Little point after Trump failed to do what was necessary on 1/6.
I still maintain that Q was a net positive all things considered, in that it successfully deprogrammed Boomers from their ingrained belief that government officials were well-meaning but either incompetent or stymied by the system.
A significant percentage of the population believing government officials are irredeemably evil is useful for our purposes, and I don't believe that would have been the case without Q even if it was more fantasy than fact.
Just to be clear, 'Q' is referring to the 4-chan poster, right? I tapped out of the Q-conspiracy immediately after it appeared and involved fucking riddles. Whole thing seemed too retarded to take seriously.
How did it deprogram boomers? What is 'it', if not forum posts? Legitimately have no idea how that would spread outside extremely niche circles, or have relevance to sentiments the last 4-5 years in any shape or form.
Is any change in public sentiment really attributable to Q?
Q was like Nostradamus: cryptic posts where the more important aspect of the movement was the (many) people interpreting the cryptic posts. And everyone had their favorite interpreter.
It had a massive following, much more than you'd expect from something that originated on the chans. Go to a Trump rally or a lockdown protest and you'd see references to Q. And the people with Q signs/flags weren't spending their days on /pol/. You'd think it would be niche, but it wasn't.
It (the community that grew around the chan posts) deprogrammed Boomers by making them aware that the system was not simply a disinterested but otherwise trustworthy party but rather an untrustworthy, hostile actor. It did this by telling a story about how the forces of evil (the Deep State) were working behind the scenes to defeat the forces of good (Trump and his guys) while also signaling that the forces of good were aware of these attempts and attempting to counter them.
I have a somewhat different view, it always looked to me that a younger generation was buying into the Q larp, and some evangelical religious types more broadly.
Most boomers have seen enough generations of corrupt politicians come and go to know that none of them are going to get anything worthwhile done for the people, but the bankers always end up with a winning hand. Wash, rinse, repeat.
The boomers still believe in participating in the process though. I think that distinguishes them from the younger generations: I think the idea that there is no political solution is a bit more prevalent among younger generations.
Most political arguments I get into with my neocon boomer parents fundamentally boil down to them implicitly trusting the institutions and assuming disinterest whereas I implicitly distrust them and assume malevolence.
I still maintain that Q was a net positive all things considered, in that it successfully deprogrammed Boomers from their ingrained belief that government officials were well-meaning but either incompetent or stymied by the system.
Replacing one set of bad beliefs with another set of bad beliefs is not really progress.
A significant percentage of the population believing government officials are irredeemably evil is useful for our purposes
I am not sure. Although it will be impossible to teach a large number of people how organizations like the government actually work, it's far better to be able to pressure the government into doing what you want, rather than believing that it's just 'evil'.
Little point after Trump failed to do what was necessary on 1/6.
I still maintain that Q was a net positive all things considered, in that it successfully deprogrammed Boomers from their ingrained belief that government officials were well-meaning but either incompetent or stymied by the system.
A significant percentage of the population believing government officials are irredeemably evil is useful for our purposes, and I don't believe that would have been the case without Q even if it was more fantasy than fact.
Just to be clear, 'Q' is referring to the 4-chan poster, right? I tapped out of the Q-conspiracy immediately after it appeared and involved fucking riddles. Whole thing seemed too retarded to take seriously.
How did it deprogram boomers? What is 'it', if not forum posts? Legitimately have no idea how that would spread outside extremely niche circles, or have relevance to sentiments the last 4-5 years in any shape or form.
Is any change in public sentiment really attributable to Q?
Q was like Nostradamus: cryptic posts where the more important aspect of the movement was the (many) people interpreting the cryptic posts. And everyone had their favorite interpreter.
It had a massive following, much more than you'd expect from something that originated on the chans. Go to a Trump rally or a lockdown protest and you'd see references to Q. And the people with Q signs/flags weren't spending their days on /pol/. You'd think it would be niche, but it wasn't.
It (the community that grew around the chan posts) deprogrammed Boomers by making them aware that the system was not simply a disinterested but otherwise trustworthy party but rather an untrustworthy, hostile actor. It did this by telling a story about how the forces of evil (the Deep State) were working behind the scenes to defeat the forces of good (Trump and his guys) while also signaling that the forces of good were aware of these attempts and attempting to counter them.
I have a somewhat different view, it always looked to me that a younger generation was buying into the Q larp, and some evangelical religious types more broadly.
Most boomers have seen enough generations of corrupt politicians come and go to know that none of them are going to get anything worthwhile done for the people, but the bankers always end up with a winning hand. Wash, rinse, repeat.
The boomers still believe in participating in the process though. I think that distinguishes them from the younger generations: I think the idea that there is no political solution is a bit more prevalent among younger generations.
Most political arguments I get into with my neocon boomer parents fundamentally boil down to them implicitly trusting the institutions and assuming disinterest whereas I implicitly distrust them and assume malevolence.
Replacing one set of bad beliefs with another set of bad beliefs is not really progress.
I am not sure. Although it will be impossible to teach a large number of people how organizations like the government actually work, it's far better to be able to pressure the government into doing what you want, rather than believing that it's just 'evil'.
I'm not sure QAnon is an improvement over conventional Boomerism.