reverse. When reasons have to be put forward at all in a question of life, life itself has become questionable. At that point begins prudent limitation of the number of births. In the Classical world the practice was deplored by Polybius as the ruin of Greece, and yet even at his date it had long been established in great cities; in subsequent Roman times it became appallingly general. At first explained by the economic misery of the times, very soon it ceased to explain itself at all. And at that point, too, in Buddhist India as in Babylon, in Rome as in our own cities, a man's choice of the woman who is to be, not mother of his children as amongst peasants and primitives, but his own "companion for life," becomes a problem of mentalities.
I've went from believing that fetuses are parasites to loving being a parent, I can't believe how much brainwashing I had in me 6 years ago.
I have my wife to thank for not dumping my sorry ass back then.
That is what the cool people online were saying when reddit was young. I guess I was very impressionable and edgy. I thought that we should not have kids cause the world is overpopulated, that guns are evil, republicans are all evil racists, climate was going to kill us all in our lifetime, we need high taxes to help the poor, healthcare is a right, that anyone who did not share my views was an idiot, etc.
I would not be friends with myself pre 2014-2012, I was an edgy, smug idiot who thought himself smart.
On the upside, if I changed 180 then there is hope.
Yes, so? Weak men created laws and norms at women's request to make having a family and children very dangerous and damaging for the man. The cause is OBVIOUSLY empowering women and the weak men that did this. There is no turning back from this path. Women are the majority of voters. You will live by their primal instincts and you will do what they tell you to do or you will be disposed of.
It's calling you a deracinated bugman who revels in the ruinous materialistic hedonism of western civilization instead of assuming the role of Man. It's not "do it for the party"; it's do it because this is what Men do, and, if done properly, women will happily submit because they want to be dominated, as demonstrated by their willing submission to the corporate state.
Simply accepting the situation and merely trying to mitigate the risks is what women do when the barbarians pillage and rape their town. You've adopted the position of a woman.
That is a ridiculous idea.
First of all, you can't say anything that will be universally true about everyone like that.
Second, how can you even think you can decide that for everyone? What now? If someone says "nah, I gained this and this and I'm happy", will you just go to your typical answer of the man being brainwashed or blackmailed?
It's stupid and meaningless to come with big declarations like that of all the other people when you are just doing to say "NUH" when someone say it's not true.
There are many, many people who will say they benefited from marriage in a tangible way. From having someone in their life (physically and mentally) to love and walk with and raise kids with and support them. Even many unhappy people are still happier than they would have been with no one, and with no kids. Marriage is good unless you're set to be a monk, which is good too. Don't get down on marriage. This guy's "women like to be dominated stuff" is off however. Though it is true women are generally followers and are commanded to be submissive. I think most of the problems you see with marriage, why you think it isn't beneficial, or why others don't has to do with the marriages you're looking at being non-Christian (and this goes for most of the self-proclaimed "Christians" too). Marriage and life without God at the centre is empty in the end and isn't beneficial. Dunno who you think the true enemy is, but it's satanism (aka Marxism), that anti-god, there is no God type stuff and that's what's seeped into western countries and the institution of marriage and makes them seem this way.
-Oswald Spengler, The Decline of the West
I've went from believing that fetuses are parasites to loving being a parent, I can't believe how much brainwashing I had in me 6 years ago. I have my wife to thank for not dumping my sorry ass back then.
How the hell does a man begin to think that way?
That is what the cool people online were saying when reddit was young. I guess I was very impressionable and edgy. I thought that we should not have kids cause the world is overpopulated, that guns are evil, republicans are all evil racists, climate was going to kill us all in our lifetime, we need high taxes to help the poor, healthcare is a right, that anyone who did not share my views was an idiot, etc.
I would not be friends with myself pre 2014-2012, I was an edgy, smug idiot who thought himself smart.
On the upside, if I changed 180 then there is hope.
Brainwashing, it starts early in the west.
People should read more Spengler. Not that I think it would help most of them, change their minds and actions, but it's still good stuff.
Yes, so? Weak men created laws and norms at women's request to make having a family and children very dangerous and damaging for the man. The cause is OBVIOUSLY empowering women and the weak men that did this. There is no turning back from this path. Women are the majority of voters. You will live by their primal instincts and you will do what they tell you to do or you will be disposed of.
This is a lot of words to say very little.
It's calling you a deracinated bugman who revels in the ruinous materialistic hedonism of western civilization instead of assuming the role of Man. It's not "do it for the party"; it's do it because this is what Men do, and, if done properly, women will happily submit because they want to be dominated, as demonstrated by their willing submission to the corporate state.
Simply accepting the situation and merely trying to mitigate the risks is what women do when the barbarians pillage and rape their town. You've adopted the position of a woman.
And yet there isn't a single person in the West, maybe even on this Earth, who can say their marriage was beneficial to them in a tangible way.
I want to fight back against the situation, but as you know, my perception of who the enemy is, is very different to that of others.
I gotta ask man, do you realize when your argument falls apart and you subsequently make a retarded follow up?
Or is your head so far up your own ass you can't even recognize it or care?
You're not an idiot.
You know that you just said something retarded.
Why?
That is a ridiculous idea.
First of all, you can't say anything that will be universally true about everyone like that.
Second, how can you even think you can decide that for everyone? What now? If someone says "nah, I gained this and this and I'm happy", will you just go to your typical answer of the man being brainwashed or blackmailed?
It's stupid and meaningless to come with big declarations like that of all the other people when you are just doing to say "NUH" when someone say it's not true.
There are many, many people who will say they benefited from marriage in a tangible way. From having someone in their life (physically and mentally) to love and walk with and raise kids with and support them. Even many unhappy people are still happier than they would have been with no one, and with no kids. Marriage is good unless you're set to be a monk, which is good too. Don't get down on marriage. This guy's "women like to be dominated stuff" is off however. Though it is true women are generally followers and are commanded to be submissive. I think most of the problems you see with marriage, why you think it isn't beneficial, or why others don't has to do with the marriages you're looking at being non-Christian (and this goes for most of the self-proclaimed "Christians" too). Marriage and life without God at the centre is empty in the end and isn't beneficial. Dunno who you think the true enemy is, but it's satanism (aka Marxism), that anti-god, there is no God type stuff and that's what's seeped into western countries and the institution of marriage and makes them seem this way.
Many not only can, but will say that.
Your only way out is to insist that they are lying. The considerably better outcomes for married people will belie that claim.