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posted 4 years ago by FBoysInc 4 years ago by FBoysInc +31 / -0
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– brappablat 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

A parallel society. Alt-right. Alt-tech. Alt-institutions. Alt-currency. Alt-financial system. Alt-internet. Alt-country. Civil war. Balkanization. A tense decades long split a la FRG/DDR or ROK/DPRK

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– Tourgen 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Absolutely impossible I believe. They aren’t producers or innovators. They cannot let the productive base separate as they are simply insatiable parasites. They will ruthlessly smash any attempt the host makes to escape. This train has no stops.

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– ailurus 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Not impossible, but I think it very unlikely given one of the sides seems most concerned about punishing those who disagree.

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– JaxBoot 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

The vax mandates are as much of an ideological purge as anything else. Submit to the beast system and you might be rewarded with a few extra breadcrumbs.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Guilds and apprenticeships, I would imagine. The simple reality is we don't have the same resources as our enemies and therefore can't structure our institutions in the same way. But we can benefit from the fact that information is a lot more widely and freely available than it ever has been and that we have a lot of individuals with a lot of varied experience to draw upon even if they don't exist in formal institutions like universities

As it is fresh graduates are still pretty useless starting out in any technical job, and it takes a fair amount of time for someone to learn the fine details of their particular job and how their particular company/department does things. What university does is cut down on the amount of time the company has to spend on training, because you receive basic training from the university. And since the student is paying for it and not the company, the company saves money on training as well. If the structure of that arrangement changes so that the company provides all the training they'd get from university and on the job (which the student pays for by doing work commensurate with their level of training as they work through the curriculum as well as a minimum duration to spend at the company once they're fully trained) then you could potentially do away with the university entirely.

I'll give an example of this sort of progression I've seen in my own particular field of software, but I can't think of a reason why other technical disciplines couldn't come up with a similar sort of progression:

  • Guy gets hired "off the street" (no degree or formal programming experience) to do software testing or tech support. Sharp guy and a good worker and starts to pick up an interest in programming which he translates to programming projects he does in his spare time
  • Boss picks up on this interest and starts treating him like a part-time dev intern when he's not doing testing: gets some of the shit work that the other devs don't want to or don't have time to do to see if he has an aptitude. He's expected to learn some of the material he would have learned in school, and of course he has access to the more experienced devs to provide guidance as needed.
  • As he completes more complex tasks eventually he "graduates" to full-time dev

I will say though that this was rare because it required a degree of trust and loyalty on both sides that is difficult to find in modern corporate America.

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– FrostedCricketFlakes 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

The only issue is when conforming is required to practice. Some industries, like programming don't require a degree (although some companies might). In other industries required licensing or insurance may require a degree, or supporting a particular political ideologies, being injected, or whatever other burden the respective agencies (including government) wish to force.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Licensed industries is probably going to require a degree of lawfare to either carve out unlicensed exceptions or defend people who go right up against the line where someone would need a license. Thinking for example of parents who hire "tutors" to "aid" in the homeschooling of their children that wouldn't require the teaching license/credential.

This is where a right-wing version of the National Lawyers Guild would come in handy.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

But if your goal is to have some parallel system then you're allowed to change the rules. You don't depend on companies to do this, but you look at how it can be done and has been done in the past and attempt to formalize that arrangement to make it work for us.

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– todiwan 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

"Go out and fight"

It's not a fucking boxing ring. It's not a political fight between people on equal footing. It's the equivalent of telling Jews to "just go out and fight it" in Nazi Germany.

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– todiwan 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Oh, you're not wrong at all. It's admirable for an individual to fight, but can you EXPECT every single person to be able to fight? I don't think so. Someone has to lead and inspire.

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– spambot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

sorry to be negative but if your relying on a leader to pick up the reigns and glue people together that's a massive point of failure to be exploited but you are right inspiration is needed to hold any cause together well that or a lot of hate but that's temporary usually

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– evilmathmagician 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We have to do away with this notion that college, not experience, is what really matters.

I would highly recommend a test of ability/skill rather than relying on claims of experience. Years of experience might just mean you rode the clock and collected paychecks (you could call those references, but can you trust what they say?). You can't really fake a practical test. Might even save everyone a lot of time and money.

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