From a Colorado City of ~100k sent to employees today. Just an FYI to get your takes on it and what options employees might have other than what they require.
''Given the above, effective November 9, 2021, I am requiring individuals to either be vaccinated, or be tested weekly."
"I also have to be clear that if an individual is not vaccinated and chooses to not test it will be considered as insubordination and handled accordingly."
That's a paddlin'! I mean, that's a firing. That's what the last sentence means.
It's like along with rational thought, all rules related to HIPPA have been thrown out the window as well.
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If we're testing for Covid I want everyone tested for flu, strep throat, the common cold and every other single infectious ailment under the sun. Make this shit completely untenable.
Good point. Most of these are fucking worse than C-19
Mandatory testing for AIDS and STD's.
or spreading
Hmmm, interesting take.. to me. And I agree, based on what I know. But the cult goes with what the leaders of the cult tell them. Unvax bad. Unvax bad. Unvax bad.
None of this should be required, whatsoever.
Lets make sure it's those ones where they shove q-tip into your brain. Or anal swabs.
Either take the anal swabs and q-tip-brains or you want to kill the children, bigot.
I received a similar email. I told them I would not be in compliance.
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop, but given that we're comically understaffed, I'm more worried about the future of the company than my own.
I think we'll lose more hours worked by people using sick leave for weekly testing and 10 day quarantines for false positives, than you would lose if they didn't implement this.
The Perennial Gale of Creative Destruction waits for no one.
Build your resume out now.
Employer pays the tests, right?
Never.
They also won't be covered by your health insurance, most likely.
That doesn't sound right.
What's above?
"First, I wanted to thank everyone for their continued dedication to our community during these unprecedented times. The last 18 months (wow I can’t believe it has been this long) have challenged and changed our community and each one of us in ways that we never imagined when the pandemic all began.
With the recent increase in COVID cases in HOOTERVILLE, I have had many staff members ask me about vaccination requirements. The topic of required vaccination has been something that we have been evaluating and debating for some time. This has been one of the most challenging decisions that I have been faced with over my career. I wanted to take this opportunity to walk you through my thought process on this issue.
First, any decision that I make has to first take our community into account and then the organization as a whole. I realize that there are many different perspectives and thoughts in our organization about whether or not to receive the COVID vaccine. The one thing that I have clearly heard is that many individuals would like to choose whether or not they receive the vaccine. I have also heard very clearly that many people are concerned about their health and safety and want to clearly know that they are protected when they come to work. The community has also engaged with us and on many occasions they have echoed a similar perspective. As I have previously stated, our most important job is to be there to serve the community every day and when they need us the most, and the community should not have to wonder if they have been exposed to COVID from their public servants. We also owe this to our co-workers so that they can feel comfortable in their service to our residents.
Second, over the last few months we have had a few instances where individuals have tested positive and due to required quarantine and illness, we were in jeopardy of not being able to provide services to our residents. These situations have also impacted other individuals in our organization because they had to shift what they were working on to ensure that we could make the necessary changes to minimize the operational impacts. When a situation creates a potential negative impact to our community and co-workers, I have to develop processes and procedures to ensure that we minimize our operation exposure and do everything we can to ensure that does not occur again."
Dear Sir,
Isn't that the point of vaccines?
Signed,
Not a Retard
Honestly, walkouts are the best way to go on this.
My employer is having problems because they aren't putting 2 & 2 together on inflation, and it's caused a lot of havok. Nothing to do with the vaccine.
Unfortunately HIPPA doesn't apply here, it just prevents medical information from being spread to a 3rd party.
You mean like the medical info employers are asking for whether you are vaccinated or not and then sharing that with managers and supervisors so you know which staff you have to get weekly testing reports from? Aren't those people 3rd party?
No, I think those have to be an entirely separate organization. They wouldn't be considered a 3rd party.
Elaborate please.
They seem to think that the rising price of literally everything somehow isn't going to magically effect wages, and they keep having people resign, and can't attract new people, because wages are too low. They'll learn the hard way eventually.
Ah, yes. Same issue with my labor force and trying to get HR to understand. In Colorado, 20 years reviewing apps, and I've never had so few. Housing costs are nuts here and you aren't going to get someone to move here at what we currently pay for labor trades.
The pool of candidates just keeps shrinking.
Yeah, something else was brought up too. The quality of the applicants is down too. Like we're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I know. My take given the last few batches of apps I went through is we are seeing the slackers, that want to sit it out, starting to have to apply as the covid bonuses run out.
I had a entry level engineering position open and after posting it twice told someone "Out of the 36 apps I finally got, only two didn't have huge red flags."
I've never seen anything like this in nearly two decades of hiring.
It's going to be a fucking disaster for these kids who are sitting out.
I took a year off from school and it's the worst move I've ever made in my career. Employers treat you no differently from a convicted felon if you haven't worked in a year. Seriously: I might as well have not gone to college because I took a year off.
I honestly feel that there's going to be a ton of entitled brats that are going to be shocked that no one will pay them what they are asking for, and another ton of good people that thought they could sit on their ass for a while and are now going to be lumped in with them.
Yeah, it's all bad.
Don't worry about posting on plebbit. Don't give them the content. Simply consuming their bandwidth - with adblock on - is not as bad. (but better not to do that either)