Little point after Trump failed to do what was necessary on 1/6.
I still maintain that Q was a net positive all things considered, in that it successfully deprogrammed Boomers from their ingrained belief that government officials were well-meaning but either incompetent or stymied by the system.
A significant percentage of the population believing government officials are irredeemably evil is useful for our purposes, and I don't believe that would have been the case without Q even if it was more fantasy than fact.
Just to be clear, 'Q' is referring to the 4-chan poster, right? I tapped out of the Q-conspiracy immediately after it appeared and involved fucking riddles. Whole thing seemed too retarded to take seriously.
How did it deprogram boomers? What is 'it', if not forum posts? Legitimately have no idea how that would spread outside extremely niche circles, or have relevance to sentiments the last 4-5 years in any shape or form.
Is any change in public sentiment really attributable to Q?
Q was like Nostradamus: cryptic posts where the more important aspect of the movement was the (many) people interpreting the cryptic posts. And everyone had their favorite interpreter.
It had a massive following, much more than you'd expect from something that originated on the chans. Go to a Trump rally or a lockdown protest and you'd see references to Q. And the people with Q signs/flags weren't spending their days on /pol/. You'd think it would be niche, but it wasn't.
It (the community that grew around the chan posts) deprogrammed Boomers by making them aware that the system was not simply a disinterested but otherwise trustworthy party but rather an untrustworthy, hostile actor. It did this by telling a story about how the forces of evil (the Deep State) were working behind the scenes to defeat the forces of good (Trump and his guys) while also signaling that the forces of good were aware of these attempts and attempting to counter them.
I have a somewhat different view, it always looked to me that a younger generation was buying into the Q larp, and some evangelical religious types more broadly.
Most boomers have seen enough generations of corrupt politicians come and go to know that none of them are going to get anything worthwhile done for the people, but the bankers always end up with a winning hand. Wash, rinse, repeat.
The boomers still believe in participating in the process though. I think that distinguishes them from the younger generations: I think the idea that there is no political solution is a bit more prevalent among younger generations.
Most political arguments I get into with my neocon boomer parents fundamentally boil down to them implicitly trusting the institutions and assuming disinterest whereas I implicitly distrust them and assume malevolence.
The institutions in the US are completely corrupt and self serving; the people I see here in Seattle, the 'alternative community', are the strongest believers in "government knows best" of any place or people I've ever seen. Ever, anywhere.
That's because they think the Seattle government is fighting the good fight against the Feds and to a lesser extent the State. In a way it's understandable: if I lived someplace where I though the local government was actually working for my interests I'd probably be pro-government too. It's just that I've never lived someplace where I thought that.
I still maintain that Q was a net positive all things considered, in that it successfully deprogrammed Boomers from their ingrained belief that government officials were well-meaning but either incompetent or stymied by the system.
Replacing one set of bad beliefs with another set of bad beliefs is not really progress.
A significant percentage of the population believing government officials are irredeemably evil is useful for our purposes
I am not sure. Although it will be impossible to teach a large number of people how organizations like the government actually work, it's far better to be able to pressure the government into doing what you want, rather than believing that it's just 'evil'.
Little point after Trump failed to do what was necessary on 1/6.
I still maintain that Q was a net positive all things considered, in that it successfully deprogrammed Boomers from their ingrained belief that government officials were well-meaning but either incompetent or stymied by the system.
A significant percentage of the population believing government officials are irredeemably evil is useful for our purposes, and I don't believe that would have been the case without Q even if it was more fantasy than fact.
Just to be clear, 'Q' is referring to the 4-chan poster, right? I tapped out of the Q-conspiracy immediately after it appeared and involved fucking riddles. Whole thing seemed too retarded to take seriously.
How did it deprogram boomers? What is 'it', if not forum posts? Legitimately have no idea how that would spread outside extremely niche circles, or have relevance to sentiments the last 4-5 years in any shape or form.
Is any change in public sentiment really attributable to Q?
Q was like Nostradamus: cryptic posts where the more important aspect of the movement was the (many) people interpreting the cryptic posts. And everyone had their favorite interpreter.
It had a massive following, much more than you'd expect from something that originated on the chans. Go to a Trump rally or a lockdown protest and you'd see references to Q. And the people with Q signs/flags weren't spending their days on /pol/. You'd think it would be niche, but it wasn't.
It (the community that grew around the chan posts) deprogrammed Boomers by making them aware that the system was not simply a disinterested but otherwise trustworthy party but rather an untrustworthy, hostile actor. It did this by telling a story about how the forces of evil (the Deep State) were working behind the scenes to defeat the forces of good (Trump and his guys) while also signaling that the forces of good were aware of these attempts and attempting to counter them.
I have a somewhat different view, it always looked to me that a younger generation was buying into the Q larp, and some evangelical religious types more broadly.
Most boomers have seen enough generations of corrupt politicians come and go to know that none of them are going to get anything worthwhile done for the people, but the bankers always end up with a winning hand. Wash, rinse, repeat.
The boomers still believe in participating in the process though. I think that distinguishes them from the younger generations: I think the idea that there is no political solution is a bit more prevalent among younger generations.
Most political arguments I get into with my neocon boomer parents fundamentally boil down to them implicitly trusting the institutions and assuming disinterest whereas I implicitly distrust them and assume malevolence.
The institutions in the US are completely corrupt and self serving; the people I see here in Seattle, the 'alternative community', are the strongest believers in "government knows best" of any place or people I've ever seen. Ever, anywhere.
That's because they think the Seattle government is fighting the good fight against the Feds and to a lesser extent the State. In a way it's understandable: if I lived someplace where I though the local government was actually working for my interests I'd probably be pro-government too. It's just that I've never lived someplace where I thought that.
Replacing one set of bad beliefs with another set of bad beliefs is not really progress.
I am not sure. Although it will be impossible to teach a large number of people how organizations like the government actually work, it's far better to be able to pressure the government into doing what you want, rather than believing that it's just 'evil'.
I'm not sure QAnon is an improvement over conventional Boomerism.
Ask these guys, there's a lot of Q-tards over there. https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/
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I think Q was a psy-op from the establishment glow in the darks to keep right wingers placated and docile.
They also used Q to bait boomer Trump supporters on 1/6 at the Capitol.
My guess to who was making the Q posts is rat Jared Kushner.
Dear god there is no way Kushner could ever be that creative, he's such a dullard.
I vote for a psy ops that percolated up out of the chans, then a bunch of money-grubbing youtube predators latched onto it.
I think Kushner was an agent of the glow in the darks.
He doesn't have to be creative when they undoubtedly have many analysts in agencies coming up with the material for Q posts.
Q reeks of a intel psy-op.
I think it was Kushner solely because he was the most subversive piece of shit in Trump's administration.
Kushner doesn't need to be creative to write the Q posts.
I think he was an agent of the glow in the darks.
The glowies likely delegate it to analysts who come up with the material for the Q posts.
I think it was Kushner running the Q psy-op just because he was the most subversive piece of shit in Trump's administration.
Q was a very obviously a fake of one kind or another.
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Q was a pacification psy-op likely conducted by "our" alphabet soup agencies.
It was the boulderman.
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