This should not be radical or revolutionary, and is, in fact, a natural development for a company that started the way Image Comics did.
These fuckers. Then do what the founders of Image did and march your happy asses out the door and start your own company. Nine people have signed the demand which is more than left Marvel and DC and started Image (although I'd wager it represents SIGNFICANTLY less talent). That's not even to mention they left so they could have creative freedom which this "union" wants to restrict.
a natural development for a company that started the way Image Comics did.
Not even close, since these "union" people are NOT the creative talent, they are support staff, and should not have the power to cancel anyone else's project based on their "moral judgment". This is quite literally the ANTITHESIS of what Image was founded on!
You know for what could very easily be an over saturated market of illustrators, comic artist, and authors. These no talent hacks make a lot of demands. Seriously image fire them all and hire fresh talent. You will get them for cheaper and they will probably provide a better product.
As far as I can tell none of them are actual comic artists, just sales, marketing and production. Of course they want to police the work of others. At least they should be easy to replace.
Same here. The vast majority of comics I still have are from Image, mostly from the late 90s . When I thought about getting back into comics all this woke shit started and I lost interest again.
Not sure how big the market for Image comics still is around here (Europe). Although I might be able to finish some local series like El Mercenario (they went kinda nuts and made every panel an oil painting) or the Black Moon Chronicles. Let's hope they held up over time :D
You have to remember that the '90s was the decade of the comics glut. Every publisher under the sun was cranking out a bajillion titles with infinity variant covers to try and drive the speculation market. My dad used to say that they (both the industry and the speculators) were "investing in tulips", and he wasn't far from the truth. I'm not surprised that there's plenty of back issues in the bins.
Very true. But you can find some good stories. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and remember grabbing variants thinking they would be valuable. Same thing happened with sports cards (which I collect as well). They have some decent pre 70s stuff
Absolutely. Also makes me appreciate the stuff better. Like I’ll watch a b-movie from 80s or 90s and it’s brilliant compared to today. Or a random 80/ or 90s comic book is like Shakespeare by comparison
Commies sure love telling existing business owners what to do and sure fucking hate forming their own business so they can do whatever the hell they want.
All but one of them are non-artist. We are talking corporate drones who don't create anything, they manage. And they want to have censorship control over actual artists. Almost all of them have pronouns, masks &/or Communist Fists or the Pedo Flag on their profiles.
None of them offer anything to the world of worth. Fucking wastes of flesh. I wouldn't give them any control over what content Image puts out. I wouldn't let them pick up my dogs shit let alone have any input on art.
Ryan Brewer: Production Artist at Image for 6 years and other highlights is 6 years as a design intern (still doing it).
Leanna Caunter: Image Accounting Analyst
Marla Eizik: Talent coordinator, IOW's she works with the talent to ensure they are doing their job.
Drew Fitzgerald: Marketing assistant
Melissa Gifford: Content Manager (she works as an editor)
Chloe Ramos: Book Market & Library Sales Manager
Patricia Ramos: Traffic Manager
John Schlaffman: Specialty Sales Coordinator (note this turkey got laid off from image due to Covid, they were nice enough to hire his arse back and give him this job 9 months later)
Ryan long just did a video about this. What if laborers became woke snowflakes and demanded the right to censor the customers and choose what the customers can and cannot buy
The part about this that makes me shake my head (and I shouldn't be surprised by it) is that these nine aren't even the talent. They're the nobodies that work behind the scenes. Why the actual fuck should these twits that are getting high on their own supply of farts be given power over anything, much less the ability to pass moral judgement on any sort of publication?
This part really slew me:
Our workforce, and the comic book and publishing industry as a whole, is overtaxed and undervalued
You work in a fucking entertainment industry and you're not even the person in the spotlight. Your employers' job is to dance when the organ grinder cranks the wheels and perform for the masses. Your job is to make sure they have the proper dancing shoes and have been fed between shows. The only reason you think the comic industry is undervalued is because your asses aren't getting a cut of that MCU money and you're still working for peanuts (to carry on the circus metaphor). If you had any modicum of talent in the industry, you'd be out doing your own indy book and raking it in on IndieGoGo or Kickstarter. But you don't and you can't, so all you can do is form your own little milkshake clique and try to pass judgement over your betters because you think you're the morality police.
If Image comics wasn't woke to hell and back, they'd man up and fire these asshats before they do more damage than they already have.
These fuckers. Then do what the founders of Image did and march your happy asses out the door and start your own company. Nine people have signed the demand which is more than left Marvel and DC and started Image (although I'd wager it represents SIGNFICANTLY less talent). That's not even to mention they left so they could have creative freedom which this "union" wants to restrict.
Not even close, since these "union" people are NOT the creative talent, they are support staff, and should not have the power to cancel anyone else's project based on their "moral judgment". This is quite literally the ANTITHESIS of what Image was founded on!
I was thinking the exact thing
You know for what could very easily be an over saturated market of illustrators, comic artist, and authors. These no talent hacks make a lot of demands. Seriously image fire them all and hire fresh talent. You will get them for cheaper and they will probably provide a better product.
They're not even talent. They're just corporate drones: marketing, sales, etc.
