Windows 11 [is trash] review
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Well they haven't sold me on it. Even if I believed all their hardware security crap had nothing but good and noble intentions (I don't) I don't want my operating system constantly trying to protect me from stuff. It's the same as the rest of the world I'm not interested in having things keep me "safe" all the damn time.
Besides all that, if I wanted the Apple taskbar at the bottom of the screen I'd buy a Mac. That's all I can see they are offering as "improvements". Microsoft Teams integrated now? What the hell is that? Android apps if they get it are just an excuse for developers to be lazy and make bad software.
It's becoming all too clear I'm turning very quickly into a Linux guy, and I wasn't for a very long time. I just want my computer to leave me the hell alone, quit trying to help me, and quit trying to keep me safe. Probably more of an old codger that would rather use DOS. Maybe I should start working on porting a browser to DOS.
The entire world is transitioning away from individual freedom and property ownership and I don't like where we're going to end up
Teams is cortana 2.0, and they love their remote access baked in. ive heard that the taskbar is no longer movable, though i have not bothered to care or try it myself. i will second the vote for a browser port, that would be kinda cool and we could get a thread going for it someday.
I don't see why you don't think of yourself as a linux person, those are all the main reasons I switched.
If you're actually being serious about DOS though, god speed, people are still doing cool things with it.
https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=wQCiZtnJekU
Yeah I pretty much in the last year and a half have gone 75% Linux. I'd played with it for years but this is the first time it's stuck. I'll probably see about putting on my tiny little laptop too soon as well. I think part of it was going to KDE instead and the hardware support improving as well.
Not in the slightest serious about DOS, although that video is cool so I'll have to watch the whole thing. I have started thinking about screwing around with old tech, but if I do it will be something more like 8-bit or 16-bit CPUs where the hardware is much closer to the software. It would be totally for fun and probably never lead to anything useful. Maybe something like trying Sega Genesis homebrew or something like that. I learned all my programming skills as a kid mostly in QBasic or compiled C, all this modern day object oriented patching together pre-made frameworks isn't for me.
Old tech is a lot of fun, and if you start working on deeply embedded systems (eg. the microcontroller that controls an electric toothbrush) or extremely cost sensitive embedded systems they tend to use chips that are either very similar to or the same as those old 8/16-bit CPUs. Though that is changing somewhat as the the smaller 32-bit microcontrollers continue to come down in price.
If you don't want to go DOS, throw Windows 95 or 98 on a VM and play with it sometime. Or OS/2 Warp if you want to play with something a bit more exotic. Those OSes pretty much do the same stuff Windows 11 does: run a web browser, run Word.
OS/2 would be interesting. Just because I think that's one of the PC-based operating systems I don't think I've ever even seen in use before.
I'm thinking about trying out some sort of old game console or a C64 or something like that. I never did anything with hardware that had good support for graphics and sound. I'm sure nothing will come of it, but I've always liked just trying things.
I think the only thing that drove me to ever upgrade was the new formatting that allows bigger file sizes and more memory.
There's only one reason I don't run Linux on my main system and Windows in a VM: Gaming.
If the game developers of the few games I play would develop for Linux I would ditch it in a heart beat.
There's speculation at least with the Steam Deck being a thing now that might actually happen.
What distribution did you utilize for le gaming?
Boy, these Ars Windows reviews just aren't the same without Dr. Pizza at the helm.
They could have just said "compatible". Any compatible CPU is going to be at least dual core, over 1 GHz and 64 bit. My fourth gen i5 can still run any game I've thrown at it fine but it can't support the latest Windows. No thanks. I'm sure they will cut off 10's support for the latest DirectX at some point to try to force it.
I think the slowest processor you can get today is around 1.6... in the cheap laptops.
actually no... the microsoft laptops have a 1.1ghz in some of them, I think. the slowest for builders is around 2.8 afair right.
I don't know a ton about tech, but has anyone managed to get Windows 7 installed on a new computer? That would be the holy grail if it were possible.
a bunch of servers at my work are still running 7, alongside server 2008 and 2012.
I made a permanent switch to Linux when Windows Seven went End Of Life. That is my suggestion for anyone who is still burning a candle for Seven, move and don't look back.
How's gaming and running other programs on Linux? I need to be able to run my Steam library, MS office, and programming languages like Python and R before I could even consider switching.
