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How to admit failure without admitting failure: "Catching Covid after you are vaccinated improves immunity" (archive.is)
posted 4 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq 4 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq +80 / -0
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– Surfsup 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

So natural immunity is better?

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– Roadpower 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Always.

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– Surfsup 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It was rhetorical fyi lol

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– AntonioOfVenice 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

I thought the point of immunity was to not get the disease.

Joe Rogan said that same thing yesterday and they roundly attacked him for it.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

Yes, in the Before Times that was the meaning of "immunity". Now it apparently just means "you won't get as sick".

The whole article is them admitting that all the vaccine does is decrease your risk of serious illness if/when you do in fact catch it but that it does little/nothing to stop the spread.

The Kaolinska Institute’s Charlotte Thalin told The Conversation combining natural infection with protection from a vaccine may work better because natural infection exposes our immune system to several viral proteins while vaccines introduce a single antigen: the spike protein.

Many vaccinated people are likely to get infected because vaccines are less effective at preventing infection with the Delta variant.

Pfizer’s protection plunges from 93 per cent to 53 per cent after four months, a study published in The Lancet this week found.

However, the vaccines are still good at preventing 80-90 per cent of infected people from needing a hospital bed and are almost 100 per cent protective against death.

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– Ahaus667 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

All humans are almost 100 percent protected against death from Covid. So they’re literally lying to your face by pushing the same numbers. They said the vaccine would prevent any infection, then it was prevent any hospitalization, then it was prevent any ICU care, then it was prevent any death. Now, we are, less than a year in of vaccinations, saying well it reduces death!, how long until that changes too?

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– throwawayaccount2037 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Now, we are, less than a year in of vaccinations, saying well it reduces death!, how long until that changes too?

Have the propagandists in Israel come up with an excuse? Because those poor kids are dropping like flies under 18 who got vaxxed,

I'm also really curious what sort of excuse they'll use for more vaxxed people dying to COVID than the unvaccinated and the numbers are unequivocally clear? Just ignore it and keep pushing the lies or will they pivot to something else?

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Prof. Bartlett said: “It’s immunity you want supported by the vaccine but then sort of topped up, by circulation and that’s really is what’s going to ultimately lead to make this turn this virus into basically an endemic, common cold causing virus, and that’s what you want it to be”.

In other words: "let it spread among people at low risk of serious illness to build up herd immunity so that those at more serious risk are less likely to contract it".

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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

That would make sense if they had not been so dishonest about everything. Now I don't trust anything that they say.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

I don't trust them; I just think about how we handle chickenpox, which has a very similar risk profile to WuFlu (kids rarely get seriously ill, the elderly are at high risk of serious illness). And that's consistent with how we deal with it.

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– Kaarous 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Well that's just an obvious lie, you've been a fake vaxx pusher for months despite a cavalcade of side effects and lethalities being paraded around this /c nearly the whole time.

But apparently some doubletalk is what changed your mind? Pull the other one.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Settle down now, I get that you're mad that you are still mad that I criticized your support for Hitler a few months ago. That is no license to lie. There's no 'fake vaxx', dumbass.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

the have a lot of experience in crafting lies.

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– MonsterUltra 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

We have now hit natural immunity with extra steps.

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