That is a ridiculous idea.
First of all, you can't say anything that will be universally true about everyone like that.
Second, how can you even think you can decide that for everyone? What now? If someone says "nah, I gained this and this and I'm happy", will you just go to your typical answer of the man being brainwashed or blackmailed?
It's stupid and meaningless to come with big declarations like that of all the other people when you are just doing to say "NUH" when someone say it's not true.
Again, that is ridiculous in many ways. Maybe a bunch of people don't just care about money and meaningless baubles. You could be money-oriented. Many of us aren't.
You also come with the idea that a woman can only ever be a dependent. Like is she a dependent if she would be okay on her own too?
Also, in many traditional relationships the woman staying home means a lot of actual money saved, when for example childcare would be more expensive or if they try to be self-sufficient and she does a lot of that stuff around the home.
With psycho women, it's the same as with abusive men. 99.9% of them don't just become lunatics out of nowhere. If you are honest with yourself and you look and don't ignore the red flags, the risks are WAY lower.
You will just say NOOOOOPE (all women are psycho, no men are abusive, it's all just women making everything bad happen ever), but whatever.
But a tangible benefit is something with some kind of value to it, not mere emotional hamster-wheel logic.
Even if they work for themselves, you won't see a cent unless you're earning far more and it's the financial equivalent of a virtue signal. Aside from that, do you really think tradcucks have the wife work? Of course not, she sits at home doing fuck all.
But if they didn't marry, they wouldn't have the child to need childcare.
I've literally had people I've known for years turn all leftist BLM cult on me. Don't give me that "red flag" bullshit. A woman with intelligence can hide those easily.
You seem to be unable to understand someone having different values. It's obvious we look at for example money in different ways. You seem to be very motivated by money and things, but a bunch of us aren't. You can talk about those things as much as you want to people who are not motivated by it and they won't care.
You seem to value meaningful relationships very little, so what am I supposed to say? A bunch of people do want to have kids and they value that experience more than money.
First of all, stop with this "tradcucks" bitching, you just sound like a whiny cunt. How am I supposed to have an honest conversation and discourse when you act like a snarling feminazi? But yes, I do know traditional men in traditional relationships where the wife works. You would say it's not good enough because it's usually something like foreign language teacher, physiotherapist, chocolatier, etc, so basically not big money jobs.
Again, how to discuss this when you will just say say 'NO NO NO NO' and bring up things that are not important to the people you are trying to convince?
And a man with intelligence is not able to do anything? Dude. The way you talk about people makes you sound more and more like you think literally everyone is either evil or stupid, except yourself.
That is a ridiculous idea.
First of all, you can't say anything that will be universally true about everyone like that.
Second, how can you even think you can decide that for everyone? What now? If someone says "nah, I gained this and this and I'm happy", will you just go to your typical answer of the man being brainwashed or blackmailed?
It's stupid and meaningless to come with big declarations like that of all the other people when you are just doing to say "NUH" when someone say it's not true.
It depends what you consider tangible. I highly doubt anyone made a profit out of taking an extra dependent plus a ton of risk.
Again, that is ridiculous in many ways. Maybe a bunch of people don't just care about money and meaningless baubles. You could be money-oriented. Many of us aren't.
You also come with the idea that a woman can only ever be a dependent. Like is she a dependent if she would be okay on her own too?
Also, in many traditional relationships the woman staying home means a lot of actual money saved, when for example childcare would be more expensive or if they try to be self-sufficient and she does a lot of that stuff around the home.
With psycho women, it's the same as with abusive men. 99.9% of them don't just become lunatics out of nowhere. If you are honest with yourself and you look and don't ignore the red flags, the risks are WAY lower.
You will just say NOOOOOPE (all women are psycho, no men are abusive, it's all just women making everything bad happen ever), but whatever.
But a tangible benefit is something with some kind of value to it, not mere emotional hamster-wheel logic.
Even if they work for themselves, you won't see a cent unless you're earning far more and it's the financial equivalent of a virtue signal. Aside from that, do you really think tradcucks have the wife work? Of course not, she sits at home doing fuck all.
But if they didn't marry, they wouldn't have the child to need childcare.
I've literally had people I've known for years turn all leftist BLM cult on me. Don't give me that "red flag" bullshit. A woman with intelligence can hide those easily.
You seem to be unable to understand someone having different values. It's obvious we look at for example money in different ways. You seem to be very motivated by money and things, but a bunch of us aren't. You can talk about those things as much as you want to people who are not motivated by it and they won't care.
You seem to value meaningful relationships very little, so what am I supposed to say? A bunch of people do want to have kids and they value that experience more than money.
First of all, stop with this "tradcucks" bitching, you just sound like a whiny cunt. How am I supposed to have an honest conversation and discourse when you act like a snarling feminazi? But yes, I do know traditional men in traditional relationships where the wife works. You would say it's not good enough because it's usually something like foreign language teacher, physiotherapist, chocolatier, etc, so basically not big money jobs.
Again, how to discuss this when you will just say say 'NO NO NO NO' and bring up things that are not important to the people you are trying to convince?
And a man with intelligence is not able to do anything? Dude. The way you talk about people makes you sound more and more like you think literally everyone is either evil or stupid, except yourself.