Works great for my library. https://www.protondb.com/
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11182/how-to-get-ryzen-working-on-windows-7-x64
Oh god. Anyone know when they roll it out en masse? I was forcefully updated to win10 and don't want to be forced to get this garbage.
Tbh I just want win 7 back. :(
XP-64 was the pinnacle of Windows operating systems. They basically took the 64-bit build of Server 2003 and threw the consumer OS software packages onto it. So it felt like you were running Server but without all the issues you normally have trying to use Server as a desktop machine.
memries tho
for those of you who want to experiment, and see how it was, back when OS's respected you,
Well "respect" is a relative term. XP was the first OS that required online (or phone) activation. And the first to complain about "non-genuine" versions if it detected you were using a pirate key. That pissed a lot of people off at the time. Win2K was probably the last version that "respected" (or at least "trusted") its customers.
But XP was the last OS where I felt like I was getting something from upgrading.
my guess... in the coming year... you could use w7 on an old pc in theory, but taking it online would be a nightmare. w8 is still available for 1 more year, you can use that until there are better options...
I’m still using Windows 7 lol
People complain about every Windows release, especially media outlets. I have Windows 11 on the laptop next to me for testing, and the vast majority of complaints are overblown for clicks.
There are really only two negative points. The first is the simplification and modernization of the UI, but only if you're a power user. A lot of the menus that were a hodge-podge of 10 and 7 UI elements are now unified with a single UI. This is more cohesive and easier to navigate for the average user. The downside is that some items now take more clicks to access (ex. power settings) and others are gone entirely (ex. some taskbar customization). The moved items won't matter much once you get set up, but the few items that have been changed or removed may be a loss for some users (ex. anyone currently using their taskbar on the side of their screen).
The second negative point is the stringent system requirements. Some computers that are new-ish are ineligible for the upgrade, and although you can bypass the requirements, it'll be unsupported. I don't think this is the big deal people have made it out to be. If you like Windows 10, keep using it. It's still supported for years and isn't going away anytime soon. It's better to have a functional OS with new features instead of a bloated one weighed down by legacy support.
For positive points, I think there a lot. It's a free upgrade to start, and still works with 7 keys (even if unofficially supported). Overall performance is improved. By moving widgets to their own display, the live tile start menu mess is gone. A clean install lacks the unnecessary extras that came with Windows 10. The new UI is largely better (did anyone like 10's file explorer ribbon?) with features exposed in a more usable way (battery trending in the Settings app vs. Windows 10 having it in a command line utility).
I'd argue Windows 11 is a fairly small change overall, especially in comparison to some previous releases (8 and Vista in particular). Navigating the OS should be intuitive to a Windows 10 user, opposed to the re-learning required in the past. There's really not much of consequence to argue or complain about, so I imagine most media outlets will lambast the UI, as they do every generation.
Which version are you using? Home requires a MS account and internet. That's bullshit enough to call windows 11 trash.
Pro, works just the same as Windows 10 when bypassing (select "I don't have internet").
afaik w10 is only supported a few more years.
is it true that the ways of having names on your windows has been removed? I dont think that will be easier for normies, even the computer literate ones.
this is the continuous meme pushed by microshills. W10 isnt bloated because of legacy, its bloated because ms redid everything that worked, put in a totally new system of applications that are inferior to their predecessor (UWP) which has been a bust for near 8 years straight now, and theyre still trying to get people to use it. this aint happpenin, ms. never .
W10 would be really fast if MS would remove ALL THE NEW SHIT that no one wanted in the OS. proof: try the edition without cortana and the new frameworks, its just as fast as W8 and W7 were.
Old code isnt slowing down MS, its their talentless immigrants who MS fired employees for.
the ceo is an untalented pajeet hire too. he told employees to just skip meetings. he fired the QA team. ms is flailing and in the final years of people's use of their operating systems, nadalla just doesnt know it yet.
Moving the start menu and forcing the task bar to be a dock is just as major as W8 getting rid of it altogether. Vista wasnt a big ui change, it was closer to a "theme" pack, that otherwise kept the underlying system the same (control panel, start, and other mainstays of the windows operating system).
But most are not skilled w0 users because of its unfriendlyness to noobies.
Can you share the articles that youd read of media outlets lambasting Windows 7's UI? (Or even Windows 8.1?)