"We want to restrict ourselves in our artistic abilities, but we want this guy to restrict us, for us."
Out of curiosity I checked the names of the people who singed this.
And, well ... Image comics is pretty much fucked if that's representative of who works there. Pronouns, BLM, cat "moms", alphabet people, etc.
https://twitter.com/meowla13
https://www.google.de/url?q=https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-schlaffman-5a69981a5
https://www.melissagifford.com/
https://twitter.com/erikaschnatz?lang=en
https://www.instagram.com/burritobruja/?hl=en
As far as I can tell none of them are actual comic artists, just sales, marketing and production. Of course they want to police the work of others. At least they should be easy to replace.
They aren't even talent? This just gets funnier. Some cat mom proofreader wants to tell creators making creator-owned comics what they can create.
I used to love reading image but haven’t bought a new one in forever
Same here. The vast majority of comics I still have are from Image, mostly from the late 90s . When I thought about getting back into comics all this woke shit started and I lost interest again.
I buy back issues now when it comes to the big. 2. 90s Image awesome! I recently learned about Alterna comics and bought some. They are good.
Hm, back issues might be an idea.
Not sure how big the market for Image comics still is around here (Europe). Although I might be able to finish some local series like El Mercenario (they went kinda nuts and made every panel an oil painting) or the Black Moon Chronicles. Let's hope they held up over time :D
Luckily my local comic book store has a massive back issues section. Funny because the old comics seem to sell better.
You have to remember that the '90s was the decade of the comics glut. Every publisher under the sun was cranking out a bajillion titles with infinity variant covers to try and drive the speculation market. My dad used to say that they (both the industry and the speculators) were "investing in tulips", and he wasn't far from the truth. I'm not surprised that there's plenty of back issues in the bins.
Very true. But you can find some good stories. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and remember grabbing variants thinking they would be valuable. Same thing happened with sports cards (which I collect as well). They have some decent pre 70s stuff
Absolutely. Also makes me appreciate the stuff better. Like I’ll watch a b-movie from 80s or 90s and it’s brilliant compared to today. Or a random 80/ or 90s comic book is like Shakespeare by comparison
They are the easiest to replace
They all look like hideous goblin creatures. Evil corrupts the body as much as it does the soul.
Commies sure love telling existing business owners what to do and sure fucking hate forming their own business so they can do whatever the hell they want.
I wonder why that is....
They also just love the idea that they should do so during a crisis.
While the whole comic industry is collapsing around them, these 9 nitwits have decided that their needs are what really matters.
All but one of them are non-artist. We are talking corporate drones who don't create anything, they manage. And they want to have censorship control over actual artists. Almost all of them have pronouns, masks &/or Communist Fists or the Pedo Flag on their profiles.
None of them offer anything to the world of worth. Fucking wastes of flesh. I wouldn't give them any control over what content Image puts out. I wouldn't let them pick up my dogs shit let alone have any input on art.
Ryan Brewer: Production Artist at Image for 6 years and other highlights is 6 years as a design intern (still doing it).
Leanna Caunter: Image Accounting Analyst
Marla Eizik: Talent coordinator, IOW's she works with the talent to ensure they are doing their job.
Drew Fitzgerald: Marketing assistant
Melissa Gifford: Content Manager (she works as an editor)
Chloe Ramos: Book Market & Library Sales Manager
Patricia Ramos: Traffic Manager
John Schlaffman: Specialty Sales Coordinator (note this turkey got laid off from image due to Covid, they were nice enough to hire his arse back and give him this job 9 months later)
Erika Schnatz: Senior Production Artist
Even the two production artists aren't actual comic artists as far as I can tell.
Yea, I had to look that one up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_artist
Basically it's someone who helps publish (someone else's) art via whatever medium they're using. The key word is production, not artist.
Brewer and Schnatz are the only two on that list who aren't fully interchangeable with any rando off the street, and even they're not far off.
Ryan long just did a video about this. What if laborers became woke snowflakes and demanded the right to censor the customers and choose what the customers can and cannot buy
https://youtu.be/K-Ep6cd6iYc
The part about this that makes me shake my head (and I shouldn't be surprised by it) is that these nine aren't even the talent. They're the nobodies that work behind the scenes. Why the actual fuck should these twits that are getting high on their own supply of farts be given power over anything, much less the ability to pass moral judgement on any sort of publication?
This part really slew me:
You work in a fucking entertainment industry and you're not even the person in the spotlight. Your employers' job is to dance when the organ grinder cranks the wheels and perform for the masses. Your job is to make sure they have the proper dancing shoes and have been fed between shows. The only reason you think the comic industry is undervalued is because your asses aren't getting a cut of that MCU money and you're still working for peanuts (to carry on the circus metaphor). If you had any modicum of talent in the industry, you'd be out doing your own indy book and raking it in on IndieGoGo or Kickstarter. But you don't and you can't, so all you can do is form your own little milkshake clique and try to pass judgement over your betters because you think you're the morality police.
If Image comics wasn't woke to hell and back, they'd man up and fire these asshats before they do more damage than they already have.
if they aren't talent, they don't matter.
hr drones are a dime a dozen.