There are tons and tons of people who normally say that "health care is a right", but suddenly when it comes to people they don't like, try to make excuses to deny them this supposed right.
There were the "experts" in "bio-ethics" who in early May 2020 argued that those who attend anti-lockdown protests should be denied medical care, because they put themselves at risk by attending protests. Those same people then supported rioting and looting.
Now it's about vaccines, which a lot of them attacked as having been pushed through by Trump. Which they think is Trump supporters, even though ethnic minorities are vastly overrepresented among the unvaccinated as well (in the US and in Europe). They will gladly ignore that to get back at Trump supporters though.
But the same argument can be made about weight. I was once very overweight before I started taking health seriously. If I were to have a heart attack in my late 50s due to bad eating habits isn’t that my fault? If someone refuses the vax and gets sick from Covid I would imagine it would have more to do with their overall health than a vaccine
I feel like arguing in favor of denying healthcare to the unvaccinated is almost virtue signaling to some degree. How taxed have ICUs been in general? I am sure there are some that hit capacity, but I know a bunch with plenty of beds.
For my state, we have been right around 58% ICU capacity used for some time now. The issue of scarcity has yet to be an issue, with the ICU usage only increasing by a few percent.
Aren't ICUs generally setup to run at a certain percentage of occupancy year round for cost savings reasons? Most places I have looked up the numbers show that the vast majority of people in the ICU are there for unrelated issues.
Take a look at NY's ICU numbers.... 5k beds, 3k used for non-covid and 500 for covid patients. (https://archive.ph/lXRRm) Where's the problem?
My point is authoritarians spouting off about their control fantasies is fucking frightening, but as of yet it seems that scarcity has yet to be a real issue. (not to discount the real possibility that availability of resources will stop these fags from taking away peoples rights some more)
There are tons and tons of people who normally say that "health care is a right", but suddenly when it comes to people they don't like, try to make excuses to deny them this supposed right.
There were the "experts" in "bio-ethics" who in early May 2020 argued that those who attend anti-lockdown protests should be denied medical care, because they put themselves at risk by attending protests. Those same people then supported rioting and looting.
Now it's about vaccines, which a lot of them attacked as having been pushed through by Trump. Which they think is Trump supporters, even though ethnic minorities are vastly overrepresented among the unvaccinated as well (in the US and in Europe). They will gladly ignore that to get back at Trump supporters though.
But the same argument can be made about weight. I was once very overweight before I started taking health seriously. If I were to have a heart attack in my late 50s due to bad eating habits isn’t that my fault? If someone refuses the vax and gets sick from Covid I would imagine it would have more to do with their overall health than a vaccine
Homer Simpson for President 2024.
I feel like arguing in favor of denying healthcare to the unvaccinated is almost virtue signaling to some degree. How taxed have ICUs been in general? I am sure there are some that hit capacity, but I know a bunch with plenty of beds.
For my state, we have been right around 58% ICU capacity used for some time now. The issue of scarcity has yet to be an issue, with the ICU usage only increasing by a few percent.
Aren't ICUs generally setup to run at a certain percentage of occupancy year round for cost savings reasons? Most places I have looked up the numbers show that the vast majority of people in the ICU are there for unrelated issues.
Take a look at NY's ICU numbers.... 5k beds, 3k used for non-covid and 500 for covid patients. (https://archive.ph/lXRRm) Where's the problem?
My point is authoritarians spouting off about their control fantasies is fucking frightening, but as of yet it seems that scarcity has yet to be a real issue. (not to discount the real possibility that availability of resources will stop these fags from taking away peoples rights some more)
Pre COVID ICUs were designed to run at 90-95% capacity for profit maximizing returns.
eject the economists
This is evil.
The Economist is hiring 12 year olds now?