We went into Afghanistan to build the trans-afghan pipeline. If you had been paying attention to the building delays and constantly changing completion dates you would have noticed that every time a President talked about extending our troops' stay there, there was a delay in the completion of the pipeline.
The trans-Afghan pipeline completed in 2020. We handed over protection duties to the Taliban. Our withdrawal and their "invasion" was little more than a business deal.
I learned about it in 2005 after Ted Koppel elucidated the pipeline's development on Nightline and then 2 months later he announced his retirement and no one talked about it again.
The weird thing is that building a pipeline to circumvent russian influence is a perfectly reasonable reason to partake in military action. Because it's furthering the national interest.
It’s very clearly stated in the Quran that all non-Muslim governments need to be destroyed. The idea that we just made them mad by fighting Saddam Hussein is ridiculous. You can go back to the times of Thomas Jefferson’s trip to Tripoli, before the US even existed, and Muslims were just as militant and insane, and they cited the Quran for their aggressive violence against all infidels. The fact that Muslims are still violent and insane has little if anything to do with “blowback.”
Treating Osama Bin Laden as a rational actor is ridiculous. Listening to his crackpot videos and taking them seriously is absurd. He was not an honest or sane person. He created propaganda and of course tried to make Muslims seem like sympathetic victims who just want to be left alone. History tells an entirely different story.
Ron Paul is right about a lot but this argument is awful. He is right about nation building being a disaster, but that doesn’t mean we can just be isolationists. Trump has the best foreign policy: go around the world and fuck anyone up who even hints at fucking with us. Do it in a few days and leave these losers to rebuild their own countries. It’s not our job.
Trump could have successfully withdrawn from Afghanistan because his threats are taken seriously, because he follows through on them. Biden could not because everyone knows he is a spiness pussy and will do whatever China tells him to do, so the Taliban is walking all over him.
I don't like how quickly the US government has chosen to fail in Afghanistan, but at the same time, I'm much more worried about what the US military is going to be doing in the US then overseas.
I want the government where I can see it's hands.
"Eyes are the windows to the soul, hands are the window to intent."
I am now certain that Ron Paul would likely have won the republican primary in 2008 if not for the Industrial Media Fraud and Propaganda Complex. I remember when he'd win second in a state and the media wouldn't mention him when reporting on it.
It was always going to be a bad withdrawl. Either the US went scorched earth and declared victory over the ashes, or the US withdraws and the power vacuum gets filled in. Now that we're out and the damage is done, the US should proceed to stay the fuck out and focus it's military on being defensible against China.
The US could have made power sharing agreements with the local warlords outside of Kabul. But it feels like the Americans may have tried to create a globalist colony from Kabul and that was never going to work.
A surprising number of former military join private contractors and do exactly that. Just with proper funding and less political interference.
The rest of us go, "Okay, the politicians aren't listening again. Let's go fix the government."
There were a lot of former Vietnam Vets who became politically active. The Iraq vets are already politically active. I can imagine that the establishment would be very nervous about more veterans getting more politically active, especially since a lot of them support Trump.
Rofl.
He was 100% correct in every single thing he said. Every single fucking thing.
The guy at 2:44 who calls on him to retract his statement... Reminds me of the dude in Starship Troopers saying "Brain bugs? Frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks O-FFENSIVE!"
They didn't ignore it.
We went into Afghanistan to build the trans-afghan pipeline. If you had been paying attention to the building delays and constantly changing completion dates you would have noticed that every time a President talked about extending our troops' stay there, there was a delay in the completion of the pipeline.
The trans-Afghan pipeline completed in 2020. We handed over protection duties to the Taliban. Our withdrawal and their "invasion" was little more than a business deal.
I learned about it in 2005 after Ted Koppel elucidated the pipeline's development on Nightline and then 2 months later he announced his retirement and no one talked about it again.
This is the first I'm hearing of it. Elites do love their black gold.
