It was inevitable. As a meta point, I saw too many comments basically on that subreddit supporting "radical feminism" or "feminism" that is not "liberal feminism".
Sorry, I don't fuck with that. TheImpossible1 doesn't always get it on the money with his examples or commentary, but as a general movement not reliant on anecdotes, it is anti-men and no amount of caveats will change that.
Let the TERFs and "super liberals" eat each other.
Yeah, I was calling that out on their sub. From the moment the SS movement started gaining traction, you had feminists jockeying to put women at the focal point of the whole thing. If SS reemerges on another platform then they need to guard against that.
TheImpossible1 doesn't always get it on the money with his examples or commentary
I had this thought to when thinking about the S+ sub.
Why?
too many comments basically on that subreddit supporting "radical feminism" or "feminism" that is not "liberal feminism".
In addition to that it was following the same old patterns normie groups go with regarding expectations towards sex. They had a pinned post about raising money for rape survivors. Female only, ofc. The comments were eating it up, praising how "woke" they were with zero self reflection they were just doing the same exclusionary patterns as the ctrl-left re: men.
Every time the sub brought up anything regarding sex it was again also explicitly for/pro women only except in the cases where zero effort virtue signaling could be made about being S+ men.
Because I am/was probably the most known sane person both here and Reddit for going after TERFs. I had the top comment on a Reddit announcement for a while with my archive of them calling for gender selective abortions.
No, I just think that their hideous cult needs to be crushed, lest they get to position themselves as a solution to a problem feminism created in the first place by pretending to be sane.
I didn't downvote you, but the subreddit had nothing to do with race. I never saw anything about that during my time. Whatever your thoughts are on interracial relationships or media agenda, it's an easy way for a subreddit to be banned. If anyone wants to oppose that, Reddit is 100% the wrong platform. Even as parody, it'll be shutdown super quick -- there's not much twisting you can do on the topic.
The whole biological sex-based semi-parody focus was doomed for failure too, of course, because even if that was allowed, there were a lot of comments while I was browsing on /new/ that explicitly stated that trans men and women are not men and women. That assertion of gender is definitely not allowed on Reddit. It's why the subreddit creators went out of their way to say that trans mxn and womxn are mxn and womxn (or something along those lines).
Maybe they'll successfully contest the ban, but the community was waaay too active for there not to be "hateful comments" (hate as defined by Reddit, of course), and there was visible TERF activity as has been acknowledged in multiple places -- including 1 of TheDonald threads covering the ban -- so I don't expect any permanence since liberal Reddit admins need nebulous excuses to get rid of what they don't like.
Lastly: having this (super straight) sort of content on places like the WIN platform is completely pointless. It HAS to be on Plebbit or other mainstream media, pushing their own rhetoric against them.
Yep - that age-old dilemma. You stay on reddit, you play by their rules. You leave reddit, you lose 95% of your outreach. You're right about that, for sure.
My point is that the people supposedly fighting the left with their own language, were in fact fully embracing identity politics ("I'm a black female superbi"), and not just pretending to for the purpose of ridiculing it. Meanwhile they were having a fit over some nebulous white supremacy scare. I wholeheartedly support gradually waking up the left, but let's not pretend these people don't mostly align with the opinions of a typical redditor.
fully embracing identity politics ("I'm a black female superbi")
Ah, I see. Good point. Another user also pointed out:
They had a pinned post about raising money for rape survivors. Female only, ofc. The comments were eating it up, praising how "woke" they were with zero self reflection they were just doing the same exclusionary patterns as the ctrl-left re: men.
I don't recall seeing that, maybe I missed it or it was put up after I last browsed it, but tons of red flags all over the place.
Would have been nice if it just stuck to the satire.
My point is that the people supposedly fighting the left with their own language, were in fact fully embracing identity politics ("I'm a black female superbi"),
That's actually a great way to combat leftist identity politics.
I respectfully disagree. For a super "straight" club, it had a lot of lesbians coming out of the wood works. A lot. There were a fair share of 'LGBT guys' too, but the lesbians were a very large group.
And, coincidentally, people unironically went out of their way to distinguish 'good' feminism from the 'bad'. When these comments were being made, the only satire being bandied about was rape and how 'heteronormativity' is a minority.
As a whole, I agree, most 'normal' Plebbitors went sight-seeing for the novelty. But the subreddit was clearly getting astro-turfed, and I think even harder after I last visited it.
Worse halves is a good phrase, but crow-barred here.
The comments were where you're - probably intentionally - being overly flippant, underscoring "X done by women" is bad because they're women, when you should be seeking out a behavioral or societal pattern and underscoring that, and ignoring all the other fluff.
Stuff like how the Wuhan Flu happened and it's women who are the most oppressed is great. Classics like unfairness of divorce proceedings, prison sentence disparity (including pedophilia), employer-based affirmative action despite them being basically half the fucking population, bad-faith equal pay arguments, etc.? Also great.
There were a few really scathing comments made by other posters on the fraud that is feminism; unfortunately I didn't save them so I'd have to dig thorough old threads to find them but they were extremely effective to any non-completely brainwashed audience. Your reviving that TERF rad-fem shit? Brilliant, fits along those lines perfectly.
There should be a pretty blatant connection from the example to the ugliness of the man-hating agenda that is feminism. If you see Antonio arguing with you, chances are you've left too many holes in your argument, intentionally or otherwise, which is no good. I'd stay away from that or present an iron-clad case.
