Only because it was a vote held among the developers as a group. It's easy for the woke to infiltrate a few key leadership positions (especially when technical prowess isn't required) but far more difficult to do so in a setting like this.
I imagine most large corporations who pull woke shenanigans would have a similar outcome if they put it up to an anonymous cot of their employees rather shareholders
Some of Stallman's comments made there are disgusting (the pedophilia and abortion comments), but what does that have to do with the FSF board? You can't deny he has earned his spot there considering all that he has done.
Wasn't the pedophilia comment about somebody accused of sexual relations with a 17 year old - i.e. somebody who is above the age of consent in most places?
30s+ roastie women are not getting their promised divorce-rape cuckcold reteriment plans and they are mad as hell. Looking at a fertile, attractive young women will be a crime sooner rather than later.
I agree, but marxist control more than corporate control. The usual suspects are increasing their influence in the software space. It used to be at corporations like Google, but it is extending into the open-source world now.
Some people argue that the FSF and the GPL license are already communist in nature. I don't think I have an argument against that. I don't think there is a "class struggle" though so I can see marxists wanting to add that.
I think that’s a dumb argument tbh. Think of it this way, if there was no government regulation enforcing “intellectual property ownership”, then this wouldn’t be an issue in the first place. If you are going to assert that there is such a thing as “intellectual property” (you can guess how I feel about that) then of course people are within their rights to protect their intellectual property as much as any corporation is. It’s a two-edged sword.
Any government involvement in anything is fundamentally communist. Why? The principle behind government and communism is the same: violence is a justifiable method to get your goals accomplished.
The only difference in practice is the extent to which people are willing to accept such an intrusion into their lives. For a communist government, it’s pervasive. You live and breathe by their rules. For everyone else there is usually a limit to what you are willing to accept.
If you think about it, politics arose because killing people to resolve differences is absolutely devastating to societies. Think of how much economic devastation WW2 caused, not to mention the human life lost. It was just a massive waste of resources on every level.
Politics is a way of avoiding war by limiting the violence through majority consent/submission to some kind of authority. We understood at some point that a king has no more authority than the average man, and so we went to republics. Now kings seem like a quaint notion from a more primitive time.
Hopefully one day we will come to understand the evil of imposing through force on one another, but until that day we use the tools that are available to us to resolve disputes.
I’m not a fan of governments in general but if I can’t resolve my issue through some amicable agreement with the other party, I’m sure as hell going to try the court system. I see it as the best humanity has been able to achieve so far.
I feel like I should say that I like the GPL. I think I've heard that argument from people who don't like it. I guess their reason could be it is forcing you to share your changes as GPL with the threat of government force (enforcement of the copyright license) which I guess they see as the usual redistribution by commies.
I don't agree with that because you are not required to use or modify the GPL software in the first place. I guess that is my argument against the statement "GPL license is communist in nature"
Yeah exactly. No one forces you to use GPL code, and if you don't use it then you are completely unaffected by it. They just want to have their cake and eat it too like everyone else.
Wow, one part of the open source community not yet completely consumed by this cancer of Identity Politics.
Only because it was a vote held among the developers as a group. It's easy for the woke to infiltrate a few key leadership positions (especially when technical prowess isn't required) but far more difficult to do so in a setting like this.
Debian does have a code of conduct which some used to try to censor Linus Torvalds himself. I would not be at all surprised to see a segment of Debian's "leadership" attempt to pull a half-KIA-style "thanks for your vote but we'll ignore it" on this issue.
I imagine most large corporations who pull woke shenanigans would have a similar outcome if they put it up to an anonymous cot of their employees rather shareholders
But please note that the vote was extremely close. The "no statement" option only beat this "further overhaul your governance" so contributors "feel safe" option by one vote.
Wish they'd gone with Option 5 or 6 instead, but better than most in the open source community.
Some of Stallman's comments made there are disgusting (the pedophilia and abortion comments), but what does that have to do with the FSF board? You can't deny he has earned his spot there considering all that he has done.
Wasn't the pedophilia comment about somebody accused of sexual relations with a 17 year old - i.e. somebody who is above the age of consent in most places?
yes. that's way too old for our marxist brothers and sisters.
30s+ roastie women are not getting their promised divorce-rape cuckcold reteriment plans and they are mad as hell. Looking at a fertile, attractive young women will be a crime sooner rather than later.
No the comment I'm referencing is this one,
I didn't hear about that one. Yeah, don't say that.
I remain partly convinced that all this shenanigans in the FSF is to enable more corporate control over it and open source software in general.
I agree, but marxist control more than corporate control. The usual suspects are increasing their influence in the software space. It used to be at corporations like Google, but it is extending into the open-source world now.
Some people argue that the FSF and the GPL license are already communist in nature. I don't think I have an argument against that. I don't think there is a "class struggle" though so I can see marxists wanting to add that.
I think that’s a dumb argument tbh. Think of it this way, if there was no government regulation enforcing “intellectual property ownership”, then this wouldn’t be an issue in the first place. If you are going to assert that there is such a thing as “intellectual property” (you can guess how I feel about that) then of course people are within their rights to protect their intellectual property as much as any corporation is. It’s a two-edged sword.
Any government involvement in anything is fundamentally communist. Why? The principle behind government and communism is the same: violence is a justifiable method to get your goals accomplished.
The only difference in practice is the extent to which people are willing to accept such an intrusion into their lives. For a communist government, it’s pervasive. You live and breathe by their rules. For everyone else there is usually a limit to what you are willing to accept.
If you think about it, politics arose because killing people to resolve differences is absolutely devastating to societies. Think of how much economic devastation WW2 caused, not to mention the human life lost. It was just a massive waste of resources on every level.
Politics is a way of avoiding war by limiting the violence through majority consent/submission to some kind of authority. We understood at some point that a king has no more authority than the average man, and so we went to republics. Now kings seem like a quaint notion from a more primitive time.
Hopefully one day we will come to understand the evil of imposing through force on one another, but until that day we use the tools that are available to us to resolve disputes.
I’m not a fan of governments in general but if I can’t resolve my issue through some amicable agreement with the other party, I’m sure as hell going to try the court system. I see it as the best humanity has been able to achieve so far.
I feel like I should say that I like the GPL. I think I've heard that argument from people who don't like it. I guess their reason could be it is forcing you to share your changes as GPL with the threat of government force (enforcement of the copyright license) which I guess they see as the usual redistribution by commies.
I don't agree with that because you are not required to use or modify the GPL software in the first place. I guess that is my argument against the statement "GPL license is communist in nature"
Yeah exactly. No one forces you to use GPL code, and if you don't use it then you are completely unaffected by it. They just want to have their cake and eat it too like everyone else.
But if the baby was already aborted does it even count as pedophilia?