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Why is there a KotakuInAction and KotakuInAction2?
posted 5 years ago by RussianAgent13 5 years ago by RussianAgent13 +28 / -0

I saw KIA linked on the All Communities sidebar and from the most recent posts assumed it was dead, then I happened to notice a few KIA2 posts on communities.win and apparently this one is active.

Sorry if this has been discussed to death already. I just got here.

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– Adamrises 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Because most of them were very open about their political leanings, acted similarly to those with the same leanings we were in opposition to, and eventually began to use their leanings to define reality to us when enforcing those rules (remember T_D crossposters are all brigaders, SJW are unrelated to Gamegate, and journalists literally getting beaten has nothing to do with ethics in journalism because Rarara didn't like the politics of it? I do).

Politics don't exist in a bubble, they are intertwined with our attitudes, personality and beliefs. That's how we create our politics to begin with and adapt them to the world as we age.

We all agree of the inevitable consequences of communism because of its politics and those who hold them, so why is it so hard to see Leftism has inevitable consequences because of politics and those who hold them?

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Because most of them were very open about their political leanings

So elaborate. Which ones, and what did they say that constituted 'openness about their political leanings'?

We all agree of the inevitable consequences of communism because of its politics and those who hold them, so why is it so hard to see Leftism has inevitable consequences because of politics and those who hold them?

It's not inevitable. But if it were, that would not show that people who censor are necessarily on the left.

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– Adamrises 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

They were open about it because we laterally had a "political compass quiz" thread numerous times over the years and most of them posted in it. This isn't an inference thing, its a literal self reported quiz. If I had the autistic memory you do for every detail of my drama with them, I'd give you better.

Heck I still have my own results saved from two different versions of those threads. Right here because I was interested myself. I believe the 8 values one is the specific thread I'm thinking of, if you want to find it.

But if it were, that would not show that people who censor are necessarily on the left.

Nobody said that. The methodology, and course we went down towards this inevitable end happened because of many of their political roots. Censorship is completely apolitical and can happen in many ways and for many reasons.

For example, taking them at their word, Pinky was the most Right Wing among them and was just as controversial for censorship (and all the other failings levied at them).

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They were open about it because we laterally had a "political compass quiz" thread numerous times over the years and most of them posted in it. This isn't an inference thing, its a literal self reported quiz. If I had the autistic memory you do for every detail of my drama with them, I'd give you better.

I am pretty well aware of the political leanings of the KiA moderators. I don't think you are remembering this correctly. I do know that one of the moderators posted a fake one as a joke.

Heck I still have my own results saved from two different versions of those threads. Right here because I was interested myself. I believe the 8 values one is the specific thread I'm thinking of, if you want to find it.

These are generally not very reliable. According to this one, you are to my left. Surely, that is not the case.

For example, taking them at their word, Pinky was the most Right Wing among them and was just as controversial for censorship (and all the other failings levied at them).

Apparently, she was mostly stupid-wing - a QAnon type. She also called me and some others pedophiles - long before she got into fights over moderation - because we said that Pizzagate was nonsense.

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– Adamrises 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

According to this one, you are to my left. Surely, that is not the case.

Possibly, or perhaps someone's words are always congruent with their actions. Most of the 2010s the SJW types called themselves Liberal, but their actions were anything but.

In this case, when their actions and words are indistinguishable from the rest of a group, its meaningless to say "yeah but they ain't so nyeh." Same with Antifa calling themselves anti-fascist, same with real Neo-Nazis claiming they aren't anti-black, or /pol/tards saying they are just "saying the truth."

Also as an aside, my "what I wish was the case" politics and "what reality we live in" politics are very different.

Apparently, she was mostly stupid-wing

Who knows, that one was a loose cannon no matter what umbrella she fell under. Though she was a great example of my previous point in that her screeching, name calling, and then banning everything made her indistinguishable from a generic SJW. Which is why everyone called her one.

Unlike you, very few of us had personal and close understanding of these people, so all we can judge them on is what we see and call it as it was. Double so if they are posting "fake political" tests.

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