It was inevitable. As a meta point, I saw too many comments basically on that subreddit supporting "radical feminism" or "feminism" that is not "liberal feminism".
Sorry, I don't fuck with that. TheImpossible1 doesn't always get it on the money with his examples or commentary, but as a general movement not reliant on anecdotes, it is anti-men and no amount of caveats will change that.
Let the TERFs and "super liberals" eat each other.
Yeah, I was calling that out on their sub. From the moment the SS movement started gaining traction, you had feminists jockeying to put women at the focal point of the whole thing. If SS reemerges on another platform then they need to guard against that.
I had this thought to when thinking about the S+ sub.
Why?
In addition to that it was following the same old patterns normie groups go with regarding expectations towards sex. They had a pinned post about raising money for rape survivors. Female only, ofc. The comments were eating it up, praising how "woke" they were with zero self reflection they were just doing the same exclusionary patterns as the ctrl-left re: men.
Every time the sub brought up anything regarding sex it was again also explicitly for/pro women only except in the cases where zero effort virtue signaling could be made about being S+ men.
Anything with actual effort however... ?
Fastest unsub I've ever made.
Because I am/was probably the most known sane person both here and Reddit for going after TERFs. I had the top comment on a Reddit announcement for a while with my archive of them calling for gender selective abortions.
Then what are the others like?!?!?!
Are you considering emasculating yourself or something, that you whine about hideous troons being 'excluded'?
Mostly Trans "rights" Activists.
No, I just think that their hideous cult needs to be crushed, lest they get to position themselves as a solution to a problem feminism created in the first place by pretending to be sane.
We need them to eat each other faster, so chuming the waters with these trolls can't hurt. ACCELERATE!
there was plenty to hate there before the TERFs. just look at this shit. the whole place was very pozzed.
I didn't downvote you, but the subreddit had nothing to do with race. I never saw anything about that during my time. Whatever your thoughts are on interracial relationships or media agenda, it's an easy way for a subreddit to be banned. If anyone wants to oppose that, Reddit is 100% the wrong platform. Even as parody, it'll be shutdown super quick -- there's not much twisting you can do on the topic.
The whole biological sex-based semi-parody focus was doomed for failure too, of course, because even if that was allowed, there were a lot of comments while I was browsing on /new/ that explicitly stated that trans men and women are not men and women. That assertion of gender is definitely not allowed on Reddit. It's why the subreddit creators went out of their way to say that trans mxn and womxn are mxn and womxn (or something along those lines).
Maybe they'll successfully contest the ban, but the community was waaay too active for there not to be "hateful comments" (hate as defined by Reddit, of course), and there was visible TERF activity as has been acknowledged in multiple places -- including 1 of TheDonald threads covering the ban -- so I don't expect any permanence since liberal Reddit admins need nebulous excuses to get rid of what they don't like.
Lastly: having this (super straight) sort of content on places like the WIN platform is completely pointless. It HAS to be on Plebbit or other mainstream media, pushing their own rhetoric against them.
Yep - that age-old dilemma. You stay on reddit, you play by their rules. You leave reddit, you lose 95% of your outreach. You're right about that, for sure.
My point is that the people supposedly fighting the left with their own language, were in fact fully embracing identity politics ("I'm a black female superbi"), and not just pretending to for the purpose of ridiculing it. Meanwhile they were having a fit over some nebulous white supremacy scare. I wholeheartedly support gradually waking up the left, but let's not pretend these people don't mostly align with the opinions of a typical redditor.
Ah, I see. Good point. Another user also pointed out:
I don't recall seeing that, maybe I missed it or it was put up after I last browsed it, but tons of red flags all over the place.
Would have been nice if it just stuck to the satire.
That's actually a great way to combat leftist identity politics.
I respectfully disagree. For a super "straight" club, it had a lot of lesbians coming out of the wood works. A lot. There were a fair share of 'LGBT guys' too, but the lesbians were a very large group.
And, coincidentally, people unironically went out of their way to distinguish 'good' feminism from the 'bad'. When these comments were being made, the only satire being bandied about was rape and how 'heteronormativity' is a minority.
As a whole, I agree, most 'normal' Plebbitors went sight-seeing for the novelty. But the subreddit was clearly getting astro-turfed, and I think even harder after I last visited it.
Out of curiosity, what did I get wrong, in your opinion?
Pretty sure they were comments, but you have too many to dig through. Here are a few example posts, skimming your history:
Worse halves is a good phrase, but crow-barred here.
The comments were where you're - probably intentionally - being overly flippant, underscoring "X done by women" is bad because they're women, when you should be seeking out a behavioral or societal pattern and underscoring that, and ignoring all the other fluff.
Stuff like how the Wuhan Flu happened and it's women who are the most oppressed is great. Classics like unfairness of divorce proceedings, prison sentence disparity (including pedophilia), employer-based affirmative action despite them being basically half the fucking population, bad-faith equal pay arguments, etc.? Also great.
There were a few really scathing comments made by other posters on the fraud that is feminism; unfortunately I didn't save them so I'd have to dig thorough old threads to find them but they were extremely effective to any non-completely brainwashed audience. Your reviving that TERF rad-fem shit? Brilliant, fits along those lines perfectly.
There should be a pretty blatant connection from the example to the ugliness of the man-hating agenda that is feminism. If you see Antonio arguing with you, chances are you've left too many holes in your argument, intentionally or otherwise, which is no good. I'd stay away from that or present an iron-clad case.