The weird thing is that building a pipeline to circumvent russian influence is a perfectly reasonable reason to partake in military action. Because it's furthering the national interest.
Every war by every nation is justified as furthering it's national interest.
I was a supporter as well. GOP really screwed him in 12
Sorry but no.
It’s very clearly stated in the Quran that all non-Muslim governments need to be destroyed. The idea that we just made them mad by fighting Saddam Hussein is ridiculous. You can go back to the times of Thomas Jefferson’s trip to Tripoli, before the US even existed, and Muslims were just as militant and insane, and they cited the Quran for their aggressive violence against all infidels. The fact that Muslims are still violent and insane has little if anything to do with “blowback.”
Treating Osama Bin Laden as a rational actor is ridiculous. Listening to his crackpot videos and taking them seriously is absurd. He was not an honest or sane person. He created propaganda and of course tried to make Muslims seem like sympathetic victims who just want to be left alone. History tells an entirely different story.
Ron Paul is right about a lot but this argument is awful. He is right about nation building being a disaster, but that doesn’t mean we can just be isolationists. Trump has the best foreign policy: go around the world and fuck anyone up who even hints at fucking with us. Do it in a few days and leave these losers to rebuild their own countries. It’s not our job.
Trump could have successfully withdrawn from Afghanistan because his threats are taken seriously, because he follows through on them. Biden could not because everyone knows he is a spiness pussy and will do whatever China tells him to do, so the Taliban is walking all over him.
The Taliban aren't the good guys, but they never should have been our problem.
Yeah. But They became our problem on 9/11
Then we should have annexed Afghanistan and glassed them instead of this pussy footing around.
A lot can be said about Bush. But he actually played Afghanistan pretty well. And so did Trump, of course.
The problem was Obama. We had a literal traitor in office for 8 years. If Flynn didn’t expose him shit would be 10x worse than it already is.
iNtErnAtiOnaL pOlicE
You guys really love buzz words.
We aren’t playing international police by looking for the terrorists who killed 4K civilians on our own soil.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, because I am not sure I remember this correctly.
But didn't Trump suggest withdrawal from Afghanistan a few years ago, and got massive blowback for it? Or was that Syria?
In any case, the whole thing is indeed pointless. A second Vietnam as Ron pointed out.
I don't like how quickly the US government has chosen to fail in Afghanistan, but at the same time, I'm much more worried about what the US military is going to be doing in the US then overseas.
I want the government where I can see it's hands.
"Eyes are the windows to the soul, hands are the window to intent."
I am now certain that Ron Paul would likely have won the republican primary in 2008 if not for the Industrial Media Fraud and Propaganda Complex. I remember when he'd win second in a state and the media wouldn't mention him when reporting on it.
The media talking head is an ass. Loaded leading questions. Globalist scum. Giuliani sounds like a Neo-con scumbag in this.
It was always going to be a bad withdrawl. Either the US went scorched earth and declared victory over the ashes, or the US withdraws and the power vacuum gets filled in. Now that we're out and the damage is done, the US should proceed to stay the fuck out and focus it's military on being defensible against China.
The US could have made power sharing agreements with the local warlords outside of Kabul. But it feels like the Americans may have tried to create a globalist colony from Kabul and that was never going to work.
In your last sentence I think you meant weaken our military so China’s takeover is easier.
Despite how terrible our government is, China is worse.
American tragedy.
I wonder what those vets with their faces burned off and limbs blown away think about this.
I can tell you from first hand experience that the Nam, Iraq, and Afghan vets all do.
Help?
A surprising number of former military join private contractors and do exactly that. Just with proper funding and less political interference.
The rest of us go, "Okay, the politicians aren't listening again. Let's go fix the government."
There were a lot of former Vietnam Vets who became politically active. The Iraq vets are already politically active. I can imagine that the establishment would be very nervous about more veterans getting more politically active, especially since a lot of them support Trump.