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The US Government will now be spying on your text messages -- Get the experimental jab like a good sheep or else (archive.is)
posted 4 years ago by CptLightning 4 years ago by CptLightning +104 / -0
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– randomuser88385 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

Use an end to end encrypted messenger, I got most of my family and friends to switch to signal. Others I know use whatsapp, but fuck Zuckerberg.

I'm prepared to leave signal the instant I have cause to believe it is compromised.

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– Yashimata 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Is it good? I've been trying to figure out which messenger is the least terrible option to use these days. Even signal got $50m from somewhere, but I have no idea if it was legitimate money or not.

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– Booker 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

I use Signal for its end-to-end encryption, FOSS nature, availability on F-Droid, ability to permanently delete messages, and its widespread market adoption. Ultimately if no one else uses the messenger then it's useless.

There's been a lot written about all the messenger options, but Michael Bazzell with IntelTechniques uses Signal, and I tend to align with his recommendations since his job is literally to help people disappear.

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– truenationalist 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Signal seems good, but if your phone is confiscated you're in trouble regardless unless you have encrypted all the data contents through some other means.

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– Booker 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I set rules that messages auto-delete after a duration of my choosing. The effect is carried onto both ends of the messenger.

It's not perfect. If you use Android's default keyboard, your typing could still be logged. Assume if you're on factory Android or Windows 10 you're running a compromised system no matter what messenger you're using. If you can get by with it, run a de-Googled LineageOS or other ROM with a similar effect.

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– randomuser88385 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Yeah it's good. I'm not that demanding though. Encryption only works if both parties have it of course.

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– snowpuppy 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

For those looking for alternatives, Telegram is either centrally encrypted (normal "cloud chats") or end-to-end encrypted ("secret chats") and the liberals of Silicon Valley talk shit about it which suggests that it's the best option. Signal's encryption is adopted by spying companies like Facebook and Microsoft which is suspicious. Also Signal's leader hides his jewish name behind a stupid pseudonym, that's another red flag. Telegram has a lot more features and better apps.

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– my-oh-mai 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

If anyone is planning to use Telegram, get it from their website. The Play Store version has censorship. Or you can use Telegram-FOSS from F-droid.

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– DC-SNIPEHUNT 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Wickr, Wire, Keybase are all good. Wickr is probably the weak link.

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– Booker 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Wickr got bought out by Amazon. Assume it's completely compromised.

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– DC-SNIPEHUNT 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ah so that's why everyone I know is using wire and keybase now. Keybase is hella legit. You can share credentials to prove your identity.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– randomuser88385 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I heard about it because Antfia uses it to organize. It's a tool.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– Booker 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's open source. The code has been evaluated by third party privacy advocates, and you can do the same. It's not perfect, but it's a huge push in the right direction.

Ultimately, you need to decide what your threat model looks like. If the omniscient cabal of women are after you and you specifically, your choice of chat app won't keep you out of jail. If you just like to text the N word to your buddies because you think it's funny, running Signal is leagues better than blasting embarrassing texts over SMS for some asshole at the phone company to store forever and the NSA to retrieve and leak whenever you become politically inconvenient.

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